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Players the Cardinals have shown interest in to date:

1. C Andre Gurode (DAL): RE-SIGNED with Dallas.

2. G/T Derrick Dockery (WASH): signed with Buffalo (7 yrs./$48M).

3. TE Reggie Kelly (CIN). Visited and left for other visits. Has an offer on the table from Atlanta. Cincinnati has expressed interest in re-signing him. Is visiting with Oakland today. Seems made to order for what the Cardinals need: a good blocking TE. Better option? There's one...Daniel Graham (NE)...very good blocker---much better receiver than Kelly. Wants a $4-5M/yr. contract. Is he worth it? IMO, yes.

4. G/T Mike Gandy (BUF). Visited and said he wants to play in Arizona and has been staying in town to get a deal done. Is he a good pickup? Good for depth...questionable as a starter at LT (was relegated to guard by the Bills after giving up numerous sacks last season)...could push Milford Brown and Deuce Lutui for time at guard...Better options? Yes. Luke Pettigout (NYG) is a LT...has had false start issues, but has played reasonably well at times when healthy. Marc Colombo (DAL) is a monster RT...the team could switch Reggie Wells over to LT. Kenyatta Walker (TB) is coming off an injury...if he's healthy, he's a talented RT.

5. C/G Al Johnson (DAL). Visited and is awaiting a deal. Good pickup? Yes. An injury cost him his starting job in Dallas...he has some upside and can challenge Nick Leckey at center and Brown and Lutui at guard. Better option? With C Ryan Kalil of USC expected to be off the board by the #38 pick, signing Johnson would be a good move and he is certainly an upgrade over Alex Stepanvich.

6. S Kevin Kaesviharn (CIN). Visited and bolted off for New Orleans, and has stated that he may re-sign with the Bengals. Good pickup? he is exactly the ballhawking centerfielder the Cardinals need for their Cover 2 defense...even if he doesn't start over Aaron Francisco, who is a better hitter, Kaes can come in in passing situations and take care of his half of the field. Better option? Ken Hamiln perhaps, but surprisingly the Cardinals haven't shown any interest in him to date. In the draft, FS LaRon Landry, who is now #6 on Mel Kiper's board is possibly the one sure-fire Pro Bowler in this draft. However, should the Cards outbid the others for Kaes? If they want to pass on Landry at #5, yes. The need is too great not to.

7. CB Roderick Hood (PHI). Young fiesty CB who visited and left town. Would push Eric Green for the starting RCB position and bolster the special teams in coverage and possibly on punt returns. Good pickup? Yes, particularly at his age and experience...he could really blossom here.

8. FB Vonta Leach (TEX). First to visit...RFA...with low tender and no compensation, just right of matching the Cardinals' offer. Thus far...no offer reported. Good pickup? yes. A real need and this kid has upside.

9. CB Travis Fisher (STL). Visiting today. Can really cover, but can't seem to stay healthy. Good pickup? Yes, if signed to an incentive laden deal based on playing time and production.

What's wrong with this picture?

No true Ts or OLBers in to date at areas of significant need.
 

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4. G/T Mike Gandy (BUF). could push Milford Brown and Deuce Lutui for time at guard...

6. S Kevin Kaesviharn (CIN). he is exactly the ballhawking centerfielder the Cardinals need for their Cover 2 defense...


I would be sick if we replaced either Brown or Lutui for Gandy. Don't stunt these guys growth for a loser like Gandy...if you want to replace Lutui...let it be for Pro Bowler Ruben Brown. He is an upgrade and can actually teach these young G's some things.

Did we change to a cover 2/tampa D? I missed that and if that is the case, then Cato June is perfect for us.
 

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I would be sick if we replaced either Brown or Lutui for Gandy. Don't stunt these guys growth for a loser like Gandy...if you want to replace Lutui...let it be for Pro Bowler Ruben Brown. He is an upgrade and can actually teach these young G's some things.

Did we change to a cover 2/tampa D? I missed that and if that is the case, then Cato June is perfect for us.

Why keep Pendy and then switch to a different defense? That doesn't make sense.
 

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I am asking if we changed as Mitch has said...I didn't hear that.

No, but we do play some Cover-2 packages in the Niclkel, when the 2 free safeties (last season it was Francisco and Griffith) played deep coverage while the corners played man.

We played a lot of Cover-3 base defense last season, which I think is the reason why our corners were playing so far off their men. But if you're asking whether we were coverting to the Tampa-2 defensive system--no, at least not yet.
 
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I would be sick if we replaced either Brown or Lutui for Gandy. Don't stunt these guys growth for a loser like Gandy...if you want to replace Lutui...let it be for Pro Bowler Ruben Brown. He is an upgrade and can actually teach these young G's some things.

Did we change to a cover 2/tampa D? I missed that and if that is the case, then Cato June is perfect for us.

Pendy runs the standard Cover 2 defense...2 safeties covering deep halves of the field (with zone or man under)...which is why we struggled with Griffith in that role because he lacked the range and speed to break on the deep ball. Kaes has the range...and anticipates well.
 
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Apparently, according to Kent Somers, the Cardinals will be announcing the signing of C Al Johnson within an hour or two.

Somers went on to say that Johnson will compete with Nick Leckey, but would have the edge since he was signed as a free agent (he's probably speculating here...Leckey was tendered at $1.3M for a good reason, IMO).

