Cards-21 Redskins-22: The Good, The Bad, & The Ugly

[BigRedArk]

I'm not saying that's what definitely happened, but it's interesting that we've scapegoated two defensive coordinators now but Russ Grimm is making over $1 million per year and carrying an assistant head coach title while producing the worst offensive line product in the NFL and everyone in the building is now admitting his handpicked LT was a huge mistake.

So either everyone on Hardy Drive is accepting Russ Grimm's repeated failures and happily cutting him checks, or someone above Russ Grimm is standing up for him year after year.

I prefer to believe it's the latter, because the former is too dark a scenario even for me.

Ah I see your logic now. Yeah interesting indeed.

 

[Cheesebeef]

This team will win some games, but we'll lose to teams we should beat (Redskins) because of being outcoached and having holes on our roster at crucial positions (OT and OLB).

it's still unfathomable to me that we didn't add ANYONE at either of these positions after watching both positions just be HORRIFIC last year. they've been problem areas for YEARS.

Such a head scratcher.

 

[Cheesebeef]

No intro for this one, I'll just get right to it:


The Good

Kevin Kolb-17-30 for 251 yards, 2TD, and 1 pick. That pick turned into a huge mistake as we were driving but all in all, another good game by him. He still put his team in position to win. Sad that Whiz didn't find it necessary to get him an offensive line.

Fitz-What more can be said about this guy? Big play after big play and yet this pathetic defense spoils it.

Beanie-93 yards on the ground and this is with only 3 carries in the 1st half.

The Bad

I think I'm going to skip the bad and go right to...

The Ugly

The coaching-Sucks. Once again this team came into a game totally unprepared to play. That is on the coach. When a team comes out completely unmotivated, that is on the coach. When a team has no answer for a 2nd rate QB, that is on the coach. Whiz's coaching style goes to show that this team wins in spite of him and not because of him. Had Kurt Warner not had a renaissance, Whiz would have been fired after 2009. That fact is blatantly obvious with each passing week. And I believe Whiz has officially spent the last of his juice card from making the Super Bowl.

Defense-455 yards against today added to the 477 from last week. That's damned near 1,000 yards against in 2 weeks...and against a rookie QB and a 2nd rate QB. And to think we still have to face Flacco, Roethlisberger, Vick, and Bradford yet. This defense showed not one iota of fire. The way PP quit on the last TD was maddening. And 1 sack? Against a QB who's about as mobile as a road grater? And how many 3rd and 4th and longs is this defense going to allow the other team to convert?

Offensive Line-You know, just 3 seconds. That's all I ask. Give Kolb just 3 seconds but noooooo, he had to be running for his life all day. These guys need a heart transplant and fast.

Penalties-97 yards this week. 75 yards last week. Again, coaching. And if I hear "False Start #75" one more time I'm going to throw my TV into the fire. No discipline at all on this team. And that, again, falls on the coaching staff and more specifically, Whiz.

That's all. Regardless of what some here may think, this was a must win and we all but had this game in our pocket before Whiz did his usual coaching not to lose instead of coaching to win. And the reason why this was a must win is because after the bye, we have a brutal stretch and going into that stretch we needed to be at least 3-2 or maybe 4-1 and right now I don't have a lot of confidence in beating Seattle next week. Not with this defense. But this team needs to get it's head out of their kieseters and quick. And someone needs to step up as a leader. Right now I don't think this team has one.

agreed with every point made here.

 

[Chopper0080]

No intro for this one, I'll just get right to it:


The Good

Kevin Kolb-17-30 for 251 yards, 2TD, and 1 pick. That pick turned into a huge mistake as we were driving but all in all, another good game by him. He still put his team in position to win. Sad that Whiz didn't find it necessary to get him an offensive line.

Fitz-What more can be said about this guy? Big play after big play and yet this pathetic defense spoils it.

Beanie-93 yards on the ground and this is with only 3 carries in the 1st half.

