Cardinals | Team in Law hunt?

[joeshmo]

Are roster bonuses really garaunteed? If he isn't on the roster, he doesn't get the bonus, so how is it garaunteed. I thought only signing bonuses are garaunteed.

They arent in the real world gauranteed but when the media releases contract info they call it gauranteed. For example they said that Fitz had over 20 Mill in gauranteed money when in fact his signing bonus was really only about 10+ Mill.

So for cap purposes you are correct but by media standards that isnt correct and the media released that Law wants 10 Mill gauranteed which tells me he will expect part of that in roster bonuses.

 

[Bobcat]

It would be a great move on the part of the Cardinals; even if they don't get him signed it is quite a ballzy move on their part. It does show that the Bidwills are really in this league to finally win, and stoping to be the doormate they once were.

Bobcat

 

[CardLogic]

Couldn't reach him...

He is out on the golf course covering the Dorsett Charity tournament. Now there's a tough job!!!

Well, my friend Mike Bires just called back...

He didn't really have any more news than what we have already heard. Told me he is being swamped today by national media figures wanting to confirm his scoop, re: Ty Law.

Turns out that Mike was talking to Ty Law's friend and golf partner for the tournament at the reception dinner the night before the start of the tourney, which is how he found out that Law wouldn't be attending. Of course, he asked why Law wouldn't make it and the friend replied that Law's agent had called him to tell him that they were in the middle of negotiations with New England and Arizona.

 

[joeshmo]

I am leaving for lunch so to be continued.

Now since te rookies are not signed yet we have the money right now to work with and make cap moves later on.

For example we can sign him now then make cuts(Hodgins, Shipp, and so on) or restructure Davis later to gain the money needed to sign the rookies. We have a month to work out those details if need be.

 

[SuperSpck]

Well, my friend Mike Bires just called back...

I wish I had friends who had valuable Cardinal-related information.
Mine just drink my beverages and use my internet bandwidth to look up illicit adult material.

 

[joeshmo]

I say this is just the Postons just working the market. I think they are the closest with the Pats and since they probably burned their bridges with the Chiefs and whom ever else they have contacted we are the only team left that can give them leverage on a contract.

But I like the idea that the Cards Brass dont feel content to stop upgrading this late in the game yet and are willing to sign vets to noce sized contracts still.

 

[Cardiac]

I wish I had friends who had valuable Cardinal-related information.
Mine just drink my beverages and use my internet bandwidth to look up illicit adult material.

To be expected if you have all those sites in your favorites tab.



Ty Law would be a huge signing, not as big as Edge but huge. I know some have theorized about Rolle playing FS and this may be a chance to try it. Think about his knee injury and how not having to be in one on one coverage would be a positive. Straight line speed usually comes back before cutting ability etc. in regards to knee injuries. Plus Rolle has an incredible knack for making plays when he can see the field and is not focused on a single WR.

Macklin, Law and Rolle are all very good at forcing the run so Pendy could get creative with coverage packages and schemes.

Just the fact that we are in the mix is yet another huge sign that these aren't your father's Cardinals.

 

[SuperSpck]

To be expected if you have all those sites in your favorites tab.

Well there's that.

I'm not against the idea of Rolle playing S.
But I like him at CB so far just fine. It's an interesting point though.

 

[blindseyed]

I wish I had friends who had valuable Cardinal-related information.
Mine just drink my beverages and use my internet bandwidth to look up illicit adult material.

Sorry about that, bro, I really thought hot cheerleaders.com was a site about the struggles of Cardinal cheerleaders in the desert sun....

 

[Cardiac]

Well there's that.

I'm not against the idea of Rolle playing S.
But I like him at CB so far just fine. It's an interesting point though.

I agree that Rolle is / will be a quality starter at CB, mostly thinking about his injury and this year.

 

[SuperSpck]

Sorry about that, bro, I really thought hot cheerleaders.com was a site about the struggles of Cardinal cheerleaders in the desert sun....

Well yeah, that's why I book-marked it.
It's an emotional page turner.
And there are mammories.

 

[RedForeman]

I wish I had friends who had valuable Cardinal-related information.
Mine just drink my beverages and use my internet bandwidth to look up illicit adult material.

Now that's Iowa style!

 

[BigDavis75]

This would be a great move. I mean Ty Law wants money but he has always, alwaysw produced. He could play either CB or S and would give us a top 5 secondary in the league. I still think its unlikely but what an excellent addition if it were to happen.

 

[Trey]

Same rumor, from a different source:

Cardinals | Team indeed in the Law race
Tue, 6 Jun 2006 18:27:42 -0700
Adam Schefter, of the <A href="http://www.kffl.com/team/77/nfl">NFL Network, reports the Arizona Cardinals have put themselves into the race to sign free agent CB Ty Law (Jets). The Cardinals, Kansas City Chiefs and the New England Patriots are the leading contenders to sign Law, but another team could jump in on the situation. One potential hangup to the deal – Poston is preparing for surgery after recently rupturing his Achilles' tendon playing basketball.

Chiefs | Team making a last-second push for Law
Tue, 6 Jun 2006 18:24:57 -0700
Adam Schefter, of the <A href="http://www.kffl.com/team/77/nfl">NFL Network, reports the Kansas City Chiefs are making a last-second push to sign free agent CB Ty Law (Jets). The Chiefs contacted Law's agent, Carl Poston, weighing in with their newest thoughts on the issue. Poston envisions the process ending in a week to 10 days. The Chiefs, Arizona Cardinals and the New England Patriots are the leading contenders to sign Law, but another team could jump in on the situation. One potential hangup to the deal – Poston is preparing for surgery after recently rupturing his Achilles' tendon playing basketball.

 

[joeshmo]

One potential hangup to the deal – Poston is preparing for surgery after recently rupturing his Achilles' tendon playing basketball.

