Cardinals Worst Draft Class?

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While we're waiting for something to happen, here's the Cards draft classes for the last 10 years. Which one was the worst? I think 2002 was pretty bad. 2000 wasn't bad when you consider many of those players are still playing for OTHER teams.

Update: Added 1990 through 1994

1990
2 31 Anthony Thompson RB Indiana
3 58 Ricky Proehl WR Wake Forest
4 85 Travis Davis DT Michigan State
5 115 Larry Centers RB Stephen F. Austin
6 142 Tyrone Shavers WR Lamar
7 169 Johnny Johnson RB San Jose State
8 199 Mickey Washington DB Texas A&M
9 225 David Bavaro LB Syracuse
10 252 David Elle TE South Dakota
11 282 Dempsey Norman WR St. Francis (IL)
12 308 Donnie Riley RB Central Michigan
12 330 Ken Mitchell DB Oklahoma

1991
1 6 Eric Swann DE None
2 32 Mike Jones DE North Carolina State
3 59 Aeneas Williams DB Southern
4 86 Dexter Davis DB Clemson
5 117 Vance Hammond DT Clemson
6 144 Eduardo Vega T Memphis State
7 171 Ivory Lee Brown RB Arkansas-Pine Bluff
8 198 Greg Amsler RB Tennessee
8 204 Jerry Evans TE Toledo
8 209 Scott Evans DT Oklahoma
10 255 Herbie Anderson DB Texas A&I
11 282 Nathan LaDuke DB Arizona State
12 309 Jeff Bridewell QB California-Davis

1992
2 46 Tony Sacca QB Penn State
3 61 Ed Cunningham C Washington
4 91 Jeff Christy T Pittsburgh
4 100 Michael Bankston DT Sam Houston State
6 146 Brian Brauninger T Oklahoma
7 175 Derek Ware TE Central State (OK)
8 202 Eric Blount WR North Carolina
9 229 David Henson DT Central Arkansas
9 239 Tyrone Williams WR Western Ontario
10 259 Reggie Yarbrough RB Fullerton State
11 286 Rob Baxley T Iowa
12 313 Lance Wilson DT Texas

1993
1 3 Garrison Hearst RB Georgia
1 18 Ernest Dye T South Carolina
2 32 Ben Coleman T Wake Forest
4 87 Ronald Moore RB Pittsburg State (KS)
6 143 Brett Wallerstedt LB Arizona State
7 172 Will White DB Florida
8 199 Chadrick Brown DE Mississippi
8 215 Stevie Anderson WR Grambling

1994
1 10 10 Jamir Miller LB UCLA
2 38 Chuck Levy RB Arizona
3 76 Rich Braham G West Virginia
3 89 Eric England DE Texas A&M
4 107 Perry Carter DB Southern Mississippi
4 113 John Reece DB Nebraska
4 115 Terry Irving LB McNeese State
5 139 Anthony Redmon G Auburn
6 172 Terry Samuels TE Kentucky
7 204 Frank Harvey RB Georgia

1995
2 47 Frank Sanders WR Auburn
3 80 Stoney Case QB New Mexico
5 Cedric Davis DB Tennessee State
5 165 Lance Scott C Utah
5 167 Tito Paul DB Ohio State
6 205 Anthony Bridges DB North Texas
7 212 Billy Williams WR Tennessee
7 224 Wesley Leasy LB Mississippi State
7 241 Chad Eaton DT Washington State

1996
1 3 Simeon Rice DE Illinois
2 32 Leeland McElroy RB Texas A&M
3 64 Johnny McWilliams TE USC
4 112 Aaron Graham C Nebraska
5 137 James Dexter T South Carolina
5 161 Harry Stamps T Oklahoma
5 162 Dell McGee DB Auburn
6 169 Mike Foley DE New Hampshire
7 212 Jarius Hayes TE North Alabama

1997
1 #9 Tommy Knight, CB Iowa
2 #42 Jake Plummer, QB Arizona State
3 #84 Ty Howard, CB Ohio State
4 #106 Chris Dishman, G Nebraska
5 #139 Chad Carpenter, WR Washington State
6 #175 Rod Brown, FB North Carolina
6 #188 Tony McCombs, LB Eastern Kentucky
7 #212 Mark Smith, DE Auburn