The Bad

I think I'm going to skip the bad and go right to...

The Ugly

The coaching-Sucks. Once again this team came into a game totally unprepared to play. That is on the coach. When a team comes out completely unmotivated, that is on the coach. When a team has no answer for a 2nd rate QB, that is on the coach. Whiz's coaching style goes to show that this team wins in spite of him and not because of him. Had Kurt Warner not had a renaissance, Whiz would have been fired after 2009. That fact is blatantly obvious with each passing week. And I believe Whiz has officially spent the last of his juice card from making the Super Bowl.

Defense-455 yards against today added to the 477 from last week. That's damned near 1,000 yards against in 2 weeks...and against a rookie QB and a 2nd rate QB. And to think we still have to face Flacco, Roethlisberger, Vick, and Bradford yet. This defense showed not one iota of fire. The way PP quit on the last TD was maddening. And 1 sack? Against a QB who's about as mobile as a road grater? And how many 3rd and 4th and longs is this defense going to allow the other team to convert?

Offensive Line-You know, just 3 seconds. That's all I ask. Give Kolb just 3 seconds but noooooo, he had to be running for his life all day. These guys need a heart transplant and fast.

Penalties-97 yards this week. 75 yards last week. Again, coaching. And if I hear "False Start #75" one more time I'm going to throw my TV into the fire. No discipline at all on this team. And that, again, falls on the coaching staff and more specifically, Whiz.

That's all. Regardless of what some here may think, this was a must win and we all but had this game in our pocket before Whiz did his usual coaching not to lose instead of coaching to win. And the reason why this was a must win is because after the bye, we have a brutal stretch and going into that stretch we needed to be at least 3-2 or maybe 4-1 and right now I don't have a lot of confidence in beating Seattle next week. Not with this defense. But this team needs to get it's head out of their kieseters and quick. And someone needs to step up as a leader. Right now I don't think this team has one.

A little chicken little here in my opinion.

1-You can't say that the offensive line had a terrible day when your 3 good players are a QB, RB and WR. Yes the offensive line once again leaves something to be desired in terms of talent, but it was far from awful. The Giants struggled against the front 7 of the Redskins if you remember week 1. Also keep in mind that the big hit on Kolb where he fumbled was the TE blocking.

2-The coaching (game plan) was not terrible, we just didn't execute. The entire first half our defense could not get off the field on 3rd down because of the individual execution of the players, not the coach. We stuffed Hightower early, and then wore down because we kept allowing drives to get extended with penalties or poor plays. As far as the offensive game plan, really? We had like 4 possessions if the first half,what was Whis going to do? When we finally did get some chances in the 2nd half, we put together drives and made a great adjustment on the fly when the Redskins got nicked up in the secondary. I have no problem with the game plan and mid game adjustments.

3-The penalties have to go. We aren't good enough to win despite them and must become better at limiting both penalties and turnovers.

 

[Jasper]

1. Our tackles suck and are in the wrong position. Levi cannot cope well with speed rushers. He needs help, like a TE on every passing play which takes away one of our weapons. Heap and King are pass catching TEs not priority blockers. Levi has no confidence in pass blocking that is why he needs all the help he can get. Even that extra 0.5 sec which usually causes a false start. Our RT is a good backup at best, not a starter.

2. Since we can't pass block why don't be just run more? We have a very decent OL for run blocking. We also average more than 5 yards per rushing play, heck we could run two times and get a 1st down n. Why not run it? Use the run to open up the pass, atleast call a run consecutively. We barely run more than once or twice before we call a pass. Short yardage, call a run, we can pound it. We pass on short yardage only to get a false start, sack and causes us to become 3rd and long again.

3. We are not a 3-4 defense team. Our pesonnel doesn't fit it, dump it until we get the right personnel. You cannot run a 3-4 if your LBs can't blitz. If your LBs can't blitz then get someone else to blitz like an extra tackle or DE.

