Gabbert had more starts and better passing stats as a 21 year old rookie than Stanton has in his entire career at age 32.I believe he is better than Stanton. Stanton is done. But, he will be there because he is one of BA's BFFs for some reason.
Gabbert had more starts and better passing stats as a 21 year old rookie than Stanton has in his entire career at age 32.I believe he is better than Stanton. Stanton is done. But, he will be there because he is one of BA's BFFs for some reason.
Gabbert can play any style asked of him. He was the top rated pro style recruit but went to a shotgun offense at Mizzou. Physical clone of Carson Palmer with better athleticism. Pocket passer in Jax, but when 9ers asked him to run more, he was leading QB rusher in league when Chip Kelly sat him for Kaepernick show the world that he was not "racist" after all. (Once the 9ers were effectively out of playoff contention). Blaine also had several of the fastest field times recorded for QBs during 2015 and 2016. Maybe all of them.Based on the one-year $885K contract, seems like a low risk, medium ceiling situation here. I just remember the guy has pretty good speed for a QB (ran a sub 4.6 time, in comparison Kaep ran a high 4.5). I also remember seeing him scramble pretty well against us in the games last year. Accuracy is the biggest killer which more than likely can't be fixed. But hey, why throw when you can run for your life, or just hand the rock to DJ =) This likely signals that at least the coaching staff is evaluating mobile QBs and not just the statue-esque pocket passer a la Palmer. Worst case scenario is that we just covered our bases for a backup for this year.
I think the tradeoff was short term deal at Gabbert's request so he would be in better position to win a starting job next year somewhere, in exchange for less money. If he signed a longer term deal he probably could have gotten the same money he did last year. Blaine beat all of the top rated QBs from the 2017 draft in every Combine category except short shuttle, and he's bigger than any of them as well. Plus he near doubled their Wonderlic scores.What's not to like? Try him on for size for pennies. P
I'm not reading a lot of "optimism" but rather a whole lot of "why not give it a twirl?"The optimism in here is absolutely insane. I like that there is no financial risk and Gabbert may turn into our long-term backup QB. But come on, his accuracy has always been bad and got worse the further he had to throw the ball downfield.
I'm not reading a lot of "optimism" but rather a whole lot of "why not give it a twirl?"
The staggering hate for Stanton on this board makes me laugh.
I'm happy to see the Cardinals make the best of an awful situation by trying to fix someone who once might have seemed to have it, but Stanton is going nowhere.
I'm not reading a lot of "optimism" but rather a whole lot of "why not give it a twirl?"
Lindley was the worst quarterback I've ever seen in the NFL. You can only be betterExactly, unlike a lot of the other QBs we have picked up, at least Gabbert has first round traits which a coach can work with. His accuracy is still a hell of a lot better than Lindley or Logan Thomas... he does have a chance to at least be our number two
What has Stanton done to deserve immunity? He has a 53% completion rate, 66 passer rating, and more Ints than Tds for his career. 13 career starts at age 33. He played on much better teams than Gabbert did, and had years to learn systems before he had to take the field.
What has Stanton done to deserve immunity? He has a 53% completion rate, 66 passer rating, and more Ints than Tds for his career. 13 career starts at age 33. He played on much better teams than Gabbert did, and had years to learn systems before he had to take the field.
Lindley was the worst quarterback I've ever seen in the NFL. You can only be better
Stanton would have to be considerably better than Gabbert to hold a spot ahead of him, since Drew is 6 years older, a lot more expensive, and has no upside at the position. Those are the cold, hard facts.Well, Stanton has won I believe over half his games when called upon regardless of the situation and knows the offense already so as a vet that holds values, though I am intrigued with giving Gabbert a chance because he was a solid prospect coming out. My question for you regarding Gabbert is did you attend Missouri or are you a family relative considering your passion for the guy...You must be registered for see images attach
Based on the one-year $885K contract, seems like a low risk, medium ceiling situation here. I just remember the guy has pretty good speed for a QB (ran a sub 4.6 time, in comparison Kaep ran a high 4.5). I also remember seeing him scramble pretty well against us in the games last year. Accuracy is the biggest killer which more than likely can't be fixed. But hey, why throw when you can run for your life, or just hand the rock to DJ =) This likely signals that at least the coaching staff is evaluating mobile QBs and not just the statue-esque pocket passer a la Palmer. Worst case scenario is that we just covered our bases for a backup for this year.
