Cardinals @ Lions postgame thread

[MaoTosiFanClub]

Fake news. We’re 2-1 with Colt McCoy starting.

Kyler limits what Kliff can do and (probably) vice versa.

I prefer to go off the 35 game sample size vs 3. Kliff is not a winning coach. Never has been nor will be.

 

[DVontel]

Do we have a single DLineman that would even get 2nd string snaps on other teams let alone playoff contenders?

 

[MaoTosiFanClub]

Another late season collapse is staring team right in face again. Not sure what is going on with K1 but Saturday might be the biggest game of his football life. Got a huge monkey on his back along with K2 that is only going to get worse.

Agree here. Put up or shut up time for these two.

 

[Dr. Jones]

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[82CardsGrad]

Do we have a single DLineman that would even get 2nd string snaps on other teams let alone playoff contenders?

LOL... when truth is staring you right in the face, you continue to turn the other way. Kliffy and Kyler are the source of the problems and the reasons why, in back to back seasons now, this team pukes all over itself. But yea... if only we had a decent d-lineman...

 

[kerouac9]

I prefer to go off the 35 game sample size vs 3. Kliff is not a winning coach. Never has been nor will be.

Look, I think Kliff is the 4th-best coach in the division. But it’s not fair to say that we’re 0-16 without Kyler when we went 2-1 with maybe the 40th best QB in the NFL.

Kyler is not a winning QB either. Ran from A&M and crashed and burned at Oklahoma. Let me know when he wins a big game since high school.

 

[PJ1]

One of the biggest losses for this team as a franchise. Getting killed on thanksgiving by the Dolphins with Dobler going crazy hurt like hell. The loss to the Redskins due to a bogus roughing the passer call on EJ Junior was also a killer. But they were losses to good teams. This is a disgrace. Made worse coming off a disgraceful loss on Monday night. Pissed off to no end.

 

[DVontel]

LOL... when truth is staring you right in the face, your continue to turn the other way. Kliffy and Kyler are the source of the problems and the reasons why, in back to back seasons now, this team pukes all over itself. But yea... if only we had a decent d-lineman...

Kyler & Kliff are the sole reasons the D-Linemen are getting bodied on every snap? Chandler being a ghost during a contract year?

I slandered both of them to start off. Unless you can’t comprehend, it seems personal between you & them. Real personal.

 

[dscher]

Kyler limits what Kliff can do and (probably) vice versa.

If that's true then the onus ultimately falls on KK since he was hired to maximize kylers potential. Not limit it. Even if the vice versa aspect is real.

 

[Frank The Fixer]

I hate being pessimistic but why can’t this team draft a player in the first round who is capable of contributing immediately.
And yes D’Vontel they should have drafted Wirfs.

 

[MaoTosiFanClub]

Look, I think Kliff is the 4th-best coach in the division. But it’s not fair to say that we’re 0-16 without Kyler when we went 2-1 with maybe the 40th best QB in the NFL.

Kyler is not a winning QB either. Ran from A&M and crashed and burned at Oklahoma. Let me know when he wins a big game since high school.

Played one year at Oklahoma and won the Heisman. Made the CFP and lost to Alabama. Crashed and burned?

Insert Colt and take away Kyler we go 4-13.

 

[DVontel]

Look, I think Kliff is the 4th-best coach in the division. But it’s not fair to say that we’re 0-16 without Kyler when we went 2-1 with maybe the 40th best QB in the NFL.

Kyler is not a winning QB either. Ran from A&M and crashed and burned at Oklahoma. Let me know when he wins a big game since high school.

Running from a Kevin Sumlin coached team was smart. You can say he’s not a winning QB, but holding that A&M transfer against him is not the hill to stand on.

 

[Dr. Jones]

One of the biggest losses for this team as a franchise. Getting killed on thanksgiving by the Dolphins with Dobler going crazy hurt like hell. The loss to the Redskins due to a bogus roughing the passer call on EJ Junior was also a killer. But they were losses to good teams. This is a disgrace. Made worse coming off a disgraceful loss on Monday night. Pissed off to no end.