4. Our last game had stupid coaching and game calling. I could have counted about 10 plays where we could have closed out the game on offense and defense.

5. Ben Graham couldn't have been this bad.

It is very obvious what our flaws are and if the coaches don't fix it this week Whiz will have to find a new job. Come on anyone can see it, make the changes damn it.

 

[londonpete]

The ugly for me was yet again failing to close out a game.

We have the lead, 5 mins to go , the run game is flowing nicely. OK field position isn't great but instead of taking maybe 3 mins off the clock, scoring at least a FG and putting pressure back on the Skins, we go 3 and out, and sure enough they know exactly how to milk the clock to take the win.

All games have their ebbs and flows but when you are down to the last few minutes, with a lead, with the ball in hand, you have to know how to close the game down and it just doesn't seem like we know how to do that.

 

[Jasper]

21-13, The D could not stop the skins even on a 4th down. We gave up a TD on 4th down and 3 for crying out load.

21-19 luckily the 2 pt failes which gave us false hope.

We have the ball and did not run to eat the clock, get a first down nor a FG.
Offense screwed the pooch and put the hot potato on the D. A decent run followed by 2 incomplete passes. On that 2nd a 7 I was screaming for a run. If it was a run the way we were rushing it could have lead into a 3rd and short If it was a 3rd and short run again which could have led into a 1st down and another 2 mins off the clock.

Even if we gave the ball away what a lazy punt. 40 yards?
The D became soft and let in a FG.
21-22

With 1:45 left we fumble the ball back to them. We gave them the game. We only needed a FG to win but we gave them the game.

 

[Totally_Red]

For all the good second half runs by Beanie, he still dropped a screen pass and screwed up on at least two pass blocking assignments that I saw.

If this team doesn't address offensive tackle and pass rush defenders again this Coming offseason, #$&#(*$&@(#*$&@#(*.

Joey Porter was done last year. I mean it's like playing with seven defenders. And our two offensive tackles need to take up bull-fighting. Ole'!

 

[jmt]

If Graham is so good why is he out of the league? Punting did not lose this game.

 

[Jasper]

If Graham is so good why is he out of the league? Punting did not lose this game.

Punting didn't lose the game but was a factor. I think our special teams also missed LSH. The second to last punt didn't hurt us too bad since we scored, but the last punt for 40 yards was a killer. Those extra 20 yards could have helped our defense.

 

[CorporalCardinal]

OK....my take since I finally have some time to sit down and say what I think:

1)OL: The interior is solid, Colledge is angry and has a fire, Hadnot is surprising me by keeping fat Letui off the field more by his play then by Tui's weight, and Sendlein continues to be an underrated center. Levi is a bust, he makes a tolerable RT but can't hang with the big pass rushers on the Left side. Keith is not the answer either. Levi will go the way of Leonard Davis; somewhere else to be a guard. Keith will be cut next year.

2)Receivers: Larry is a legend, end of story. Stucky needs to have his butt kicked for making a rookie mistake and not securing the ball; I think Kolb would have found a way to get us to FG range. Roberts and Doucet disappeared against the Skins. King continues to be "the forgotten man" in coverage; that's just a plus for us. Heap still has a lot in the tank.

3)QB: Kolb is the answer for us. He made one mistake but made up for it with the strike to Larry. I was really impressed that he took the hit, made the throw, and was only worried that he had overthrown Larry; that's a leader.

4)RB: Sherman tattoos people on every play; solid FB. Beanie looks like the guy we thought we drafted; right now you're looking at close to 1600 yards if he keeps it up. Taylor looks old and slow, not the best option as the change of pace. Without the Hyphen, there is no real change of pace to the rush attack. WE MUST RUN MORE. Beanie averages over 6 yards a carry and we go away from him? Wrong answer.