1998
1 3 (from San Diego) Andre Wadsworth DE Florida State
2 33 (from San Diego) Corey Chavous DB Vanderbilt
2 36 Anthony Clement OT SW Louisiana
4 95 Michael Pittman RB Fresno State
5 125 Terry Hardy TE S. Mississippi
6 158 Zack Walz LB Dartmouth
7 193 Phil Savoy WR Colorado
7 209 (from NY Jets) George Cousins DE Florida A&M
7 226 * Pat Tillman DB Arizona State
7 233 * Ron Janes RB Missouri

1999
1 8 David Boston WR Ohio St.
1 21 L.J. Shelton OT Eastern Michigan
2 51 Johnny Rutledge ILB Florida
3 83 Tom Burke DE Wisconsin
4 116 Joel Makovicka FB Nebraska
5 155 Paris Johnson S Miami (OH)
5 168 Yusef Scott OG Arizona
6 190 Jacoby Rhinehart CB SMU
6 202 Melvin Bradley DT Arkansas
6 206 Dennis McKinley RB Mississippi St.
7 239 Chris Greisen QB NW Missouri St.

2000
1 7 Thomas Jones HB Virginia
2 41 Raynoch Thompson OLB Tennessee
3 71 Darwin Walker DT Tennessee
4 102 David Barrett CB Arkansas
5 136 Mao Tosi DT Idaho
5 164 Jay Tant TE Northwestern
6 176 Jabari Issa DT Washington
7 215 Sekou Sanyika OLB California

2001
1 2 Leonard Davis OT Texas
2 34 Kyle Vanden Bosch DE Nebraska
2 54 Michael Stone CB Memphis
3 64 Adrian Wilson S North Carolina St.
4 98 Bill Gramatica PK South Florida
4 123 Marcus Bell DT Memphis
5 133 Mario Fatafehi DT Kansas St.
6 166 Bobby Newcombe WR Nebraska
7 202 Renaldo Hill CB Michigan St.
7 246 Tevita Ofahengaue TE Brigham Young

2002
1 12 DT Wendell Bryant (Wisconsin)
2 49 LB Levar Fisher (North Carolina State)
3 81 QB Josh McCown (Sam Houston)
4 98 DE Dennis Johnson (Kentucky)
5 113 DT Nate Dwyer (Kansas)
6 149 WR Jason McAddley (Alabama)
7 185 RB Josh Scobey (Kansas State)
7 223 TE Mike Banks (Iowa State)

2003
1 17(17) Bryant Johnson WR Penn St.
1 18(18 ) Calvin Pace DE Wake Forest
2 22(54) Anquan Boldin WR Florida St.
3 6(70) Gerald Hayes ILB Pittsburgh
5 6(141) Kenny King DT Alabama
6 4(177) Reggie Wells OT Clarion
6 37(210) Tony Gilbert ILB Georgia

2004
1 3(3) Larry Fitzgerald WR Pittsburgh
2 1(33) Karlos Dansby OLB Auburn
3 1(64) Darnell Dockett DT Florida St.
4 4(100) Alex Stepanovich C Ohio St.
5 3(135) Antonio Smith DE Oklahoma St.
6 2(167) Nick Leckey OG Kansas St.
7 1(202) John Navarre QB Michigan
 
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One thing is striking

Compare 2004 to all the other years....

Happy days are here!!!!!


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Scott MS said:
2003
1 17(17) Bryant Johnson WR Penn St.
1 18(18 ) Calvin Pace DE Wake Forest
2 22(54) Anquan Boldin WR Florida St.
3 6(70) Gerald Hayes ILB Pittsburgh
5 6(141) Kenny King DT Alabama
6 4(177) Reggie Wells OT Clarion
6 37(210) Tony Gilbert ILB Georgia


as much as people say 2004 was a great draft...2003 doesn't look that bad. out of that list maybe 4 starters in 2005 and 1 maybe 2 backups playing significant roles!
 

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2002 was :barf: , However none of the drafts except last year look that great. I was going to say 1995, but we got Rob Morre for our first round pick so that was somewhat good.
 
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I was looking at the list and wondering if maybe somebody was paying the Cards to screw up their drafts. There was just no eye for talented players who could make it to the NFL.
 
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as much as people say 2004 was a great draft...2003 doesn't look that bad. out of that list maybe 4 starters in 2005 and 1 maybe 2 backups playing significant roles!

I agree 2003 looks good. With the exception of Calvin Pace who was selected too high, they drafted some guys with promise.
 

