Cards can sign vet free agents now and not lose Comp Picks

[az jam]

This is as of Monday, May 3rd. So Cards can now sign free agents and not lose their Comp picks for 2022.
The have $14 million in cap money. Another CB and TE are big needs.

Effective at 4 PM ET, (Monday) unrestricted free agents that sign with a new team no longer count towards the NFL’s compensatory pick formula.

 

[Cardiac]

Keim time.

RB, TE, and CB.

 

[Chopper0080]

Keim time.

RB, TE, and CB.

I expect WR, CB and TE

EDIT: more specifically

I expect

WR - Damiere Byrd (outside WR the team is familiar with)

TE - Darren Fells (another familiar face who has had success as a red zone target)

CB - Casey Hayward (versatile player who Vance is familiar going against)

 

[juza76]

I expect WR, CB and TE

I expect also a defensive lineman
The options there are better

 

[Chopper0080]

I expect also a defensive lineman
The options there are better

Good catch and I agree 100%. Peters and Atkins, possibly both.

 

[BritCard]

Good catch and I agree 100%. Peters and Atkins, possibly both.

Peters will almost certainly be back. I believe he's still working out at the Cards facility while rehabbing is knee. I'm sure they are just waiting on him being healthy.

 

[BritCard]

This is as of Monday, May 3rd. So Cards can now sign free agents and not lose their Comp picks for 2022.
The have $14 million in cap money. Another CB and TE are big needs.

Effective at 4 PM ET, (Monday) unrestricted free agents that sign with a new team no longer count towards the NFL’s compensatory pick formula.

Easily add another $7m to this with a June 1st designation on Kennard. Although our depth at the position sucks, that's just too much to pay him.

 

[az jam]

Peters will almost certainly be back. I believe he's still working out at the Cards facility while rehabbing is knee. I'm sure they are just waiting on him being healthy.

Hope you are right Peters is a solid contributor and good leader. The key will be his recovery form his knee injury. Just a minor point; I don't think he can work out at the Cards facility as he is a free agent.

 

[BritCard]

Hope you are right Peters is a solid contributor and good leader. The key will be his recovery form his knee injury. Just a minor point; I don't think he can work out at the Cards facility as he is a free agent.

I'm sure I saw him there in a recent video but may have been mistaken.

Does that rule change if you are injured? Seems harsh that you are robbed of facilities required to recover for an injury you sustained while playing.

 

[football karma]

Pharoh Cooper is out there. I thought he did a nice job when he was here -- and can give some help in the return game

 

[BritCard]

Pharoh Cooper is out there. I thought he did a nice job when he was here -- and can give some help in the return game

I don't see them signing another WR.

We have Nuk, Green, Kirk, Moore, Johnson, Isabella. They kept 6 last year and that's the 6 right now.

They couldn't move Isabella in a trade so I think they give him one more year to improve.

I'm not sure what Cooper would add? Both Kirk and Moore can return.

 

[Totally_Red]

I don't see them signing another WR.

We have Nuk, Green, Kirk, Moore, Johnson, Isabella. They kept 6 last year and that's the 6 right now.

They couldn't move Isabella in a trade so I think they give him one more year to improve.

I'm not sure what Cooper would add? Both Kirk and Moore can return.

I may be the only one, but I'd sure like to see what the new WR coach can do with Isabella. The possibility of an improved Isabella and Rondale Moore on the field together intrigues me.

Both Isabella and Kirk are so inconsistent it is frustrating. They are the wide receiver versions of Zane Gonzalez IMO.

 

[Chris_Sanders]

I expect WR, CB and TE

EDIT: more specifically

I expect

WR - Damiere Byrd (outside WR the team is familiar with)

TE - Darren Fells (another familiar face who has had success as a red zone target)

CB - Casey Hayward (versatile player who Vance is familiar going against)

Man I love Hayward.

 

[BritCard]

Man I love Hayward.