5)DL: Williams and Campbell are non-entities right now. Williams must improve and be that anchor, though his "backup" will gladly hold up better than him. Campbell is a subpar 3-4 end; he doesn't anchor well against the run and lost that explosive step that made us think he could be a top pass rusher two years ago. Dockett can only do so much when he is double teamed; this is largely due to the OLBs being a non factor.

6)LB: Bradley was ok, but Whashington is the soul of that group. Lenon does a solid job downhill attacking the run, but his coverage is not good enough for how teams will attack the D. OLB is old and slow period. Porter is a spot guy now, not a starter. There's more life in Haggans, but not by much.

7)DB: Wilson is a stud in the box and on the blitz, but can't cover. Rhodes is constantly lost or out of position; we need a true centerfielder ala Troy in Pittsburgh to play this defense. Our corners are young, PP needs to wake up and not quit on plays; that's just ridiculous. Jefferson is more reliable then PP at this point and our other corners are here cause they can't stick anywhere else.

8)Special Teams: Feely didn't get the chance to kick the winner and Zastudil is a directional punter, not the best option when you're constantly trying to win field position. Jefferson was ok as Hyphen's replacement; I don't think he reads his wedge well though. They missed the Hyphen today, you could tell in coverage.

9)Coaching: Whiz needs to become a disciple of The Big Tuna; DISCIPLINE! DISCIPLINE! DISCIPLINE! Stupid penalties will be the death of this team. The game plan was horrible in the first half, the adjustments looked great in the third and then they lost their minds and went back to not knowing how to call a play.

Overall, we hung tough due to luck (2 picks and some missed plays by the Skins) and three players on O (Larry, Beanie and Kolb). We must go into Seattle and crush them; send a message and find an identity.

 

[ASUCHRIS]

it's still unfathomable to me that we didn't add ANYONE at either of these positions after watching both positions just be HORRIFIC last year. they've been problem areas for YEARS.

Such a head scratcher.

Yep. This is no surprise, many of us talked about it all offseason. You still try to be positive and hope for the best, but as a wise man once said, "hope is not a plan".

The scariest part, it's not like there are major injury issues or bad luck involved. The plan was to go into the season with this crap at those positions and hope that the results would be different. Insanity.

 

[Cheesebeef]

Yep. This is no surprise, many of us talked about it all offseason. You still try to be positive and hope for the best, but as a wise man once said, "hope is not a plan".

The scariest part, it's not like there are major injury issues or bad luck involved. The plan was to go into the season with this crap at those positions and hope that the results would be different. Insanity.

agreed.

 

[Krangodnzr]

The Good:

1) QB. Kolb makes a mistake here and there and I'm not a fan of him leaving the pocket so often, but he has the ability to throw accurate strikes down the field and I think he wins more battles than he loses. Kolb can be the answer for the next 5-10 years for this team and I think the early returns on the trade are largely positive for us.

2) Interior OLine. Especially Colledge, he has played very well so far. Sendlein continues to develop into one of the better centers in the league and Hadnot has held his own.

3) LB. We have a few good players at ILB. Washington was sorely missed, but a lot of our issues yesterday were schematic, I don't think Washington would have turned the tide against the Skins ground game. Washington, Bradley, Lenon and Walker are solid players and I don't think they're the issue.

4) WR. Sure Kolb didn't get the ball to Doucet and Roberts enough, but they were open at times that Kolb didn't find them. That happens with any QB, so it's not a knock of Kolb. I think we have a good group that looks to get yards after the catch. I'd like to see the team try to get the ball to Fitz deep EARLY in the game, not wait until the second half.

5) Overall, this team looks like it can run the ball, and Beanie is running better than he ever has. He still leaves too many yards ungained, tripping up on the slightest of lower body contact. Just like against Carolina, Beanie had another run that he might have taken to the house if he doesn't trip up. One of these weeks it's going to happen.

6) Return game. Whether it's LSH, PP21, or Jefferson, this team can return the rock.


