Cardinals need to try their hand at another QB

[azsouthendzone]

Whisenhunt's patience with Anderson hasn't expired yet, and surely there's some ego involved. Unlike Leinart, this is the quarterback he selected. But Whisenhunt also is extremely lucky that a Rams defensive player forgot to secure the football a few steps from the end zone, and that a powerful kicker missed as many field goals in Sunday's game as he did all of last season.

In the end, he's lucky the Cardinals aren't winless, just like that fractured team in San Francisco. And that's precisely why it's the perfect time to hand the ball to Hall. With two victories in pocket, the Cardinals don't have to win another game until they play Seattle after the bye week. This would be a pre-emptive strike, and really, could the backup be any worse than the incumbent?

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[NashDishesDimes]

I think the entire planets population can agree with this article

 

[john h]

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We are 2-1. What if the coach changes QB's and we lose? He would look like an idiot. Until our QB loses it makes no difference how bad he plays as long as we win.

The Bears were supposed to be terrible this year with used QB. Now they are 3.0 with a former bad QB.

 

[seesred]

Cutler is very much like DA. DA sad to say doesn't play as well as Cutler. Six of one 1/2 dozen of another. I do think DA has more upside if he can figure it out. He did throw some nice passes Sunday. The one to Breaston and the TD to Fitz. That being said if he plays like this to the bye week it might mean goodby.

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[Derm]

there's already a mega-thread started on this subject...

 

[desertdawg]

Crazy talk, dot com. Cutler is nothing like DA. Wow, some times I just have to laugh.

 

[dogpoo32]

Cutler has his faults, and I personally do not like him, but comparing him to Derek Anderson is an insult.

 

[D-Dogg]

We are 2-1. What if the coach changes QB's and we lose? He would look like an idiot. Until our QB loses it makes no difference how bad he plays as long as we win.

The Bears were supposed to be terrible this year with used QB. Now they are 3.0 with a former bad QB.

Which is why I think, barring the light coming on for DA in the next two weeks, that we'll see Hall after the bye week.

We are on a collision course with 2-3 at that point. I dont think we are beating the Saints (bad matchups with too many weapons to cover) and the Chargers are going to be on their best game after losing to Seattle.

 

[LoyaltyisaCurse]

Cutler has his faults, and I personally do not like him, but comparing him to Derek Anderson is an insult.

Agreed...Cutler occaissonally puts too much mustard on his passed like DA, but he makes throws DA could never make...

 

[desertdawg]

I would love to see Hall on the field after the bye. I don't know if he is the answer, only one way to tell. He knows the plays and acts like Whiz's PR rep. Hall sticks up for Whiz in a interview the other night like I have never seen. I can already see the man love is there.

 

[football karma]

for this year -- Max Hall's upside is no better than what Anderson can do for the team, and his downside is much worse.

to expect anything more is wishful thinking.

Here is the reality everyone needs to face:

DA is the Qb this season. There are no better alternatives out there for the team this year -- not Jeff Garcia, not Kevin Kolb, not Trent Edwards, especially not Matt Leinart -- and in all likelihood, not Max Hall.

Doesn't mean DA is the QB for the long haul -- but this year, he is the only option.

As a fan, a realistic hope for DA is that with a combination of putting in the throws he is comfortable with, better familiarity with the offense, better timing with WRs, and better offensive line play -- he can get up to 58% completion and run a competent but not spectacular offense.

 

[chickenhead]

Agree (with everyone) - if we see Hall it'll be after the bye. Not on the road in San Diego, and probably not against the Saints unless Anderson is putrid this weekend.

I don't think Whiz is too stubborn to change since DA is "his guy" because he wasn't too stubborn to bench and cut Leinart despite the bad press (while saying little about it publicly). And with Reid replacing Kolb with Vick with Kolb with Vick, plus Buffalo cutting Edwards...it's a wild year for QBs already.

 

[82CardsGrad]

Which is why I think, barring the light coming on for DA in the next two weeks, that we'll see Hall after the bye week.

We are on a collision course with 2-3 at that point. I dont think we are beating the Saints (bad matchups with too many weapons to cover) and the Chargers are going to be on their best game after losing to Seattle.

We'll be lucky to keep the Saints game within a 2 TD margin... However, the Chargers game is very, very winnable. They have serious issues throughout that team. No RB and no WR's is a big part of their problems... Gates will pose a major problem for us as all good pass-catching TE's do. And of course, we will need more of the good DA versus the bad DA, and a ton more of the good Beanie, good o-line and good d-line in order to win the game. But, if you told me next Monday the Cards were 3 & 1 coming off a 24-17 win @ San Diego, I really wouldn't be too surprised at all...

 

[Russ Smith]

We'll be lucky to keep the Saints game within a 2 TD margin... However, the Chargers game is very, very winnable. They have serious issues throughout that team. No RB and no WR's is a big part of their problems... Gates will pose a major problem for us as all good pass-catching TE's do. And of course, we will need more of the good DA versus the bad DA, and a ton more of the good Beanie, good o-line and good d-line in order to win the game. But, if you told me next Monday the Cards were 3 & 1 coming off a 24-17 win @ San Diego, I really wouldn't be too surprised at all...

But they had 455 yards passing against Seattle. I agree other than Gates they don't have any big name guys to catch the ball, but they get it done somehow. If we don't rush Rivers any better than we did Gradkowski could be a long day.

