Chad Ford at it again...

[The Commish]

From his chat today:

David, Phoenix: Who's going to be the biggest name traded this off-season?

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Chad Ford: The obvious answer is KG. Pau Gasol and Jermaine O'Neal are also big names who will likely be in the mix. But I think your hometown may be in play as well. If the Suns don't win it all, I suspect that they'll think about moving a big contract, especially if they end up with the No. 4 or No. 5 pick in the draft (via Atlanta). While everyone points to Shawn Marion being the guy to go ... I wouldn't be surprised if Amare Stoudemire is traded. From what I hear, the relationship is rocky and he has very strong trade value ... what about a deal that sends Stoudemire to Chicago for Luol Deng/Tyrus Thomas?




If we trade Amare I'm going to burn down someone's house. You simply don't trade a guy like Stoudemire. Big guys like him don't grow on trees.

 

[dreamcastrocks]

might as well trade him for Odom and Kwame.

 

[azirish]

Trading Amare is not out of the question, but for that kind of junk really is. The Suns have enough "nice" players.

 

[elindholm]

As I said before, I think it would be a very sad day for the franchise if Stoudemire were traded, but it's not impossible by any means.

 

[scotsman13]

honestly i would trade amare for odem but after that not much.

 

[Covert Rain]

honestly i would trade amare for odem but after that not much.

No freaking way. Yeah, let's trade a proven big man in the hopes that a unproven rookie will pan out. That's sounds like a great idea.

 

[HooverDam]

I would have a really difficult time still rooting for the team if they moved Amare this offseason. They waited over 30 years to get a dominant inside force, they aren't going to move him.

 

[slinslin]

I would have a really difficult time still rooting for the team if they moved Amare this offseason. They waited over 30 years to get a dominant inside force, they aren't going to move him.

That's right, if they moved Amare I'd stop watching them. They can't seriously trade their dominant big man that we waited for all the time just to go all over again with the small ball crap.

 

[Mulli]

That's right, if they moved Amare I'd stop watching them. They can't seriously trade their dominant big man that we waited for all the time just to go all over again with the small ball crap.

wourd

 

[Diamondback Jay]

No. No. No. No.. Hell no.

Do not move Amare for anything.

 

[F-Dog]

I think this is part of Chad Ford's new theory, "the Suns don't like having an interior presence on their team".


He probably thinks they're not that interested in winning a championship, either.

 

[scotsman13]

No freaking way. Yeah, let's trade a proven big man in the hopes that a unproven rookie will pan out. That's sounds like a great idea.

a proven big man who has had microfracture surgery and they say that needs to be redone in 5 years. with luck we may get another year out of it so in 6 years from now you will loose amare for another year as he recovers from this. now i love amare i think he has something very rare in the nba today. and that is that he plays with deal of emotion and doesnt mind the contact. but because and his 2 year out on his contact and 2 more years maybe 3 with nash. is this the best answer for the this team.

and this is counting on the fact of us getting one of the best center to come out of the draft since 92. a true defensive star who can turn around one of the biggest weakness this team has had since we lost the toss in 69.

would you trade amare for david robinson?

 

[MaoTosiFanClub]

Ford's right about one thing - somebody's going this offseason if they don't win it all.

I'd guess it would be Marion though.

 

[tobiazz]

Amare's knees will most certainly go bad again within 5-6 years. To assume otherwise is insanity. That said, he's still not worth trading unless a killer deal comes along. You would definitely have to think about Oden, but not something ******** like that CHI suggestion (though I think Thomas will be a beast). Amare fits very well on this team, and if you don't trade him for a stud, you might as well trade Nash while you're at it.

Then there's Marion. In 5-6 years he will be far less valuable as well since he will be 33. As important as Stat is to this team, Marion is probably the main guy that allows them to play small and run due to his quickness and ability to rebound like a 7-footer. Losing him may hurt more than losing Stoudemire.

So I say trade neither and let Sarver pay money--out of sight, out of mind for us. The only reason to trade Amare is if they can get a killer deal that will help them now, more than Stat would help them (good luck). The only reason to trade Marion is if he's going to want max money and a long extension when his contract expires (after next season IIRC).

 

[Covert Rain]

a proven big man who has had microfracture surgery and they say that needs to be redone in 5 years. with luck we may get another year out of it so in 6 years from now you will loose amare for another year as he recovers from this.

First off nobody knows how long a microfracture surgery will last. Even Amare's own doctors have said that. Second, I will still take Amare with 1 year off in between surgery over a rookie who is unproven and could turn out to be a bust. Do I need to point out how many "star" college big man never do anything in the NBA?

now i love amare i think he has something very rare in the nba today. and that is that he plays with deal of emotion and doesnt mind the contact. but because and his 2 year out on his contact and 2 more years maybe 3 with nash. is this the best answer for the this team.