The BAD!:

1) OT. I've been a big advocate of Keith, but the guy is making too many mistakes in pass protection; Kerrigan ate his lunch yesterday and I'm being to think the glimpses of good play we've seen from Keith are only that, glimpses. Levi Brown is awful and we need to replace him, no question about it, though he has been VERY good run blocking for Beanie off the left side.

2) Pass rusher. Look at what the Redskins have at OLB, and you'll understand the disadvantage that Horton is scheming around. Not a single passrusher on the roster has to be accounted for on any given play. Kerrigan would be our best pass rusher RIGHT NOW. And with the shift in coordinators, we aren't going to expect to see as much pressure from the DEs since Horton wants the DEs to take on blockers more.

I think Horton is going to need to back off the blitz a bit and cover more, because if the blitz doesn't get there (which it didn't yesterday) then any QB in the league will pick us apart.

3) Safety. Rhodes just hasn't looked very good so far and Wilson couldn't cover me. We desperately need some safeties that bring something in coverage packages. What sucks is that we don't have any young guys that we can count on. Johnson showed some flashes at the end of last year, but so far he's been MIA. And after Johnson there is no other young prospect.

4) Punting. Zastudil hasn't been a huge upgrade over Graham and I think we need a good young punter. Zastudil gets some distance, but his hang time is suspect. We're going to get burned soon by poor punting.

5) Coaching. I'm a big proponent of our soon to be winningest coach in franchise history, 1 time NFC Champ, and 2 time NFC West Champ. But Whisenhunt was clearly outcoached at times against Washington. Early on, we had no schematic answer to Washington's ground game, and we didn't make any adjustments to stop them. We also had no answer to stopping their pass rushers, on one play leaving King to block Orakpo which blew up in our face.

If we're to have a winning season and get back to the playoffs, Whisenhunt has to show up every week. IMO his coaching staff waited way too long to make adjustments and a loss was the result.

IMO the Redskins are not a better team than us, but you wouldn't think that if you just watched yesterdays game.

 

[MadCardDisease]

The Good:

1) QB. Kolb makes a mistake here and there and I'm not a fan of him leaving the pocket so often, but he has the ability to throw accurate strikes down the field and I think he wins more battles than he loses. Kolb can be the answer for the next 5-10 years for this team and I think the early returns on the trade are largely positive for us.

2) Interior OLine. Especially Colledge, he has played very well so far. Sendlein continues to develop into one of the better centers in the league and Hadnot has held his own.

3) LB. We have a few good players at ILB. Washington was sorely missed, but a lot of our issues yesterday were schematic, I don't think Washington would have turned the tide against the Skins ground game. Washington, Bradley, Lenon and Walker are solid players and I don't think they're the issue.

4) WR. Sure Kolb didn't get the ball to Doucet and Roberts enough, but they were open at times that Kolb didn't find them. That happens with any QB, so it's not a knock of Kolb. I think we have a good group that looks to get yards after the catch. I'd like to see the team try to get the ball to Fitz deep EARLY in the game, not wait until the second half.

5) Overall, this team looks like it can run the ball, and Beanie is running better than he ever has. He still leaves too many yards ungained, tripping up on the slightest of lower body contact. Just like against Carolina, Beanie had another run that he might have taken to the house if he doesn't trip up. One of these weeks it's going to happen.

6) Return game. Whether it's LSH, PP21, or Jefferson, this team can return the rock.


The BAD!:

1) OT. I've been a big advocate of Keith, but the guy is making too many mistakes in pass protection; Kerrigan ate his lunch yesterday and I'm being to think the glimpses of good play we've seen from Keith are only that, glimpses. Levi Brown is awful and we need to replace him, no question about it, though he has been VERY good run blocking for Beanie off the left side.