Which means we wont hear anything about it for another 2+ weeks.

Man this month is boring.

 

[ThunderCard]

Are roster bonuses really garaunteed? If he isn't on the roster, he doesn't get the bonus, so how is it garaunteed. I thought only signing bonuses are garaunteed.

Roster Bonuses are only guaranteed after each year so if you cut Ty Law in before the bonus date he would not count against the cap. He wants a 10 mil guaranteed bonus so I am thinking maybe go close and offer 8 on a 3-4 year contract. I believe Law will start going downhill in two years, but after two years he might make a GREAT Free Safety instead of corner !

Either way I will not be disappointed is we do not get Law....

 

[daytripper]

Old news!! Check the Ty Law thread from Feb 06

 

[joeshmo]

Old news!! Check the Ty Law thread from Feb 06

Old News?

What thread back in Feb. had news that we are talking to Law and one of the top 2 teams in competition for him?

 

[Ryanwb]

I'm very intersted to see how this turns out..... this certainly isn't "same old Cardinals" type of signing. I remember 5 or 6 years ago the other board getting all excited about the Tony McCoy signing. That just shows how far we have come in terms of personel

 

[ThunderCard]

This would be a great move. I mean Ty Law wants money but he has always, alwaysw produced. He could play either CB or S and would give us a top 5 secondary in the league. I still think its unlikely but what an excellent addition if it were to happen.

Led the league with 10 INT's last year. Even though he is 32 he could play at a Pro Bowl level at corner for another 2 years and still make the transitions to Free Safety. Reminds me a lot of Aneas Williams at the end of his carrer.

 

[ajcardfan]

Led the league with 10 INT's last year. Even though he is 32 he could play at a Pro Bowl level at corner for another 2 years and still make the transitions to Free Safety. Reminds me a lot of Aneas Williams at the end of his carrer.

Yeah, he's like the "anti-Tom Knight". Even with 1 and 1/2 legs, like he had last year, he still plays and makes plays on the ball.

 

[CardinalChris]

He has great ball skills, hence his ints were higher than his level of play. But he would strat from day one on this team. I do think the FS idea is smart, but you have to convince HIM of that before he signs.

Again, upgrade, but not the star you may have to pay him like.

 

[imaCafan]

Cardinals in pursuit of Law
By Darren Urban, Tribune
June 7, 2006
First came the addition of Edgerrin James, then the drafting of Matt Leinart. Could the signing of veteran Pro Bowl cornerback Ty Law punctuate the Cardinals’ stunning offseason?

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The Cards have talked to Law’s agents, but then, so have many teams. And that’s as far as either side is willing to go at this point.

“There have been some discussions but nothing is imminent,” Cardinals vice president of football operations Rod Graves said.

“A lot of teams are interested in Ty,” one of Law’s agents, Kevin Poston, said Tuesday. “But are they willing to do a deal with Ty?

“Beyond that, it’d be wrong for me to elaborate.”

Law, 32, had a career-high 10 interceptions for the Jets last year in his 11th NFL season. He is without question the lone standout free agent left on the open market. He would seem to be a fit at cornerback for the Cards, who have No. 1 corner Antrel Rolle coming off a knee injury and questions about the consistency of the next two corners on the depth chart, David Macklin and Eric Green.

But Law’s asking price — he is reportedly seeking a $10 million signing bonus, in addition to lofty salaries on a multi-year deal — is the reason he remains without a job.

If an NFL player doesn’t sign early in free agency, those dollars are usually unattainable. Poston pointed to Law’s career featuring Pro Bowls and Super Bowls (winning two with the Patriots) as a reason he is worth a big contract, but it’s unlikely to happen, and it certainly won’t happen in Arizona.

Teams that are reportedly considering Law include San Diego, Kansas City and New England. The Patriots and Chiefs have long been considered front-runners; Law spent the first 10 years of his career in New England and he played for new Chiefs coach Herman Edwards last season in New York.

While Poston avoided specifics, he did say Law was close to signing somewhere.

“Oh yeah,” Poston said. “We know it’s June. We know what time it is.”

The Cardinals are believed to have at least $10 million in salary cap space available, although $4.1 million of that is dedicated to the rookie pool to sign the team’s seven draft picks.

The team is also expected to absorb a loftier salary cap number than expected from tackle Leonard Davis. Davis’ salary has gone from $7.17 million in 2006 to $9.17 million according to NFL Players Association documents, apparently due to a contract escalator. Davis, who will be an unrestricted free agent at the end of the season, now has a 2006 cap number of $10.1 million, the highest on the team.

But the money for Law could be available, if both sides were willing to compromise.

Poston said Law would have no problem playing in Arizona “but they would have to pony up.”

 

[The Commish]

Poston said Law would have no problem playing in Arizona “but they would have to pony up.”

Sounds like he will go whereever the money is. It just depends if we want to get in a bidding war. I say absolutely do what it takes to get him, but then again I'm not writing the checks. This would be huuuuuge if we did manage to get him. Having a leader on defense like that would really put us over the top in my opinion.

 

[JeffGollin]

Some random thoughts:

1. The sudden emergence of the Cards as a potential Law suitor fits RG's MO and sounds like our interest could be legit and very serious.

2. But working against us is the historic tendency of some high-profile players to breeze thru here, use us as a negotiation lever and then sign elsewhere. (The Edge signing may have positively altered this karma, though).

3. Instead of considering Law as a potential replacement for Griffin at FS, think of Macklin, Rolle and Law as all fitting the FS profile; with the possible addition of Law making it possible for DG to move any of the three to FS if it made sense to do so.

4. In an era of multi-receiver sets and the tendency for the Injury Gods to decimate even the deepest of roster positions, "you can't have too many corner backs."