Chillar signs with...

[LoyaltyisaCurse]

honestly, I never even heard of this guy...

 

[mjb21aztd]

lol eaither have I but reading the Clayton report on him on espn he sounded alright plus he is young

 

[Crazy Canuck]

Explain how a 4 year contract takes weeks for the head office to approve but FA's sign 70, 80, & 90 million dollar FA deals within hours of Midnight.

I don't buy this argument at all.

And to respond to the last sentence..... My guess is that the John Clayton story and the statements Chillar made about waiting for the Cards to make an offer caused the Packers to (smartly) put a deadline on their offer. It's awfully hard to pass up that kind of money if the team you want can't even get their duck in a row to make a counter offer.

1. The length of contract is largely irrelevent to the due diligence required.

(There are considerably more whereas' in a player contract then a car leasing agreement, and league head office lawyer's have quite a number of contracts to review at this time of year, I'd suggest.)

2. The contract has been signed.

3. Nothing prevented the Cards FO from making a counter offer contingent on signing after the league had given final approval to Fitz's deal. They evidently decided that paying more than $5.2 million was not feasible.

 

[slanidrac16]

If he was so damn good why did the Rams let him walk? I mean, their defense isn't exactly in the top 5 of the league.

 

[red desert]

I think I am going to have to agree with this. I dont think we were offering more then 2 Mill a season. I think GB beat us by 500K per season.

Jeez. Are you on the Cardinals payroll? Just asking.

 

[earthsci]

Jeez. Are you on the Cardinals payroll? Just asking.

Did Mitch tell you you could ask that? Just asking.

 

[ajcardfan]

Somers on Fitz' deal and Chillars.

Linebacker Brandon Chillar, who signed a two-year deal with Green Bay on Wednesday, told The St. Louis Post-Dispatch that he couldn't wait for the Cardinals to clear up their problems with Larry Fitzgerald's contract.

"I think they just had some in-house issues that they're trying to get fixed," Chillar said. "Once Green Bay offered this kind of contract, I didn't want to miss out on the opportunity. You can't wait forever."

Chillar's two-year deal is worth $5.4 million with incentives that could earn him another $1 million.

No one is saying that Chillar os a great player, so you can't call this a devastating loss. Still, he's one of the few free agents the Cardinals had targeted this off-season, and they have a disinct lack of depth on defense. Chillar could have been a valuable backup at outside and inside linebacker.

Blame it on problems with Fitzgerald's contract. .He agreed to a four-year, $40 million deal before leaving last week on a vacation to South America. League officials, however, haven't yet approved the deal, and the two sides are working to make the necessary changes.

Until that deal is final, the Cardinals don't have the cap room to sign a player without make a roster move.

 

[Houdini]

Of the ineptness of the Cards front office. The team doesn't have the money to sign a FA, simply because they couldn't close the Fitzgerald deal. It's sad.

To the Cards credit though, it sounds like they offered more to try and land Chillar. So they aren't being cheap like they use to years ago before M. Bidwill started getting more involved and spending more money. From the sound of Chillar's agent, I think they were just worried about waiting too long for Fitzgerald's contract to complete.

http://www.jsonline.com/story/index.aspx?id=730199

 

[Garthshort]

so Many Are Missing The Point

I read, according to John Clayton that Chillar was the best FA still available. Maybe yes, maybe no. My point is/was that the Cards' front office kept the team from signing him, by not finalizing the Fitz deal. And keep in mind we didn't target many FA's, but Chillar was one, and indications are if we had the money (that would have been freed up when Fitz' deal was completed) we would have signed him. Simply put, THE FRONT OFFICE DIDN't GET IT DONE.

 

[cardsfanmd]

I read, according to John Clayton that Chillar was the best FA still available. Maybe yes, maybe no. My point is/was that the Cards' front office kept the team from signing him, by not finalizing the Fitz deal. And keep in mind we didn't target many FA's, but Chillar was one, and indications are if we had the money (that would have been freed up when Fitz' deal was completed) we would have signed him. Simply put, THE FRONT OFFICE DIDN't GET IT DONE.

I dont care how many times I get banned over saying it, but Graves sucks!!!!!!

 

[lobo]

If he was so damn good why did the Rams let him walk? I mean, their defense isn't exactly in the top 5 of the league.

You continue to be too logical can you please stop that now.

 

[Stout]

Yeah, I'm not too bummed about not getting Chillar, but this just chafes me. Hearing that Graves and Parker hadn't fixed all of the details and it is taking this long to finalize the deal with the NFL...ugh! Now we KNOW it isn't the NFL, but Graves and the agent, making this go so long. Talk about new levels of incompetence!