2) Pass rusher. Look at what the Redskins have at OLB, and you'll understand the disadvantage that Horton is scheming around. Not a single passrusher on the roster has to be accounted for on any given play. Kerrigan would be our best pass rusher RIGHT NOW. And with the shift in coordinators, we aren't going to expect to see as much pressure from the DEs since Horton wants the DEs to take on blockers more.

I think Horton is going to need to back off the blitz a bit and cover more, because if the blitz doesn't get there (which it didn't yesterday) then any QB in the league will pick us apart.

3) Safety. Rhodes just hasn't looked very good so far and Wilson couldn't cover me. We desperately need some safeties that bring something in coverage packages. What sucks is that we don't have any young guys that we can count on. Johnson showed some flashes at the end of last year, but so far he's been MIA. And after Johnson there is no other young prospect.

4) Punting. Zastudil hasn't been a huge upgrade over Graham and I think we need a good young punter. Zastudil gets some distance, but his hang time is suspect. We're going to get burned soon by poor punting.

5) Coaching. I'm a big proponent of our soon to be winningest coach in franchise history, 1 time NFC Champ, and 2 time NFC West Champ. But Whisenhunt was clearly outcoached at times against Washington. Early on, we had no schematic answer to Washington's ground game, and we didn't make any adjustments to stop them. We also had no answer to stopping their pass rushers, on one play leaving King to block Orakpo which blew up in our face.

If we're to have a winning season and get back to the playoffs, Whisenhunt has to show up every week. IMO his coaching staff waited way too long to make adjustments and a loss was the result.

IMO the Redskins are not a better team than us, but you wouldn't think that if you just watched yesterdays game.

Pretty much agree here.

However I would add Wells to the Good. I thought he had some really good runs yesterday.

Also I would single out Horton for the Bad. I don't think it's totally his fault with the shortened offseason and all but his defense is making too many mistakes and just looks confused out there. The worst part being that he was a Defensive Backs coach before becoming a DC.

 

[Crazy Canuck]

One can argue whether our OT's or QB are responsible for the sacks, but the bottomline is that we've given up 5 over two games.

Bears: 11
Seahawks: 10
Falcons: 09
Panthers: 08
Broncos: 07
Bengals: 06
Dolphins: 06
Steelers: 06
Forty-niners: 06

CARDS: 05 ---- tied with 5 other teams (with Monday night game to come)

 

[Krangodnzr]

Pretty much agree here.

However I would add Wells to the Good. I thought he had some really good runs yesterday.

Also I would single out Horton for the Bad. I don't think it's totally his fault with the shortened offseason and all but his defense is making too many mistakes and just looks confused out there. The worst part being that he was a Defensive Backs coach before becoming a DC.

I think Horton's issue is that he has to learn that this team is not going to get consistent pressure if we blitz all the time, and that we're leaving ourselves open to the pass too often when the blitz doesn't get there.

That's been my issue with Horton so far.

 

[Krangodnzr]

One can argue whether our OT's or QB are responsible for the sacks, but the bottomline is that we've given up 5 over two games.

Bears: 11
Seahawks: 10
Falcons: 09
Panthers: 08
Broncos: 07
Bengals: 06
Dolphins: 06
Steelers: 06
Forty-niners: 06

CARDS: 05 ---- tied with 5 other teams (with Monday night game to come)

I don't think sacks are necessarily the issue; the issue is pressure, which Kolb has been fairly decent at avoiding.

 

[conraddobler]

We're excessively pass happy which causes our TOP to be terrible and puts more pressure on our defense that frankly can't handle it.

A good dose of running the rock would cure most of what ails us.

Everyone knows we're pass happy this allows them to unleash ridiculous pass rushes.

Two things.

LEARN HOW TO EXECUTE A SCREEN PASS... "I think I'll be long dead before any Cardinal team ever consistently runs a good screen pass"

RUN THE BALL.

Beanie averaged over 6 yards a carry on the Redskins but only had 14 carries, he should of had 20 minimum.

