Cards Releasing Kerry Rhodes

[Buckybird]

. I somehow doubt, however, that a post 30 safety is going to garner the coin you suggest.

I'll bet that

 

[Duckjake]

I'm simply asking, Chopper. He didn't make any silly prediction that I was reacting too. There's a difference. I somehow doubt, however, that a post 30 safety is going to garner the coin you suggest.

No there's not. You asked Chopper for a guarantee and then said guarantees couldn't buy a pint.

Now that I know you are Crazy Canuck in disguise time to put you back on ignore.

 

[GuernseyCard]

No there's not. You asked Chopper for a guarantee and then said guarantees couldn't buy a pint.

Now that I know you are Crazy Canuck in disguise time to put you back on ignore.

Second time you've made this reference and I don't know of whom you speak. But, by all means, place me on ignore although I don't know what I've said that is particularly offensive.

 

[NJCardFan]

Imagine if we get Nnamdi or Cason and Ed Reed. Whoa cartwheel time, Id buy the jersey tomorrow.

If we sign Nnamdi, I'm taking the year off.

 

[Shane]

If we sign Nnamdi, I'm taking the year off.

LMAO.... He SUCKS! AGREE!

 

[LoyaltyisaCurse]

The Cardinals are ***** to the fans and we are all left with battered spouse sydrome. We all continue to come back thinking things will change for the better.

The Cards are Chris Brown to our Rhianna...shine bright *******!

 

[Capital Card]

I think the new coaches have really been studying the tapes and are weeding out those guys who they don't feel plays to their expected level or won't fit in their scheme. This is probably a good thing for us for a change. We have been losing with the same old guys for long enough.

I disagree. We offered to extend Rhodes contract and lower his cap number. You don't do that to a guy that doesn't fit your scheme... Especially when Arians forte is designing his system around the players he has.

This was a move of getting rid of guys unlikely to buy in. It's the same play call that Bruce used to get rid of Horton. Don't keep any leaders around that disgruntled "younger" players can flock to.

I kind of understand the AW move. I'd have preferred to re-sign Toler, but don't fault us for not keeping him. This move, to me, is a step backwards. I don't like it.

Go Cards!!!

 

[kerouac9]

The final 53 man roster is set at the end of August. We'll see.

You understand this is verbatim what Rod Graves said on the eve of the 3-13 season that lead to the drafting of Larry Fitzgerald, right?

 

[SECTION 11]

You understand this is verbatim what Rod Graves said on the eve of the 3-13 season that lead to the drafting of Larry Fitzgerald, right?

That is a classic quote right there.

 

[GuernseyCard]

You understand this is verbatim what Rod Graves said on the eve of the 3-13 season that lead to the drafting of Larry Fitzgerald, right?

The point is still valid.

 

[RugbyMuffin]

Buy into what? A 2-14 season? What kind of veteran player wouldn't be excited about that.

Buy into the new system and new staff. That is quite obvious when reading that statement, BTW.

If he doesn't want to go through next season that his his decision.

Ed, what? You though this team was going to the playoffs after last year ? Seriously ?

 

[RugbyMuffin]

You understand this is verbatim what Rod Graves said on the eve of the 3-13 season that lead to the drafting of Larry Fitzgerald, right?

So, you are saying that he said that before we draft are great player the following year ?

Sweet. So, ominous foreshadowing of the drafting of Teddy Bridgewater.

 

[kerouac9]

The point is still valid.

Valid in introducing a season of unwatchable, terrible football.

The fact of the matter is that while some teams can be overrated based on their free agent activities, very few are underrated based on them. I can't remember a time when a team spent a ton of money on free agents no one had heard of, then said, "Well, we like these guys, give them a chance," and then it ended well.

We're saying the same things about Lorenzo Alexander that we said three years ago about Stewart Bradley.

We're saying the same things about Jerraud Powers that we said about William Gay.

We're saying the same things about Drew Stanton that we said about Derek Anderson.

Yes, we're not going to see the product on the field until August. But if you don't want anyone to judge the product on the field until August, dont' visit a message board.

If you want to defend the free agency moves of the Arizona Cardinals making an affirmative case that this team is better on the field than on the balance sheet, I'd love to hear it. But it's telling that even the most committed apologists for the organization are just saying, "Well, we're going to suck, but MAYBE we'll be good in the future!"

Two years is an ETERNITY in the NFL. Two years ago Kevin Kolb was Matt Schaub with higher upside and the answer to the Cards' quarterback problems. Him and Larry Fitzgerald were going to go to the hall of fame together.

 

[football karma]

Valid in introducing a season of unwatchable, terrible football.

The fact of the matter is that while some teams can be overrated based on their free agent activities, very few are underrated based on them. I can't remember a time when a team spent a ton of money on free agents no one had heard of, then said, "Well, we like these guys, give them a chance," and then it ended well.

We're saying the same things about Lorenzo Alexander that we said three years ago about Stewart Bradley.

We're saying the same things about Jerraud Powers that we said about William Gay.