 

[cardsfanmd]

If he was so damn good why did the Rams let him walk? I mean, their defense isn't exactly in the top 5 of the league.

The Rams tried to stay in pursuit of him as long as they could. Using your train of thought we should never go after FAs then I guess.

 

[bg7brd]

Obviously Whiz wanted him over the other available lb's. I blame the front office for not getting this Fitz deal wrapped up in time.

 

[bg7brd]

Card fans as much as anyone should realize that bad teams sometimes let good players slip through their fingers.

 

[ASUCHRIS]

I read, according to John Clayton that Chillar was the best FA still available. Maybe yes, maybe no. My point is/was that the Cards' front office kept the team from signing him, by not finalizing the Fitz deal. And keep in mind we didn't target many FA's, but Chillar was one, and indications are if we had the money (that would have been freed up when Fitz' deal was completed) we would have signed him. Simply put, THE FRONT OFFICE DIDN't GET IT DONE.

Just another player that would have been quality depth that slipped through our fingers due to the incompetence of the front office. Luckily, we still have the June 1st cuts coming up. On the bright side, we've regressed from a team that was 8-8 with the easiest schedule in the league last year, and we have little cap space to improve.

 

[joeshmo]

It was brought up on the radio this morning that the problem with the NFLPA may be the Franchise Tag stipulation in the contract. The one that says if we franchise tag him we have to pay him 23 Mill. It is one thing to promise a player that you wont tag them again, becuase it doesnt overwrite the rules already set it is just a promise sort of like a no trade clause. But I dont think the league offices like the fact that in the contract with Fitz we are overridding the Franchise tag rules by setting a new tender amount. They are probably trying to reword that part of the contract.

 

[lobo]

I dont care how many times I get banned over saying it, but Graves sucks!!!!!!

You may be sorry for what you wish for. Your will have to find a new audience to share your wisdom.


I would imagine you have Peter Angelos on your shortlist as well.

 

[red desert]

I dont care how many times I get banned over saying it, but Graves sucks!!!!!!

Why would you get banned for stating the obvious?

 

[imaCafan]

If I remember correctly, when Chillars name was first brought up at the beginning of FA, there was a lot of boos and hisses about not wanting him. I could be wrong, though......

 

[cardsfanmd]

You may be sorry for what you wish for. Your will have to find a new audience to share your wisdom.


I would imagine you have Peter Angelos on your shortlist as well.

Graves is inept IMO, but Angelos is despicable. I'll take RG over him any day of the week.

 

[cardsfanmd]

Why would you get banned for stating the obvious?

In case you haven't notices we are a dying breed here.

 

[Gee!]

"Chillar Signs With Packers"

Here's my take on it.. Who? Who the .. is Chillar? So he signed with the Packers.. BFnD!

 

[red desert]

If I remember correctly, when Chillars name was first brought up at the beginning of FA, there was a lot of boos and hisses about not wanting him. I could be wrong, though......

I recall just the opposite. There was lots of support for Graves and the signing of this inexpensive, solid, linebacker. Smart move by Graves was the chant from where I was standing.

 

[Mitch]

Let's put the Chillar situation into perspective. First of all, the Cards wanted to sign him to challenge Chike Okeafor for the starting SOLB position. If Okeafor is healthy, there's no doubt who wins that job.

The Cards also stated they wanted to have Chillar backup SILB Gerald Hayes. Well, Monty Beisel is a better option inside than Chillar anyway.

Thirdly, Chillar is not a bona fide pass rusher. He had 2.5 sacks last year and has something llike 5 in 4 years.

Thus, Chillar's signing was a good idea for depth, but was certainly not imminent.

Odds are the Cards are going to draft an OLB somewhere in the draft this year, and it could even be with the #16 pick if Derrick Harvey, Quentin Groves or Calais Campbell are available and suit the Cards' fancy.

The one true frustrating thing about the Chillar situation is the holdup in the Fitz contract approval by the league, which has still rendered the Cardinals incapable of signing virtually anyone. In signing LS Nathan Hodel, the Cards apparently had to waive WR/STer Sean Morey. And as poor as the Cardinals have been on special teams, this move was a pretty risky gamble (the Cards say they want to re-sign him when Fitz's contract clears...but they also said they wanted to sign Chillar and re-sign BJ), seeing as Morey is just about the best special teams player the Cards have, save a healthy Aaron Francisco.

I would add too that Chillar was only offered a one year contract to return to the Rams. In the last game of the season the Rams were starting a rookie in Chillar's spot...obviously the Rams were not that enamored with him...which should say something.