I think we could win, I think SD has obvious holes on special teams and they have injury issues, but we'll have to play much better to win.

I won't be surprised if Hall ends up in mopup duty in both games and if he plays well, we consider the switch during the bye week.

 

[82CardsGrad]

But they had 455 yards passing against Seattle. I agree other than Gates they don't have any big name guys to catch the ball, but they get it done somehow. If we don't rush Rivers any better than we did Gradkowski could be a long day.

I think we could win, I think SD has obvious holes on special teams and they have injury issues, but we'll have to play much better to win.

I won't be surprised if Hall ends up in mopup duty in both games and if he plays well, we consider the switch during the bye week.

Yes - we need to play better... We haven't played well yet thru 3 games. I think the odds are in our favor that on both sides of the ball, we should see improved play. Or, perhaps this goes the complete opposite way and what we've seen thus far thru 3 games is the best this team can muster?? I think this coming Sunday will tell us a lot there.

 

[Doug]

We'll be lucky to keep the Saints game within a 2 TD margin... However, the Chargers game is very, very winnable. They have serious issues throughout that team. No RB and no WR's is a big part of their problems... Gates will pose a major problem for us as all good pass-catching TE's do. And of course, we will need more of the good DA versus the bad DA, and a ton more of the good Beanie, good o-line and good d-line in order to win the game. But, if you told me next Monday the Cards were 3 & 1 coming off a 24-17 win @ San Diego, I really wouldn't be too surprised at all...

You said it.Now tell me who we have who can cover GATES? No one as usual.Talented tight ends kill us unless "The Howler" can return two kickoffs and the chargers don't score when inside the 20 just going for TD's as they did at Qwest field. I see a Rivers comeback game.

DA must extend what he did in "JUST" the 3RD quarter to the whole game or we go to 500. .

 

[82CardsGrad]

You said it.Now tell me who we have who can cover GATES? No one as usual.Talented tight ends kill us unless "The Howler" can return two kickoffs and the chargers don't score when inside the 20 just going for TD's as they did at Qwest field. I see a Rivers comeback game.

DA must extend what he did in "JUST" the 3RD quarter to the whole game or we go to 500. .

It's not just on DA... our defense needs to find a way to apply pressure without a full-scale jail-break. Leaving Rivers to camp out in the pocket will not help our cause one bit. He and Gates will play pitch & catch all game long.

 

[Big D]

We'll be lucky to keep the Saints game within a 2 TD margin... However, the Chargers game is very, very winnable. They have serious issues throughout that team. No RB and no WR's is a big part of their problems... Gates will pose a major problem for us as all good pass-catching TE's do. And of course, we will need more of the good DA versus the bad DA, and a ton more of the good Beanie, good o-line and good d-line in order to win the game. But, if you told me next Monday the Cards were 3 & 1 coming off a 24-17 win @ San Diego, I really wouldn't be too surprised at all...

I think this SD game has blowout written all over it much like the ATL game did. It took a KO return for a TD and 3 missed FGs by Shankikowski to keep last week's game close. It's going to take a much bigger miracle than we got on Sunday to get a W in SD.

Put me down as one who believes we lose our next two games, badly, and then Hall is thrown into the fire after the bye. Whis will then act like this was his plan the whole time.

 

[Cbus cardsfan]

You said it.Now tell me who we have who can cover GATES? No one as usual.Talented tight ends kill us .

we have the re-incarnation of Larry Wilson on our team. He should be able to cover Gates.

 

[Shane]

He and Gates will play pitch & catch all game long.

They are going to do that no matter what. They do it agaisnt pretty much every team they face.

 

[Duckjake]

They are going to do that no matter what. They do it agaisnt pretty much every team they face.

Yeah, I'm more concerned that Mike Tolbert will have 185 yards of offense and 3 Touchdowns.

 

[82CardsGrad]

Yeah, I'm more concerned that Mike Tolbert will have 185 yards of offense and 3 Touchdowns.

Damn we excel at doing that...

 

[PJ1]

for this year -- Max Hall's upside is no better than what Anderson can do for the team, and his downside is much worse.

to expect anything more is wishful thinking.

Here is the reality everyone needs to face:

DA is the Qb this season. There are no better alternatives out there for the team this year -- not Jeff Garcia, not Kevin Kolb, not Trent Edwards, especially not Matt Leinart -- and in all likelihood, not Max Hall.

Doesn't mean DA is the QB for the long haul -- but this year, he is the only option.

As a fan, a realistic hope for DA is that with a combination of putting in the throws he is comfortable with, better familiarity with the offense, better timing with WRs, and better offensive line play -- he can get up to 58% completion and run a competent but not spectacular offense.

No, actually he can't. That is the reality you need to face. He is what he is and we will not beat a good team with him at QB. How do you know Max Hall's upside is no better than Anderson's? As for his downside being worse I don't believe that is possible.

 

[desertdawg]

No, actually he can't. That is the reality you need to face. He is what he is and we will not beat a good team with him at QB. How do you know Max Hall's upside is no better than Anderson's? As for his downside being worse I don't believe that is possible.

Golf clap ensues.

 

[CardLogic]

I think the entire planets population can agree with this article

I think the entire planet's population can agree that it's good that Ken Whisenhunt is coaching the Cardinals, rather than you or Bickley.