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2002 was :barf: , However none of the drafts except last year look that great. I was going to say 1995, but we got Rob Morre for our first round pick so that was somewhat good.

Where is Rob Moore these days?
 

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The last two drafts are the only ones worth mentioning. That probably means we have lots to look forward to. It is hard to believe how badly we have drafted over the last 10 years. A team would have to work hard to draft any worse.


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Geez our drafts look horrible (except really for our last two ones) Boldin made the previous draft decent....and our last draft looks good.

It's funny how people hate to give up draft picks to get players but when you look at most drafts, most players don't pan out...
 

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Scott MS said:
While we're waiting for something to happen, here's the Cards draft classes for the last 10 years. Which one was the worst? I think 2002 was pretty bad. 2000 wasn't bad when you consider many of those players are still playing for OTHER teams.


1995
2 47 Frank Sanders WR Auburn
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7 241 Chad Eaton DT Washington State

1996
1 3 Simeon Rice DE Illinois
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1997
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2 #42 Jake Plummer, QB Arizona State
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4 #106 Chris Dishman, G Nebraska
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7 #212 Mark Smith, DE Auburn

1998
1 3 (from San Diego) Andre Wadsworth DE Florida State
2 33 (from San Diego) Corey Chavous DB Vanderbilt
2 36 Anthony Clement OT SW Louisiana
4 95 Michael Pittman RB Fresno State
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7 226 * Pat Tillman DB Arizona State
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1999
1 8 David Boston WR Ohio St.
1 21 L.J. Shelton OT Eastern Michigan
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2000
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2 41 Raynoch Thompson OLB Tennessee
3 71 Darwin Walker DT Tennessee
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2001
1 2 Leonard Davis OT Texas
2 34 Kyle Vanden Bosch DE Nebraska
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3 64 Adrian Wilson S North Carolina St.
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7 202 Renaldo Hill CB Michigan St.
7

2002
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3 81 QB Josh McCown (Sam Houston)
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7 185 RB Josh Scobey (Kansas State)
7

2003
1 17(17) Bryant Johnson WR Penn St.
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2 22(54) Anquan Boldin WR Florida St.
3 6(70) Gerald Hayes ILB Pittsburgh
5 6(141) Kenny King DT Alabama
6 4(177) Reggie Wells OT Clarion
6

2004
1 3(3) Larry Fitzgerald WR Pittsburgh
2 1(33) Karlos Dansby OLB Auburn
3 1(64) Darnell Dockett DT Florida St.
4 4(100) Alex Stepanovich C Ohio St.
5
6 2(167) Nick Leckey OG Kansas St.
7 1(202) John Navarre QB Michigan

There, I edited down to the picks that were either A) good choices at the time B) guys who have panned out well for us or other teams, or C) guys who produced here for a time (Plummer, Boston, Mark Smith, etc.).

There's a lot of holes in there. Gheeezus did we have some bad drafts.

While I'm not too thrilled with the terrible trade we made in the draft of 2003, it's definitely true that McGinnis and Graves did well drafting rounds 2-6... those rounds worked out really friggin' nice for us that year. Here's hoping we continue to build w/ Green's drafting.
 

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Scott MS said:
While we're waiting for something to happen, here's the Cards draft classes for the last 10 years. Which one was the worst? I think 2002 was pretty bad. 2000 wasn't bad when you consider many of those players are still playing for OTHER teams.

WORST DRAFT
1995
2 47 Frank Sanders WR Auburn
3 80 Stoney Case QB New Mexico
5 Cedric Davis DB Tennessee State
5 165 Lance Scott C Utah
5 167 Tito Paul DB Ohio State
6 205 Anthony Bridges DB North Texas
7 212 Billy Williams WR Tennessee
7 224 Wesley Leasy LB Mississippi State
7 241 Chad Eaton DT Washington State

BEST DRAFT
2004
1 3(3) Larry Fitzgerald WR Pittsburgh
2 1(33) Karlos Dansby OLB Auburn
3 1(64) Darnell Dockett DT Florida St.
4 4(100) Alex Stepanovich C Ohio St.
5 3(135) Antonio Smith DE Oklahoma St.
6 2(167) Nick Leckey OG Kansas St.
7 1(202) John Navarre QB Michigan

4 #106 Chris Dishman, G Nebraska We got him from Buffalo as a FA. He played on Buffalo's super bowl teams.