You missed MFN against the Bears and the 49-0 drubbing on Thanksgiving.

 

[Crimson Warrior]

Look, I think Kliff is the 4th-best coach in the division. But it’s not fair to say that we’re 0-16 without Kyler when we went 2-1 with maybe the 40th best QB in the NFL.

Kyler is not a winning QB either. Ran from A&M and crashed and burned at Oklahoma. Let me know when he wins a big game since high school.

Lol at "crashed and burned at Oklahoma". Heisman trophy winner. Big XII championship. Lost his last game at OU though. By 11.

But yeah. K1's stock is freefall right now. Not defending his play today in any way shape or form.

 

[MaoTosiFanClub]

LOL... when truth is staring you right in the face, you continue to turn the other way. Kliffy and Kyler are the source of the problems and the reasons why, in back to back seasons now, this team pukes all over itself. But yea... if only we had a decent d-lineman...

Kyler and Kliff were garbage today but he’s not wrong on Dline issues.

 

[Dr. Jones]

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[PJ1]

You missed MFN against the Bears and the 49-0 drubbing on Thanksgiving.

Bad losses for sure but we were a contender in the losses I reference. And we were 10-3 going into this game vs a 1-11-1 team. It ranks up there for sure.

 

[ajcardfan]

Look, I think Kliff is the 4th-best coach in the division. But it’s not fair to say that we’re 0-16 without Kyler when we went 2-1 with maybe the 40th best QB in the NFL.

Kyler is not a winning QB either. Ran from A&M and crashed and burned at Oklahoma. Let me know when he wins a big game since high school.

I know Aggies football extremely well. Kyle Allen transferred also in the same year. I promise you, you have no clue what you are talking about with that transfer.

 

[Cheesebeef]

Kyler and Kliff were garbage today but he’s not wrong on Dline issues.

Yup.

hers my question next season also: are we going to pay JJ Watt another 15 million bucks to stand on the sidelines for eight games when that money could be used to actually boost the o or d lines?

or was that contract structured to somehow be a 30 million dollar cap hit if we cut Mr. Glass?

 

[Crimson Warrior]

Check this out guys..

Chase was 6 for 53. 8.8 per carry.

Conner 8 for 39 4.9 per carry.


But we threw it 50 times, while our RB 1 and RB2 ran it 14 times.

 

[mjb21aztd]

This team will be one and done after backing into the playoffs. Unfortunate but true.

Yup like the derek anderson gm....

Im soooo sad tod lol had more faith in cards.

 

[Shane]

I am wondering why Simmons had not made a similar impact as Parsons. Is it more on the player or the Coach?

Simmons and Parsons are basically identical person measurement and athleticism wise (all data is from nflcombineresults.com):
6'3 5/8", 238 lbs, 33 3/8" arm, 9 5/8" hands, 4.39 40-yard, 2.58 20-yard, 1.55 10-yard, 39" vertical, 11'0" broad jump (Simmons) vs
6'3 1/8", 246 lbs, 31 1/2" arm, 11" hands, 4.36 40-yard, 2.58 20-yard, 1.59 10-yard, 34" vertical, 10'6" broad jump (Parsons).

Both won multiple awards for their performance in college. Simmons was put in a much bigger stage and has seen more adversities (4 straight years appearance in the NCAA national championship games and won two times).

This is silly. They are two completely different players. Smh

 

[ajcardfan]

Kyler & Kliff are the sole reasons the D-Linemen are getting bodied on every snap? Chandler being a ghost during a contract year?

I slandered both of them to start off. Unless you can’t comprehend, it seems personal between you & them. Real personal.

The guards and the center played atrociously as well.

 

[mjb21aztd]

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Cards love makin wrong kind of history lol

 

[Crimson Warrior]

How about three roughing the passer penalties against us today?

All three of them pretty weak calls too. Officials roasted us.