Cards strike out at QB

[Finito]

Next year is supposed to be the strongest QB draft class ever.

 

[Harry]

I know it won't be popular but this was the right decision. Giving away draft picks to get one of these QBs should never have been an option. We'll likely never know but I'd love to find out what the Cards would have done if one fell to them. Their picks may not have always been my choice, but this was a well crafted draft. I'm worried about the corner, but they added athleticism and strengthened some weak areas. Only Holden was a pick I would class as weak. Every one of the others should contribute in 2017. Surely all but Holden make the team. SK did a fine job.

 

[Finito]

There's still a chance that Chad Kelly goes undrafted. If I were Keim, I'd be on the horn with him now telling him that if no team drafts him that they will sign him right away.

Dude he sucks let it go.

 

[Buckybird]

After we didn't have a shot at the top three guys, our search for a QB of the future was all but canceled. Kizer has the tools, but it's clear we didn't think he had "it."

But Webb, Peterman, etc. were nothing but the backups of the future. I too hope Chad Kelly slips and comes in as an undrafted guy, but there's a full round to go.

2018 is going to be a terrifying offseason, and the realist in me thinks we'll end up being the loser of that offseason, and watching very poor, hamstringing QB play for a few years after.

We still don't know that Palmer is done after this season, so it's not all caskets & funerals yet

 

[jbeecham]

Stafford's contract is up after this season too... he likely gets an extension, but maybe Detroit screws up.

 

[Buckybird]

Dude he sucks let it go.

Yep! Too many peeps get excited about his name & a few games against Bama & that's not even talking about his crazy off the field crap

 

[Dude]

I thought so, none were worth it - Chad Kelly was the best risk and release option but he is hurt for next year too. Let's forget about Palmer for a minute and think what fa QBs can upgrade Stanton? Against popular belief I like Brock - will need more than a year to adjust - Texans were too impatient - he had a winning record - all the others over last few years didn't - but some will be released and at least know what NFL offense looks like - and BA and Moore know who and what they need

I could have won games playing with the D they had that year.

 

[Buckybird]

Stafford's contract is up after this season too... he likely gets an extension, but maybe Detroit screws up.

Dreaming is free

Name the last really good young QB who wasn't hurt that could play that didn't get extended?

 

[az jam]

I know it won't be popular but this was the right decision. Giving away draft picks to get one of these QBs should never have been an option. We'll likely never know but I'd love to find out what the Cards would have done if one fell to them. Their picks may not have always been my choice, but this was a well crafted draft. I'm worried about the corner, but they added athleticism and strengthened some weak areas. Only Holden was a pick I would class as weak. Every one of the others should contribute in 2017. Surely all but Holden make the team. SK did a fine job.

Again, I do like the draft. I also realize that this is not a good draft class for qbs. My concern is that we have no one being developed to take over when Palmer leaves which probably is after the 2017 season. I also hate the message of wait till next year as it will be better to get a qb.

 

[Sunburn]

I also hate the message of wait till next year as it will be better to get a qb.

Why? Waiting until next year for a guy less likely to bust makes sense to me.

 

[Solar7]

I don't think they wanted any of these QBs by the way they treated the draft. They did two trades today in other rounds. Went nuts for Budda. If they felt that one of the 'top' three was the one, they would have traded to get him

I still think we would have drafted Watson or Mahomes if they fell. Unfortunately I think the price became too rich to move up. Both teams that moved back received a first round pick, and it of course was not worth our first rounder next year to move up 1-3 picks.

Meh. Draft a guy next year in an expected much stronger QB class. If we have to, pick up the league bicycle Brian Hoyer, and have the rook study him for a season. Other options as well, like going out and getting Glennon after he gets Trubisky'd, etc.

This is a playoff team. We're going to be drafting in the back third of the draft. It's going to take a ton of capital to move up and hand the reigns to a guy who has never taken a snap. There's no margin for error now, no time for the guy to redshirt, unless, yeah, you want to spend a year watching Hoyerball.

Or tab Garoppolo/Cousins to be the highest paid QB in NFL history. (Likely including picks, for Jimmy G.) Ugh.

I'm just bitching for the sake of bitching here, there wasn't anything we could do, but this team better win the Super Bowl this year so I can be okay with not contending for a few years, haha.

 

[Buckybird]

I know it won't be popular but this was the right decision. Giving away draft picks to get one of these QBs should never have been an option. We'll likely never know but I'd love to find out what the Cards would have done if one fell to them. Their picks may not have always been my choice, but this was a well crafted draft. I'm worried about the corner, but they added athleticism and strengthened some weak areas. Only Holden was a pick I would class as weak. Every one of the others should contribute in 2017. Surely all but Holden make the team. SK did a fine job.

The team diffantely got faster, more athletic, versatile & nastier!!! Our secondary IMO will be better than 2015 if Bethel/Williams improve but it might not be until 2018 as well. "IF" is a big word I know

 

[Dude]

Again, I do like the draft. I also realize that this is not a good draft class for qbs. My concern is that we have no one being developed to take over when Palmer leaves which probably is after the 2017 season. I also hate the message of wait till next year as it will be better to get a qb.