Stanton would have to be considerably better than Gabbert to hold a spot ahead of him, since Drew is 6 years older, a lot more expensive, and has no upside at the position. Those are the cold, hard facts.
Having a new HC and OC every year doesn't help
So true. Even the best QBs needed a couple of years in a system to really flourish. Palmer sat on the bench for a year after being drafted first overall by Cincy. He was 25 before he became a starter I think. Aaron Rodgers sat for 3 years. Peyton Manning was crap his first season. Brady sat for a year and game managed for a couple after that. Gabbert was thrown into the fire at 21 (youngest player in history of the league to start 14 games) without even the benefit of training camp on a team in disarray. His second season he was doing well, with better passer rating than Newton, Luck, Tannehill, Bradford, Stafford, Cutler, etc. at the time he suffered nerve damage in his throwing arm. He couldn't throw until next season training camp, then broke a thumb in camp. Started season with broken thumb, then suffered a deep laceration on his throwing hand, started a couple more then had a hammy pull. By the time he was healthy, the Jags were 1-8 or something, so new staff tanked to get a top pick and went with Chad Henne. In San Fran he arrived just as they gave Kaepernick a big contract, so he had to wait for a year before Kap stunk things up when the team started to fall apart around him. Was much better than Kaepernick on a very bad team in 2015. Then another new staff, with Chip Kelly's junk offense to run. Gabbert mastered it, but the receivers were running wrong routes, RB lining up in wrong spots, etc. and things fell apart. With nothing to lose Kelly decided to get rid of his "racist" label by pandering to Kaepernick while looking forward to a high draft pick. The 9ers scored more points per game and had a better winning percentage with Gabbert than they did with Kap over the two years they split the starts. There was also an internal power battle going on between Kelly and Baalke at that point. Baalke liked Gabbert and wanted to get rid of Kaepernick in the worst way, but Kelly had control over the game roster. So he stuck Kap in to make Trent look bad and try to get him fired so his buddy Tom Gamble could take over as G.M. Jed York finally got tired of all the nonsense and fired them both at the end of the year. No quarterback with the talent of Gabbert has had the same obstacles to overcome in his career. He has the best natural tool set for the position of anyone I've seen come out of college in the past dozen years. It would be a shame if he never got onto a level playing field to get a chance to show them.Having a new HC and OC every year doesn't help
Yikes ok your related to him lolSo true. Even the best QBs needed a couple of years in a system to really flourish. Palmer sat on the bench for a year after being drafted first overall by Cincy. He was 25 before he became a starter I think. Aaron Rodgers sat for 3 years. Peyton Manning was crap his first season. Brady sat for a year and game managed for a couple after that. Gabbert was thrown into the fire at 21 (youngest player in history of the league to start 14 games) without even the benefit of training camp on a team in disarray. His second season he was doing well, with better passer rating than Newton, Luck, Tannehill, Bradford, Stafford, Cutler, etc. at the time he suffered nerve damage in his throwing arm. He couldn't throw until next season training camp, then broke a thumb in camp. Started season with broken thumb, then suffered a deep laceration on his throwing hand, started a couple more then had a hammy pull. By the time he was healthy, the Jags were 1-8 or something, so new staff tanked to get a top pick and went with Chad Henne. In San Fran he arrived just as they gave Kaepernick a big contract, so he had to wait for a year before Kap stunk things up when the team started to fall apart around him. Was much better than Kaepernick on a very bad team in 2015. Then another new staff, with Chip Kelly's junk offense to run. Gabbert mastered it, but the receivers were running wrong routes, RB lining up in wrong spots, etc. and things fell apart. With nothing to lose Kelly decided to get rid of his "racist" label by pandering to Kaepernick while looking forward to a high draft pick. The 9ers scored more points per game and had a better winning percentage with Gabbert than they did with Kap over the two years they split the starts. There was also an internal power battle going on between Kelly and Baalke at that point. Baalke liked Gabbert and wanted to get rid of Kaepernick in the worst way, but Kelly had control over the game roster. So he stuck Kap in to make Trent look bad and try to get him fired so his buddy Tom Gamble could take over as G.M. Jed York finally got tired of all the nonsense and fired them both at the end of the year. No quarterback with the talent of Gabbert has had the same obstacles to overcome in his career. He has the best natural tool set for the position of anyone I've seen come out of college in the past dozen years. It would be a shame if he never got onto a level playing field to get a chance to show them.