What?? First off, Amare will be extended long before his contract runs out. He is the center piece of the team and will be here for the long haul. Trading away a LEGIT big man for a potential big man is the type of move that can set the franchise back for years. Look how long it took us to get an Amare. That makes no sense.

and this is counting on the fact of us getting one of the best center to come out of the draft since 92. a true defensive star who can turn around one of the biggest weakness this team has had since we lost the toss in 69. would you trade amare for david robinson?

First off your assuming we can even be in the position to get that player. Second what he does in college is no gaurantee he will translate to a STAR in the NBA. Would I trade Amare for David Robinson? Yes. But that is hind site. It's easy to throw out the name of a player who made the transition to the NBA.

You cannot under any circumstances trade a proven big man. Even if you did, you don't want to trade him for another big man. That doesn't get you closer to a title. If anything, you want to trade a wing type guy or someone like Shawn that you could find much easier then a true big man. Now that makes sense.

 

[Arizona's Finest]

Untouchable. If there is bad chemistry there trade everyone around him and build around him and Barbosa. Barbosa likes everybody.

I am all for trading Marion/#4/Diaw for the rights to draft Durant or Oden, salary cap albatross, and a bag of basketballs.

I know there is no way any team trades the rights to either of those two guys but that is a a HELL of alot we are giving up...

I'm with Mao though - no ring means someones gone. And i am guessing Marion. And to be honest i look forward to seeing him "carry" a team and be put into MVP consideration.

 

[Chaplin]

Oooh, 5 or 6 years. When his CONTRACT IS UP. The whole argument about how he'll need surgery again in 5 years is lame. Marion in 5 or 6 years? In that time, either Marion will be on another team or we'll be paying him less than what he's making now.

 

[LakeShowMan]

might as well trade him for Odom and Kwame.

Done and done.

 

[Arizona's Finest]

Done and done.

LakeshowMan! Good to have you around again. I look forward to handing Kobe and co. their a$$ in five games.......

 

[TucsonDevil]

Can we please just focus on this Post-Season and win before we break up the team?

POSITIVE ENERGY.... THINK.... POSITIVE ...

but if we don't win it all this year, I'm guessing Amare will be gone since it seems he is the 'outsider' on the team in terms of personality. Marion is a complainer, but seems to get along with the guys... I wonder if Amare is just pissed about the book that came out tagging him as a lazy worker, and now we all know it.

 

[LakeShowMan]

LakeshowMan! Good to have you around again. I look forward to handing Kobe and co. their a$$ in five games.......

To be honest, at this point I would be pretty stoked to win 1 game. I guess we'll see what happens.

 

[TJ]

not happening

 

[Cheesebeef]

Can we please just focus on this Post-Season and win before we break up the team?

POSITIVE ENERGY.... THINK.... POSITIVE ...

but if we don't win it all this year, I'm guessing Amare will be gone since it seems he is the 'outsider' on the team in terms of personality. Marion is a complainer, but seems to get along with the guys... I wonder if Amare is just pissed about the book that came out tagging him as a lazy worker, and now we all know it.

now we all know it? all I know is that NO ONE could come back from microfracture and the next season end up being an NBA-All-Star and likely 2nd or 3rd team ALL-NBA player.

if we lose and they trade Amare instead of Marion (if that's what it comes down to) then this team is completely out to lunch as it will have been proven that our style - of which Marion is such an important piece of AND completely dependent on, DOESN'T WORK. So when our style doesn't work and it's proven time and time again that a dominating big man is the key to a successful franchise and title winning team, the ONLY option is to keep Amare.

look at Jason Kidd - his first year back from surgery was less than great, but the next year, he was back to being the EXACT same player he was prior - I expect similar results from Amare, especially considering how far he's already come.

 

[elindholm]

If the Suns trade Stoudemire, it won't be because they didn't like his play this year or don't think he'll be even better next year. It will be because he has the highest trade value.

If the Suns' big move is to trade Marion, they aren't getting anything great in return. Dangle Stoudemire, and nearly every other team in the league will line up offering anything the Suns want.

The last time a player of Stoudemire's value was traded while currently under contract was ... um ... someone help me out here. A long, long freaking time ago. His trade value right now is higher than Iverson's or O'Neal's were.

 

[azirish]

It is really hard for me to see the Suns trading Amare in a world where KG gets $21 million on a lottery team. IMHO, the only way Amare gets traded is if he asked to be traded.

Eric is absolutely right about the problems of trading Marion. You can get get cap relief or you can get quality players - but don't expect to get both.