I realize we might be short on guys to give him a rest but come on man, run the damn ball, that's what's letting the pass rush go bonkers on us we pass too much.

 

[kerouac9]

We're excessively pass happy which causes our TOP to be terrible and puts more pressure on our defense that frankly can't handle it.

A good dose of running the rock would cure most of what ails us.

Everyone knows we're pass happy this allows them to unleash ridiculous pass rushes.

Two things.

LEARN HOW TO EXECUTE A SCREEN PASS... "I think I'll be long dead before any Cardinal team ever consistently runs a good screen pass"

RUN THE BALL.

Beanie averaged over 6 yards a carry on the Redskins but only had 14 carries, he should of had 20 minimum.

I realize we might be short on guys to give him a rest but come on man, run the damn ball, that's what's letting the pass rush go bonkers on us we pass too much.

I don't really understand the structure of our run game. It's not like we really run the ball as part of our base offense (and this was true last year, too). It's like we look at our third offensive series and say, "Now we're going to run the ball." The series goes right down the field, and then they pass 2/3 of the next four series.

 

[Duckjake]

We're excessively pass happy which causes our TOP to be terrible and puts more pressure on our defense that frankly can't handle it.

Giving up 8:30 minute drives to opposing offenses doesn't help our TOP either. After our 2nd INT that the offense turned into a TD the D gives up an 8:15 minute drive to a Wash FG.

Next possession the Cards keep the ball for 4:10 which isn't bad. How does the Defense respond? By giving up an 80 TD drive in just 6 plays.

After we score to go up 21-13 what does the Defense do. Gives up a 13 play TD drive to make it 21-19.

The Redskins had the ball for 12 plays to open the friggin' game.

We just can't spin it any other way. Our Defense is awful.

 

[WildBB]

This is Brandon Keith's fourth season in the NFL. He got repeatedly put on roller skates by a rookie playing his 2nd NFL game.

Russ Grimm needs to be fired. Unfortunately, I'd guess that Whis stands by Grimm again this offseason when the front office turns to oust the Mean Joe Green of the offense.

This, it's beyond me how they go into this yr. with these two tackles in a pass oriented scheme!?!

 

[WildBB]

Our Defense is awful.

Losin D. Wash was critical this game and going forward imo. He's the play maker right now.

They better show up next week. The running D has been OK, the pass rush and coverage God awful.

 

[Krangodnzr]

I don't really understand the structure of our run game. It's not like we really run the ball as part of our base offense (and this was true last year, too). It's like we look at our third offensive series and say, "Now we're going to run the ball." The series goes right down the field, and then they pass 2/3 of the next four series.

It is quite odd now that you mention it.

Whisenhunt is one stubborn dude, that's for sure. It shows in how he runs his offense.

 

[Ouchie-Z-Clown]

A little chicken little here in my opinion.

1-You can't say that the offensive line had a terrible day when your 3 good players are a QB, RB and WR. Yes the offensive line once again leaves something to be desired in terms of talent, but it was far from awful. The Giants struggled against the front 7 of the Redskins if you remember week 1. Also keep in mind that the big hit on Kolb where he fumbled was the TE blocking.

2-The coaching (game plan) was not terrible, we just didn't execute. The entire first half our defense could not get off the field on 3rd down because of the individual execution of the players, not the coach. We stuffed Hightower early, and then wore down because we kept allowing drives to get extended with penalties or poor plays. As far as the offensive game plan, really? We had like 4 possessions if the first half,what was Whis going to do? When we finally did get some chances in the 2nd half, we put together drives and made a great adjustment on the fly when the Redskins got nicked up in the secondary. I have no problem with the game plan and mid game adjustments.

3-The penalties have to go. We aren't good enough to win despite them and must become better at limiting both penalties and turnovers.

so let me get this straight, it's not the players, it's not the coaches. either we won yesterday and i missed it, or you're saying we lost because of global warming.