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Bobcat said:
4 #106 Chris Dishman, G Nebraska We got him from Buffalo as a FA. He played on Buffalo's super bowl teams.


Bobcat :wave: :thumbup:


I'm pretty sure Dishman was drafted. Here's a review from 1997. You have to love how the experts rated the draft. Picking Ty Howard was an A+!!! What a freaking steal!!

Picking Dishman was a D-.


HOW THEY DID

1.With pick # 9 (CB-Tommy Knight,Iowa) the Cardinals might have reached a little here. CB was their biggest need, but I feel Knight was highly overrated. He’s 5’11" 195lbs. and runs a 4.43/40. His cover skills are sound, he doesn’t take many chances and has good recovery speed. He played 5 years at Iowa, getting an extra year of eligability due to a knee injury in ‘94. His knee appears to be totally recovered, so that shouldn’t be a concern. Don’t get me wrong, it’s a good pick and I think Knight will be an immediate starter, but don’t be suprised if he moves to Safety. I thought Michael Booker or Chris Canty would have been a better pick. .
GRADE.....B+

2. At # 42 the Cardinals couldn’t resist the temptation of taking fan favorite, QB-Jake Plummer,Arizona State. If Plummer was 6’4" instead of 6’1" he would’ve been a top ten selection, no doubt. As far as leadership skills and on the field awareness he’s one of the best QB prospects in years. I thought the Cards would go for an offensive lineman with this pick, but they probably did the right thing. Jake Plummer is a winner, and if he doesn’t win the starting job in training camp, I’ll be suprised.
GRADE.....B+

3. The Cardinals made a trade here. They went from # 71 down to # 84 and received pick # 188 from the Eagles. With pick # 84 the Cards picked CB-Ty Howard, Ohio State. ABSOLUTE STEAL!! If you couldn’t tell already, I really liked this pick. I had Howard rated one spot ahead of # 8 Knight. The only reason Howard slipped this far was because he’s a little small (5’9" 185). He makes up for his lack of heigth with a 39" vertical. He’s very fast (4.36/40) and has better cover skills than Knight. I’m convinced he’s a better CB than Knight, that’s why I think Knight will end up at Safety.
GRADE.....A+

4. With pick # 106 the Cardinals finally tried to improve the offensive line by picking Nebraska Guard Chris Dishman. He’s got good size (6’2" 325lbs.), but isn’t very quick (5.40/40). In college Dishman was mostly a backup until his final year. He did have a good year in ‘96, and if he continues to improve, could evenually become a starter. The Cards needed a powerful run-blocking guard, and I don’t think Dishman is the right man. OT/G-Jerome Daniels, Northeastern was still available, and was a much better prospect. I think the Cards will regret not picking him. Dishman would have been available at # 139, maybe even # 175.
GRADE.....D+

5. They really lost me here. With pick # 139, the Cardinals picked WR-Chad Carpenter, Washington State. I’ll admit it, I’d never heard of this guy. I did some research and here’s what I found. He’s got good size (6’1" 200lbs.) with average speed (4.59/40). Ring a bell?? Don’t the Cardinals already have two guys (Rob Moore and Frank Sanders) that fit that mold. The Cardinals needed a speed receiver, not another big receiver. Carpenter doesn’t really fill a need. There were alot of speed receivers out there, who had better ‘96 numbers than Carpenter. For example: Micheal Adams,Texas/ Brian Manning,Stanford/ and Antuan Wyatt, Betune-Cookman.
GRADE.....D-

6. At pick # 175 the Cardinals selected FB-Rod Brown, North Carolina State. Brown is very strong and is the best blocking FB in the draft. He’s an average runner and has suprisingly good hands. I had Jerald Sowell, Tulane ranked as the # 1 fullback in the draft, and he was still available, but Brown may fit in with the Cardinals better than Sowell would have. This could be a good indication that Larry Centers will be getting alot more carries this year.
GRADE.....B-

6. With pick # 188, obtained from Philadelphia, the Cardinals picked LB-Tony McCombs,Eastern Kentucky. Looks like another steal here. McCombs has good size (6’2" 240lbs.) and great speed (4.55/40). Like Ronnie McKinnon, from last year, McCombs will probably take some time to develop, but I see him as a valuable special teams player this year, and look for him to start in ‘98.
GRADE.....B+