Whis has said he will play the best five players even if it means shuffling them around into the right fits...so, it should be interesting. Johnson is 6-5, 318...wonder if he can play tackle?
 

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Pendy runs the standard Cover 2 defense...2 safeties covering deep halves of the field (with zone or man under)...which is why we struggled with Griffith in that role because he lacked the range and speed to break on the deep ball. Kaes has the range...and anticipates well.

Then why is Cato June not in AZ?

113 tackles a yr and can cover...
 

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Whis has said he will play the best five players even if it means shuffling them around into the right fits.

I wonder how many weeks it will take for them to figure out what the best OL is, we saw what happened last year when they settled on one and stuck with it as compared to the shuffling we saw in the first half of the season.

So far so...blah. Johnson is an upgrade over Stepanovich, hopefully Leckey gets a legit shot to keep his starting spot and Johnson doesn't get it handed to him because he was our "marquee" free agent.
 

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Then why is Cato June not in AZ?

113 tackles a yr and can cover...

Because Mitch doesn't know what he's talking about. . . Yes, Griffith played a lot of deep zones last season, but who was the other deep safety? It certainly wasn't Adrian Wilson.

The Cards played a lot of Cover-3 last season, and very little actual cover-2. If the Cards played a legit Tampa-2 defense, our corners wouldn't have been nearly as exposed as they were.
 

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Somers went on to say that Johnson will compete with Nick Leckey, but would have the edge since he was signed as a free agent (he's probably speculating here...Leckey was tendered at $1.3M for a good reason, IMO).

Whis has said he will play the best five players even if it means shuffling them around into the right fits...so, it should be interesting. Johnson is 6-5, 318...wonder if he can play tackle?

Competition is good.

His draft profile lists him at 6-3 1/2 305. Unless he is taking HGH, he probably isn't 6-5 and he has only played inside G/C at Wisconsin and Dallas.

Let's get true T's to play T. The reason G's are G's is because they can't play T...just like why CB's are not WR's...they can't catch (generally).
 

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No true Ts or OLBers in to date at areas of significant need.

That is the most interesting item to come out of this offseason so far.

Could they have seen something at the combine they really liked with the LB and OT group?

Also something that seems to be lacking from rumors is DT - Ian Scott. We were rumored to have interest in him and Scott hasnt visisted anywhere yet.
 

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Competition is good.

His draft profile lists him at 6-3 1/2 305. Unless he is taking HGH, he probably isn't 6-5 and he has only played inside G/C at Wisconsin and Dallas.

Let's get true T's to play T. The reason G's are G's is because they can't play T...just like why CB's are not WR's...they can't catch (generally).

Holy crap...The Cards could end up with two Wicsonsin OL after draft day? What's the world coming too? :sarcasm:

I can't believe that nobody on the board has lambasted Johnson for being a Wisconsin OL yet.
 

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Joeshmo: This is our list of linebackers...I assume only two are guaranteed keepers:

Gerald hayes
Karlos Dansby

The rest....
Calvin Pace, Brandon Johnson, Darryl Blackstock

So....I am wondering if someone thinks one of these three has alot of potential?

Strictly based on past performance...Darling and beisel (they were let go) appear to be better players than Pace, Johnson and Blackstock....but the latter three have very little experience (Pace has little linebacker experience)...but obviously age was an issue for Darling....so past performance is hard to judge on the three "the rest" players...not much to go on.

Blackstock was rumored to be a big disappointment..... What is also questionable is who is our backup to Hayes? We do not exactly have a veteran like Darling we can plug into all three positions. Blackstock is listed on the Cardinals website as a OLB....Johnson is a LB....but maybe Blackstock is interchangeable......I thought Johnson was clearly an outside linebacker....not inside.
 
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4. G/T Mike Gandy (BUF). Visited and said he wants to play in Arizona and has been staying in town to get a deal done.....
Someone on the Al Johnson Signing thread mentioned a radio report that Gandy left the Valley in a huff.

Is this true? Can someone provide us with valid updated info on Gandy?
 

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Someone on the Al Johnson Signing thread mentioned a radio report that Gandy left the Valley in a huff.

Is this true? Can someone provide us with valid updated info on Gandy?

Oh geez.

All I said was "HOPEFULLY" Gandy left town in a huff. Then, about five posts later I said, in response to pinnacle, that it was nothing I had heard, just my own wish.


Again, if we sign Gandy, and we will for all I know, I hope he plays lights out and makes me look bad for thinking he's pretty sucky.
 

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Joeshmo: This is our list of linebackers...I assume only two are guaranteed keepers:

Gerald hayes
Karlos Dansby

The rest....
Calvin Pace, Brandon Johnson, Darryl Blackstock

So....I am wondering if someone thinks one of these three has alot of potential?

Strictly based on past performance...Darling and beisel (they were let go) appear to be better players than Pace, Johnson and Blackstock....but the latter three have very little experience (Pace has little linebacker experience)...but obviously age was an issue for Darling....so past performance is hard to judge on the three "the rest" players...not much to go on.

Blackstock was rumored to be a big disappointment..... What is also questionable is who is our backup to Hayes? We do not exactly have a veteran like Darling we can plug into all three positions. Blackstock is listed on the Cardinals website as a OLB....Johnson is a LB....but maybe Blackstock is interchangeable......I thought Johnson was clearly an outside linebacker....not inside.

They are free agents and still could be re-signed.
 
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