overseascardfan
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I know I sound like a broken record but that pick could have been Cordrea Tankersley or as someone else pointed out Kizer.
Chad Williams...
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I looked and looked and I could find nothing that indicated that Williams was worthy of being drafted in the third round. Every place I looked he was a third day player. He was ranked in the mid twenties among receivers. I would like to hear the explanation from Keim as to how they ranked Williams so high.
Mitch
Crawled Through 5 FB Fields
Keim likes small school offensive sleepers in the 3rd round...it is a pattern:
John Brown, Pittsburg St. (KS)
David Johnson, Northern Iowa
Chad Williams, Grambling
Gotta give him credit on the 1st two. I think Chad Williams will come around. It was going to be hard for him to beat out the established veterans Fitz, Jaron, Smokey, J.J. in year one as early as game 1. Plus, I think BA had big plans for Aaron Dobson, but Dobson's training camp injury put a damper on those plans. BA has actually praised Chad Williams for his play in practice recently. It's a classic BA tear em down and build em back up coaching tactic.
Capital Card
The Kobayashi of Kool-Aid
Exactly. Most WR's struggle adjusting from college to NFL. This kid's only been available one game, and he is buried on the depth chart. Seems WAY too early to show any concern here.
http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap20...ion-why-rookie-wide-receivers-struggle-in-nfl
Go Cards!!!
Mitch
Crawled Through 5 FB Fields
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I think there is no question that Chad Williams was heavily on SK's radar when Williams torched Arizona last fall. I imagine Keim was thinking 5th or 6th round back then. But, Williams started to draw some pretty heavy attention when he played so well in the E/W game which then got him an invite to the Senior Bowl, where Williams was very good in practice.
I know that the WR Keim wanted most in the 3rd round was Carlos Henderson, who would have been available at #77 (had the Cardinals not given that pick up when they traded up for Budda Baker. Henderson was taken at #82 by the Broncos. Thus, because Henderson had been taken and knowing that Chad Williams' stock was rising in Mobile, I think at #98, Keim felt that was as good a time as any.
What surprised me is that I thought (and still think) that WR Josh Reynolds (6-3, 192) was a perfect choice for the Cardinals in that Reynolds is very Michael Floyd-esque, same length, maybe even better speed and definitely better hands. Reynolds performed well in the Senior Bowl game, catching a nice TD, whereas Chad Williams had a quiet day production-wise. The Rams took Reynolds in the 4th round, pick #118, three picks after the Cardinals took G Dorian Johnson at #115.
Hopefully, Chad Williams has a better career than Josh Reynolds.
I think there is no question that Chad Williams was heavily on SK's radar when Williams torched Arizona last fall. I imagine Keim was thinking 5th or 6th round back then. But, Williams started to draw some pretty heavy attention when he played so well in the E/W game which then got him an invite to the Senior Bowl, where Williams was very good in practice.
I know that the WR Keim wanted most in the 3rd round was Carlos Henderson, who would have been available at #77 (had the Cardinals not given that pick up when they traded up for Budda Baker. Henderson was taken at #82 by the Broncos. Thus, because Henderson had been taken and knowing that Chad Williams' stock was rising in Mobile, I think at #98, Keim felt that was as good a time as any.
What surprised me is that I thought (and still think) that WR Josh Reynolds (6-3, 192) was a perfect choice for the Cardinals in that Reynolds is very Michael Floyd-esque, same length, maybe even better speed and definitely better hands. Reynolds performed well in the Senior Bowl game, catching a nice TD, whereas Chad Williams had a quiet day production-wise. The Rams took Reynolds in the 4th round, pick #118, three picks after the Cardinals took G Dorian Johnson at #115.
Hopefully, Chad Williams has a better career than Josh Reynolds.
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Exactly... not many make the 1st year transition (except Cooper Kupp
). Going against DIII defenses doesn't get them ready. Can't imagine he played against many good ones. That being said I don't like him.
LoyaltyisaCurse
IF AND WHEN HEALTHY...
For a team that believed their window for a SB was closing, most of their picks should've been focused on guys they felt could step in right away...windows don't wait for projects.
Harry
ASFN Consultant and Senior Writer
I liked Agudosi which is why I said right after the draft he was likely their top UDFA signing. That said he's very raw. The nitwits coaching him rarely even threw to him. I doubt he's ready to help now, but he may turn out to be a great red zone option and maybe a third down option as well.
CFLredzoned
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The only beef I have with the way Cardinals draft the WR position is that I wish they would place a higher emphasis on ball skills - ie. hands and positioning for the ball. It seems like they get enamored with speed and measurables, with ball skills being an afterthought. Besides the obvious measurables, ball skills should be the easiest thing to evaluate - on film and looking at stats.
I agree that Williams should have been a 5th/6th round selection due to his obvious lack of ball skills. Not to mention, poor route running. Right after the draft, I heard an ex-scout break down the receivers on a podcast. He never heard of Williams so went back and watched all his game tape. Said Williams ran the sloppiest routes out of the class. Whatever he did in the AZ game must have been extraordinary.
I agree that Williams should have been a 5th/6th round selection due to his obvious lack of ball skills. Not to mention, poor route running. Right after the draft, I heard an ex-scout break down the receivers on a podcast. He never heard of Williams so went back and watched all his game tape. Said Williams ran the sloppiest routes out of the class. Whatever he did in the AZ game must have been extraordinary.
Spot on, I went back and watched the AZ game highlights of Williams and his route running was sloppy to say the least. He doesn't have that burst needed to run under deep throws. In the AZ game the QB threw a nice high deep ball that Williams should have been able to get under yet somehow he failed to do so.
JeffGollin
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OT - Harry, you're located in Orlando? How are you making out post-Irma?