7. With their final pick ,# 212, The Cardianls selected DE-Mark Smith, Auburn. Smith is 6’3" 295lbs, he’s got average speed (4.95/40), and has exceptional athletic ability. The problem?? He’s got a questionable knee. After having knee surgery early in ‘96, Smith had a good season, but he never seemed to be at full strength. If his knee is healthy he should serve as a valuable backup along the defensive front. Good pick at this point, but I thought DT’s-Myron Elzy, Central State (Ohio) and Jason Ferguson, Georgia had alot better upside than Smith, and one of them should have been the pick here.
GRADE.....C-

SUMMARY

Positives: I really liked what the Cardinals did in the secondary. They needed alot of help, and got it. Picking a QB for the future was also a good move. And the addition of a blocking fullback was also smart. Depth at linebacker was also addressed, and i feel they got a prospect here.

Negatives: I was disappointed the Cardinals didn’t try harder to improve their offensive line. I also thought they failed to do any upgrading at wide receiver.

OVERALL GRADE.....B-
 
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Check out some of the players we could have had we have drafted smarter. I tracked backed to 1997.
1997- We took Tom Knight. We could have had Tony Gonzalez.
1998- We took Andre Wadsworth. We could have had Charles Woodson.
1999- We took David Boston and L.J. Shelton. We could have had Chris McAlister and still should have taken Shelton.
2000- We took Thomas Jones. We could have had either Brian Urlacher or SHAUN ALEXANDER!!
2001- We took Leonard Davis. I would have taken him so that pick was good.
2002- We took Wendell Bryant. We could have had Ed Reed.
2003- We took Bryant Johnson and Calvin Pace. We had the sixth pick and could have taken hometown hero Terrell Suggs. Even ESPN analysts said live "what were they thinking?". And that's a trade I will never forgive them for.
2004- We took Larry Fitzgerald and I agreed with the pick because we weren't the only ones who passed on Roethlisberger.

Imagine how our team would be doing if we had that roster.
 

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Scott MS said:
I'm pretty sure Dishman was drafted. [/i]


You are very right about Dishman. We did draft him that year. Sorry for the Mistake I made. And thank you for keeping me honnest.

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Here are a few of our doozies (note how we'd screw up the top of these drafts only to pull a few decent players out of our butts in the later rounds):

1970
1. Larry Stegent RB Texas A&M (apologies to Larry's relatives who have lodged a beef over this on the BRS)
2a. Jim Corrigal LB Kent St
2b. Chuck Hutchison G Ohio St
3a. Charlie Pittman RB Penn St
3b Eric Harris DB Colorado
4 Greg Lens DT Trinity TX
and 15 others including Mike Holmgren and C Tom Banks

1975
1. Tim Gray CB Texas A&M
2. Jim Germany RB NM St.
5. Harvey Goodman T Colorado
and 14 other nondescript players

1977
1. Steve Piczarkeiwicz QB Mizzou
2. George Franklin FB Texas A& I
3a. Kurt Allerman LB Penn St (actually pretty decent)
3b Terdell Middleton RB Memphis St (also pretty good)
5a Ernest Lee DT Texas
5b Andy Spiva LB Tennessee
etc.

1978
1a Steve Little K Arkansas
1b Ken Greene DB Wash St
2 John Barefield LB Texas A& I
3 Doug Greene DE Texas A&I
4a George Collins G Georgia
4b Jim Childs WR Cal- StL Obispo
etc.

1984
1. Clyde Duncan WR Tenn
2. Doug Dawson G Texas (Decent player)
3 Rick McIvor QB Texas
4. Martin Bayless
5a. Jeff Leiding
5b. John Goode
but also LB Niko Noga

1986
1. Anthony Bell LB Michigan St
2. John Lee K UCLA
3. Gene Chilton c Texas
4. Carl Carter CB Texas Tech
5. Jeff Tupper DE Okla
but also PR Vai Sickahema and G Ray Brown

1987
1. Kelly Stouffer QB Colo State
2. Tim MacDonald S UCLA (exception to rule - great pick)
3a. Robert Awalt TE SD State (also a good pick)
3b. Colin Scotts DE Hawaii
4. Rod Saddler DT Texas A &M
etc.

