Cards strike out at QB

[Cardiac]

Thank you. I thought I was the only person who thinks that it isn't a guarantee that Palmer is leaving next year.

If Palmer doesn't have a major injury this year and we win 10 or more games I fully expect him to play at least in 2018. He loves the game, the prep, the grind and his teammates so much and only when his body doesn't heal up at the end of a season will he hang them up.

 

[az jam]

Man, I cannot WAIT until the people that keeps throwing out the same ole redundant "This QB class was weak, next years is much stronger" statement use the same exact excuse next year around this time.

Thank you. That is exactly the point I wanted to make when I posted this thread. We are not developing a qb to take Palmers place. BASK and many on this board are making excuses while other teams are picking qbs in the draft to take the place of their starters. Ten qbs were taken in this years draft. None by the Cardinals.

 

[DVontel]

Last year, did anyone ever describe this year's QB class as strong?

Yes. Watson, Kaaya, & Kizer were heralded as top 15 picks.

So far, Darnold, Josh Allen, & Lamar Jackson are pretty much in the same line for next year. Scouts will get much more time to pick them apart like they do every year while 2 of the 3 will probably regress. Then, when the draft comes roaming around, people will throw the same ole tired a** statement about "This QB class is weak, let's wait until next year."

 

[Ouchie-Z-Clown]

Yes. Watson, Kaaya, & Kizer were heralded as top 15 picks.

So far, Darnold, Josh Allen, & Lamar Jackson are pretty much in the same line for next year. Scouts will get much more time to pick them apart like they do every year while 2 of the 3 will probably regress. Then, when the draft comes roaming around, people will throw the same ole tired a** statement about "This QB class is weak, let's wait until next year."

I don't think Lamar Jackson will be that highly touted unless his mechanics improve measurably.

 

[TJ]

Man, I cannot WAIT until the people that keeps throwing out the same ole redundant "This QB class was weak, next years is much stronger" statement use the same exact excuse next year around this time.

Next years class has three QBs who should be Top 10 picks and are legit Top 10 picks, not overvalued mid-tier guys pushed up due to low supply/high demand.

 

[LoyaltyisaCurse]

I like the draft but am very disappointing that the Cards did not draft a qb. They could have had Kizer in the 2nd, Davis Webb in the 3rd, Dobbs in the 4th or Peterman in the 5th. All the talk to have a qb sit behind and learn from Palmer was BS. It's all or nothing for the 2017 season. We will be scrambling again when Palmer retires.

Cards prefer rent-A-geezer.

 

[DVontel]

Next years class has three QBs who should be Top 10 picks and are legit Top 10 picks, not overvalued mid-tier guys pushed up due to low supply/high demand.

Name them please & how are you sure?

 

[LoyaltyisaCurse]

Next years class has three QBs who should be Top 10 picks and are legit Top 10 picks, not overvalued mid-tier guys pushed up due to low supply/high demand.

So the only way we get them is if we suck.

We sucked last season and had a chance for Watson, but too shy to move up.

 

[gmabel830]

Yes. Watson, Kaaya, & Kizer were heralded as top 15 picks.

So far, Darnold, Josh Allen, & Lamar Jackson are pretty much in the same line for next year. Scouts will get much more time to pick them apart like they do every year while 2 of the 3 will probably regress. Then, when the draft comes roaming around, people will throw the same ole tired a** statement about "This QB class is weak, let's wait until next year."

Jackson might not end up at QB at the next level... and Josh Rosen is currently considered the second best prospect behind Darnold.. but you are right a lot can change in a year.

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[DVontel]

Jackson might not end up at QB at the next level... and Josh Rosen is currently considered the second best prospect behind Darnold.. but you are right a lot can change in a year.

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I didn't name Rosen because he was horrible before he sat out the rest of the season due to injury, but I'll cut him a little bit of slack due to changing OCs before last season.

 

[Buckybird]

Thank you. That is exactly the point I wanted to make when I posted this thread. We are not developing a qb to take Palmers place. BASK and many on this board are making excuses while other teams are picking qbs in the draft to take the place of their starters. Ten qbs were taken in this years draft. None by the Cardinals.

Again, you DONT DRAFT a QB just for the sake of drafting one!!!

The 2 guys they obviously liked went off the board early because of trades & Keim didn't want to give up all that draft capital & sacrificing players that can help them win this year. This isn't a 5-11 football team & it has enough talent to compete for the SB if they don't choke away games like in 2016.

They made moves to acquire some of these draft picks & if they would've had enough faith or belief in Kizer, Webb, etc they would've made that move. They didn't so onto 2017

 

[Sunburn]

DVontel do you think this was a good QB class?

 

[Hollywood]

Thank you. That is exactly the point I wanted to make when I posted this thread. We are not developing a qb to take Palmers place. BASK and many on this board are making excuses while other teams are picking qbs in the draft to take the place of their starters. Ten qbs were taken in this years draft. None by the Cardinals.

Ok, lets look at the 10 teams that are "developing" qb's to take the place of their starters.

KC is, imo, the only team that is actually grooming their pick to take over for their starter. While smith isn't a bad qb he obviously isn't going to with them a title.

the steelers have ben playing at least another year and probably longer didn't draft a qb until the 4th round. The lions with the only other established qb isn't replacing him any time soon and definately not with brad kaaya.