Rumors around he's in talks with the Raiders. But I'd love Hayward also.

 

[Cheesebeef]

I don't see them signing another WR.

We have Nuk, Green, Kirk, Moore, Johnson, Isabella. They kept 6 last year and that's the 6 right now.

They couldn't move Isabella in a trade so I think they give him one more year to improve.

I'm not sure what Cooper would add? Both Kirk and Moore can return.

Kirk can return if you want a guy who runs East-west and backwards on punts.

 

[BritCard]

Kirk can return if you want a guy who runs East-west and backwards on punts.

They have Moore too. I don't see them signing a guy just to return with those two already on the roster.

 

[az jam]

I'm sure I saw him there in a recent video but may have been mistaken.

Does that rule change if you are injured? Seems harsh that you are robbed of facilities required to recover for an injury you sustained while playing.

I don't know since he is no longer under contract there could be liability issues if he is re-injured?

 

[Cheesebeef]

They have Moore too. I don't see them signing a guy just to return with those two already on the roster.

they have one. Kirk has literally proven he can’t do the job.

 

[juza76]

Kirk can return if you want a guy who runs East-west and backwards on punts.

Kirk unfortunately doesn't like to get tackled
Keim mentioned the alpha dog mentality, that's not the case
If u don't want to get dirty u cant excell

 

[Son of RedRage]

Richard Sherman is on the market. Wouldn't mind signing him.

 

[Proximo]

they have one. Kirk has literally proven he can’t do the job.

That's really not true. By far the most important job of the punt returner is to consistently catch the ball. Kirk can do that.

He did only average 6 yds per return, which is one of the worst avg's for a primary punt returner in the league - but the average is like 10. The total punt return touchdowns all year was 8 for the whole league - no Returner had more than one.

The way I look at is if you have a very good offense an additional 5 yards per punt is really not a big deal, and is not going to cost you scores very often at all.

I am pretty sure Moore will be used as the return man - they even mentioned it while they were drafting him.

 

[BritCard]

That's really not true. By far the most important job of the punt returner is to consistently catch the ball. Kirk can do that.

He did only average 6 yds per return, which is one of the worst avg's for a primary punt returner in the league - but the average is like 10. The total punt return touchdowns all year was 8 for the whole league - no Returner had more than one.

The way I look at is if you have a very good offense an additional 5 yards per punt is really not a big deal, and is not going to cost you scores very often at all.

I am pretty sure Moore will be used as the return man - they even mentioned it while they were drafting him.

Agreed, and while I agree Kirk isn't a great returner you also have to factor in the situations too. A good defense that's going to force more punts deep in a teams own half are going to force more deep punts while allow the returner more space to return.

Teams with lesser defenses where teams are punting more often from the 50 and going to be high and short and less returnable.

 

[overseascardfan]

Not sure why now makes a difference for guys like Nelson and Hayward who were released thus do not count against comp pick calculation.

The only reason why Nelson should still be available is because
1. He wants too much money
2. Teams waited until after draft to see if they still need a CB.

I can't imagine Nelson thinking he deserves north of $10M but maybe because he had better seasons than Peterson & Griffin PFF grade wise and is under 30 he is overvaluing himself.

 

[DVontel]

Idk how one can defend Kirk at all after that Patriots game tbh

 

[az jam]

That's really not true. By far the most important job of the punt returner is to consistently catch the ball. Kirk can do that.

He did only average 6 yds per return, which is one of the worst avg's for a primary punt returner in the league - but the average is like 10. The total punt return touchdowns all year was 8 for the whole league - no Returner had more than one.

The way I look at is if you have a very good offense an additional 5 yards per punt is really not a big deal, and is not going to cost you scores very often at all.

I am pretty sure Moore will be used as the return man - they even mentioned it while they were drafting him.

For me the main thing on a punt return is not to fumble or lose yards. Anything else is a plus. However in Patrick Peterson's rookie year he was phenomenal!!