1992
1. Trade for Randal (dropped the second "l" to make me lighter) Hill
2. Tony Sacca QB Penn St.
3. Ed Cunningham C Washington (decent player)
4. Jeff Christy OL Pitt (Yup. We originally drafted him)
5. Michael Bankston DE Sam Houston (another good 'un)
 

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Scott MS said:
I'm pretty sure Dishman was drafted. Here's a review from 1997. You have to love how the experts rated the draft. Picking Ty Howard was an A+!!! What a freaking steal!!

Picking Dishman was a D-.




1.With pick # 9 (CB-Tommy Knight,Iowa) the Cardinals might have reached a little here. CB was their biggest need, but I feel Knight was highly overrated. He’s 5’11" 195lbs. and runs a 4.43/40. His cover skills are sound, he doesn’t take many chances and has good recovery speed. He played 5 years at Iowa, getting an extra year of eligability due to a knee injury in ‘94. His knee appears to be totally recovered, so that shouldn’t be a concern. Don’t get me wrong, it’s a good pick and I think Knight will be an immediate starter, but don’t be suprised if he moves to Safety. I thought Michael Booker or Chris Canty would have been a better pick. .
GRADE.....B+


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Check out some of the players we could have had we have drafted smarter. I tracked backed to 1997.
1997- We took Tom Knight. We could have had Tony Gonzalez.
1998- We took Andre Wadsworth. We could have had Charles Woodson.
1999- We took David Boston and L.J. Shelton. We could have had Chris McAlister and still should have taken Shelton.
2000- We took Thomas Jones. We could have had either Brian Urlacher or SHAUN ALEXANDER!!
2001- We took Leonard Davis. I would have taken him so that pick was good. Or we could have traded with San Deigo for the #1 pick and drafted Michael Vick. We had the #2 spot in the draft that year. Surely SD would have traded with us.
2002- We took Wendell Bryant. We could have had Ed Reed.
2003- We took Bryant Johnson and Calvin Pace. We had the sixth pick and could have taken hometown hero Terrell Suggs. Even ESPN analysts said live "what were they thinking?". And that's a trade I will never forgive them for.
2004- We took Larry Fitzgerald and I agreed with the pick because we weren't the only ones who passed on Roethlisberger.

Imagine how our team would be doing if we had that roster.

I added my two cents to your Leonard Davis comment. I do this all the time with my 20/20 hind sight. It does me no good, but I like to play the "What if?" game just to torture myself. BTW, I like the fact that Denny's picks are from major universities.
 

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Those are some pretty dreadful drafts. Part of the reason the Cardinals have had only 1 playoff season in the last 30 years in a non strike year
 

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3a. Robert Awalt TE SD State (also a good pick)

Awalt was a good pick indeed Jeff. This got me to thinking about the other TE we drafted either the year before this or the year after from Wyoming I think. Dang his name escapes me!!! Bugel cut him and he went on and had several good years for the Cowgirls!!!! What was his name? Didn't we draft him too?
 

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3a. Robert Awalt TE SD State (also a good pick)

Awalt was a good pick indeed Jeff. This got me to thinking about the other TE we drafted either the year before this or the year after from Wyoming I think. Dang his name escapes me!!! Bugel cut him and he went on and had several good years for the Cowgirls!!!! What was his name? Didn't we draft him too?

Yeah, we had Novacek and Awalt at TE and they both had around 50 catches apeice with Lomax throwing to them. That offense with R Green,Tilley,E Ferral and L Sharpe (before the drugs) could really move the ball. Who was the other RB Ottis or Stump?

That phantom ruffing penalty on E.J. Junior, a converted 3 and 18 to Art Monk(?) and the missed 50yr field goal wakes me up cussing in the middle of the night once a month. :mad:

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I knew you would remember his name Shuesters!!!! Jay Novacek of course!!! I am pretty sure we drafted him too!!!
Oh man I feel you on that Redskins game too Shuest!!!! OOOOOOOHHHHHH how that missed 50 yrd field goal hurt!!!! He makes it and we are in the playoffs. Thought we outplayed the 'Skins all day that day!!!! We still had Ottis because he was with the Cards until the coach from the Cowboys that went on to 'Bama traded him which was after this game with the 'Skins. This team may have been one of the best ones that never made it to the playoffs. Hanifan was HC.
 

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When you look at the ineptitude of these drafts, is there any surprise why the Cardinals record since they've moved to AZ has been worse than putrid. I'd have to say that their best drafts were 2001, 2003, 2004. Everything else SUCKS.
 
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