That leaves the niners, broncos, browns, bills, bears, texans and giants...all of which desperately need a starting qb this year and are forced to stake their future on this years class. We don't need to do that so we didn't. None of the qb's that were available at 13 were worth that pick and none in this class were worth what it would have taken to move up to get them.

There is a time and a place for everything.

 

[Hollywood]

Again, you DONT DRAFT a QB just for the sake of drafting one!!!

The 2 guys they obviously liked went off the board early because of trades & Keim didn't want to give up all that draft capital & sacrificing players that can help them win this year. This isn't a 5-11 football team & it has enough talent to compete for the SB if they don't choke away games like in 2016.

They made moves to acquire some of these draft picks & if they would've had enough faith or belief in Kizer, Webb, etc they would've made that move. They didn't so onto 2017

Its almost like they have a plan and want to stick to it. Omg, all those years where we were just throwing darts at a board. Lets not go back to that. We have the benefit of time, lets use it.

 

[Solar7]

Ok, lets look at the 10 teams that are "developing" qb's to take the place of their starters.

KC is, imo, the only team that is actually grooming their pick to take over for their starter. While smith isn't a bad qb he obviously isn't going to with them a title.

the steelers have ben playing at least another year and probably longer didn't draft a qb until the 4th round. The lions with the only other established qb isn't replacing him any time soon and definately not with brad kaaya.

That leaves the niners, broncos, browns, bills, bears, texans and giants...all of which desperately need a starting qb this year and are forced to stake their future on this years class. We don't need to do that so we didn't. None of the qb's that were available at 13 were worth that pick and none in this class were worth what it would have taken to move up to get them.

There is a time and a place for everything.

49ers - Do have a desperate need for QB, but invested a late 3rd rounder, which doesn't prevent them from future choices, but gave them someone to develop.
Broncos - Have two guys competing for the starting job, drafted a guy in the first round. Still took a shot on a QB.
Browns - Have Cody Kessler, who started for them and was drafted last year. Yes, they need a starter, but they didn't have to panic and showed they weren't going to by trading down from 12.
Bills - Have a starter. Peterman just becomes another developmental option.
Bears - Just paid a quarterback $15 million a year to start. They weren't "forced" at all.
Giants - Yeah, their two-time Super Bowl winning QB that has shown no signs of retiring really isn't a viable starting option.

I'm fine with saying that you just plainly don't like these QBs, but pretending they were taken out of desperation is silly. Really only the Texans were desperate and forced their hand because of that desperation. The other two desperate teams let the board fall to them and at least bought a lottery ticket.

 

[Mainstreet]

I think it's time to admit the most likely way for the Cardinals to get a quarterback in the foreseeable future is to trade for one or get one in free agency. Drafting one does not appear the Cardinals mode of operation and their area of success. I'm not saying the Cardinals should not try to draft one in the future but I think the other option is more likely to find a QB.

This year's draft was not a good one to go after a QB anyway.

If the Cardinals have some success next season it will be even harder to draft one. Most teams trading up pay a premium for a QB. This was the case even in this year's draft. I don't think the Cardinals are willing to mortgage their future for one via the draft.

 

[az jam]

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10 quarterbacks drafted, six in the first three rounds.

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Interesting that 5 of the teams that took Qbs made the playoffs last year and Denver missed by one game.

 

[DVontel]

DVontel do you think this was a good QB class?

I think it was a real solid one.

 

[Chopper0080]

QB out of Wyoming is very good next year.

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[Solar7]

QB out of Wyoming is very good next year.

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Who will probably go in the top 5.

 

[oaken1]

so...lets say by next years draft Darnold is being hailed as the next Peyton Manning/Tom Brady type QB......

Steve Keim trades our entire draft to Cleveland for the 1st overall pick....we select the QB and walk out of the building.

would everyone be okay with this?...I would, if he is the guy for the next 15 years

 

[Sunburn]

oops

 

[crisper57]

49ers - Do have a desperate need for QB, but invested a late 3rd rounder, which doesn't prevent them from future choices, but gave them someone to develop.
Broncos - Have two guys competing for the starting job, drafted a guy in the first round. Still took a shot on a QB.
Browns - Have Cody Kessler, who started for them and was drafted last year. Yes, they need a starter, but they didn't have to panic and showed they weren't going to by trading down from 12.
Bills - Have a starter. Peterman just becomes another developmental option.
Bears - Just paid a quarterback $15 million a year to start. They weren't "forced" at all.
Giants - Yeah, their two-time Super Bowl winning QB that has shown no signs of retiring really isn't a viable starting option.

I'm fine with saying that you just plainly don't like these QBs, but pretending they were taken out of desperation is silly. Really only the Texans were desperate and forced their hand because of that desperation. The other two desperate teams let the board fall to them and at least bought a lottery ticket.

Most those teams you listed have no designs on the playoffs next year. They can afford to invest in a project QB. Cards want players to help win now.

 

[crisper57]

Kizer said he entered this draft early to avoid next year's crop of QBs.

Garoppolo and Glennon will have high potential of being available, as will Alex Smith and prob others.

Cards will be fine at QB.

 

[Sunburn]

Keizer said he entered this draft early to avoid next year's crop of QBs.

Garoppolo and Glennon with have high potential of being available, as will Alex Smith and prob others.

Cards will be fine at QB.

The soothing voice of reason.