I hate that too. But man look at the team we have now. We don't need at top QB. IMO we give up the farm for one but now we can and still be more than a QB. All we need now this year or next is a free agent CB. I went from this stinks to very pleased.

 

[Solar7]

We still don't know that Palmer is done after this season, so it's not all caskets & funerals yet

It is absolutely silly to think there is anything but a razor thin chance Palmer is returning. You don't take a month to determine if you're coming back and then return the next year AFTER your hall of fame receiver is retiring himself.

 

[Dude]

It is absolutely silly to think there is anything but a razor thin chance Palmer is returning. You don't take a month to determine if you're coming back and then return the next year AFTER your hall of fame receiver is retiring himself.

If we have a bad year he's gone. If we win it all he's gone. I don't see more than just a very small chance he is back after this year.

 

[Sunburn]

This is a playoff team. We're going to be drafting in the back third of the draft. It's going to take a ton of capital to move up and hand the reigns to a guy who has never taken a snap. There's no margin for error now, no time for the guy to redshirt, unless, yeah, you want to spend a year watching Hoyerball.

Or tab Garoppolo/Cousins to be the highest paid QB in NFL history. (Likely including picks, for Jimmy G.) Ugh.

I'm just bitching for the sake of bitching here, there wasn't anything we could do, but this team better win the Super Bowl this year so I can be okay with not contending for a few years, haha.

Next year is a much stronger QB class. You target a guy in that draft, and if you have to, you move up to get him. Or, stand pat and take the guy that slides. You don't try to polish a turd in this year's class. That's just going to set you back farther because you've committed yourself to a sub-par prospect.

 

[cardncubfan]

No sense in wasting resources on a QB that you don't feel will be your starting future QB.

 

[THESMEL]

I could have won games playing with the D they had that year.

So your the king and the master of the universe? Haha come on man Brock could compete against Stanton and if he had as many years in BA's system as Stanton - he would be serviceable - like he was in Denver - he took the money and the expectations- and everybody else would have too - I just don't think one year is enough in today's NFL - except for a handful of elite veteran QBs- it's the Texans not Brock that deserve the black eye

 

[az jam]

We do have a good team and as I said its all or nothing for 2017. IMO we will be exactly where we were when Warner retired. Keim has always talked about the importance of drafting and developing a qb. In fact he said, when he became General Manager, that we should take a qb every draft as it's the mot important position on the team.

He is not following his own philosophy.

 

[Solar7]

Next year is a much stronger QB class. You target a guy in that draft, and if you have to, you move up to get him. Or, stand pat and take the guy that slides. You don't try to polish a turd in this year's class. That's just going to set you back farther because you've committed yourself to a sub-par prospect.

I have a feeling that by next year we'll be saying that all of the QBs suck besides whoever is going to go #1 and #2, who we won't have a chance in hell at, because SF and NYJ will probably be sitting there. It's just the way every year goes. I agree that "polishing a turd" is a bad idea and was our only option this year.

But I'm frustrated that we have absolutely no shot at being a team with a low-cost, talented QB, like the Seahawks were for years, and Dallas now is.

 

[outcent13]

The way I see it if palmer retires then fitz probably goes with him. Not saying he definitely will but he very well may. That alone frees up close to 35 million in cap space. Also the cards have positioned themselves to make cuts on the oline(iupati and veldheer) next year that will free up more space. It very well may be a rebuild year but there will be options... heck if they have to trade up similarly to what the chiefs and Texans did then so be it.

 

[Dude]

So your the king and the master of the universe? Haha come on man Brock could compete against Stanton and if he had as many years in BA's system as Stanton - he would be serviceable - like he was in Denver - he took the money and the expectations- and everybody else would have too - I just don't think one year is enough in today's NFL - except for a handful of elite veteran QBs- it's the Texans not Brock that deserve the black eye

No I'm not but that D was that year. He might be better than Stanton but you do know how much they each get paid right? Nether is a one so I will take the guy that wins and doesn't kill our cap to back up. Now if he got cut I could see bringing him in for a look.

 

[THESMEL]

We do have a good team and as I said its all or nothing for 2017. IMO we will be exactly where we were when Warner retired. Keim has always talked about the importance of drafting and developing a qb. In fact he said, when he became General Manager, that we should take a qb every draft as it's the mot important position on the team.

In fairness cards have brought in decent fa QBs ( not Logan Thomas) and kicked their tires - I thought Barkley had a chance to stick last year - but if they can't beat out Stanton for number 2 - Stanton starts after Palmer IMO

 

[az jam]

But I'm frustrated that we have absolutely no shot at being a team with a low-cost, talented QB, like the Seahawks were for years, and Dallas now is.

They were willing to gamble on a qb even though others thought it's a reach.

 

[overseascardfan]

There are number of reasons ARZ passed on a QB:
1. Much better class next year.
2. QBOF is in the NFL already.
3. Chances are BA retires after this year.
4. New HC is going to draft his guy not be saddled with someone else's guy.

I am much more pissed about BASK being cool with a Williams / Bethel train wreck at #2 CB next year thus totally ignoring the position this off season.