We're saying the same things about Drew Stanton that we said about Derek Anderson.

Yes, we're not going to see the product on the field until August. But if you don't want anyone to judge the product on the field until August, dont' visit a message board.

If you want to defend the free agency moves of the Arizona Cardinals making an affirmative case that this team is better on the field than on the balance sheet, I'd love to hear it. But it's telling that even the most committed apologists for the organization are just saying, "Well, we're going to suck, but MAYBE we'll be good in the future!"

Two years is an ETERNITY in the NFL. Two years ago Kevin Kolb was Matt Schaub with higher upside and the answer to the Cards' quarterback problems. Him and Larry Fitzgerald were going to go to the hall of fame together.

I think this is fair.

I also think the new reality has revealed itself. When Steve Keim said he didnt think the roster needed to be rebuilt, just retooled -- his nose grew an inch or two.

Look at the contracts being given to these guys: 1 and 3 year deals. No long term commitments.

High dollar guys 30 and over? gone. I think the dead money hit is the only thing keeping College and Synder, and if they draft a guard high, one or both will likely be released by camp.

 

[Russ Smith]

I disagree. We offered to extend Rhodes contract and lower his cap number. You don't do that to a guy that doesn't fit your scheme... Especially when Arians forte is designing his system around the players he has.

This was a move of getting rid of guys unlikely to buy in. It's the same play call that Bruce used to get rid of Horton. Don't keep any leaders around that disgruntled "younger" players can flock to.

I kind of understand the AW move. I'd have preferred to re-sign Toler, but don't fault us for not keeping him. This move, to me, is a step backwards. I don't like it.

Go Cards!!!

Exactly, people act like they don't know the reality of what the Cards offered Rhodes. Basically we said you take less money for a longer contract, but you'll never actually see the end of that contract.

Sure we can argue if Rhodes is overpaid or not I would argue on a bad team EVERYONE is overpaid, because the team is bad.

But as K9 said in another thread, right now we appear to have dismantled the strength of the team to save money. Maybe we can rebuild it for less, I certainly hope so, but it's not a step forward unless you make the TEAM better by doing it.

Hopefully the cost cutting will eventually result in us getting better, but right now it doesn't look like that'll happen this year.

The fact of the matter is Rhodes has been one of the best players on our defense since he arrived. If the Cards felt he wasn't buying in maybe they should take a look at how they handled the coaching search and realize that maybe just maybe they did a poor job of that such that they fractured the clubhouse. Not saying they had to hire Horton because the players wanted it just saying they did a poor job of seeing that was going to happen and trying to circumvent it, hell we were talking about that on this board as it was going on clearly they must have realized they were setting up a scenario where players were going to be pissed that horton is gone.

 

[football karma]

The fact of the matter is Rhodes has been one of the best players on our defense since he arrived. If the Cards felt he wasn't buying in

I think the move was less about if Kerry was buying in or not -- they really have no way of knowing since coach / player contact is limited by the new CBA until April or something --

I think it was all about the fact that he was going to be gone after this year.

if the team is on a "three year plan" ( and I think it is), there is no point in keeping an expensive player over 30 who wasn't going to be on the roster after this coming season.

 

[Russ Smith]

I think the move was less about if Kerry was buying in or not -- they really have no way of knowing since coach / player contact is limited by the new CBA until April or something --

I think it was all about the fact that he was going to be gone after this year.

if the team is on a "three year plan" ( and I think it is), there is no point in keeping an expensive player over 30 who wasn't going to be on the roster after this coming season.

Sure there is if you want to win some games.

The Cards wanted him to take less money and commit to more years, he didn't want to be here so he said no. That's how it's being sold in the media, but the he didn't want to be here is very likely really I'm not stupid I know I'll never see the end of that contract so just cut me and let me find a new team on my own.

The reality is when I woke up this morning on paper the Cards secondary is significantly worse than it was when I woke up yesterday morning. Remember we signed Yeremiah Bell, not Dashon Goldson, we got worse.

I'm torn on Wilson he had a great career, sad to see him go, but he was past his prime. But Rhodes is still a good player that could have helped us win some games.

I just hope that eventually we use the money we're saving to rebuild the team, I'm sure that's the plan.

I just hope the young guys on the defense like PP and D Wash aren't going to have become "cardinalized" before that happens.

 

[Shane]

"Playing with the Cardinals has been one of the most rewarding experiences of my career. I want to thank my coaches, teammates and Arizona fans everywhere for making the last three years truly remarkable. Change is always exciting and I'm optimistic about what the future holds. Wherever I go or whatever I do, I look forward to working hard and giving 110%, as always."

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[Duckjake]

"Playing with the Cardinals has been one of the most rewarding experiences of my career. I want to thank my coaches, teammates and Arizona fans everywhere for making the last three years truly remarkable. Change is always exciting and I'm optimistic about what the future holds. Wherever I go or whatever I do, I look forward to working hard and giving 110%, as always."

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It's in the CBA that players have to wait a year before they can start ripping their former team.