Chillar Visits, Whiz speaks - Urban Blog

[BigShtank]

http://www.azcardinals.com/blog/post.php?author=1&id=794

Linebacker Brandon Chillar came through to talk to us, and, somewhat refreshingly, he was pretty honest about his status.


"I would love to be a Cardinal but it comes down to financials," Chillar said. "This is a once-in-a-lifetime opportunity for me so I want to make the right decision for my family."

Chillar said he can play both inside and outside, so he would give the Cards versatility and depth. He was starting in St. Louis but I'm not so sure it would be the same for him in Arizona. He plans on taking a free-agent visit to Green Bay after this, but added that he could see a scenario where he didn't leave town. The Rams are also being asked to be kept in the loop.

Coach Ken Whisenhunt, meanwhile, also gave us a few minutes. One of the reasons the Cards like Travis LaBoy was because of the similarities, both physically and career-wise, with Calvin Pace. That said, LaBoy was on the radar screen before they thought Pace would sign elsewhere.


Whisenhunt praised Chillar's versatility. He also mentioned the Cards have no other free-agent visits planned as of right now. That's in part because of the landscape of available players, but also because of the Cards' shrinking cap space. Asked if the Cards couldn't bring in more players because of those issues -- and Larry Fitzgerald's lingering contract negotiation -- Whisenhunt acknowledged "it's pretty close to that" and said if the Cards do further free-agent business, they will likely need to make cuts to the roster.

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Hmm, looks like it's a stretch to sign Chillar. Would be great to have because of his versatility. He's the last of our FA visits until the Fitz deal gets done or we cut some players. *cough*Shipp*cough*

 

[dreamcastrocks]

http://www.azcardinals.com/blog/post.php?author=1&id=794

Linebacker Brandon Chillar came through to talk to us, and, somewhat refreshingly, he was pretty honest about his status.


"I would love to be a Cardinal but it comes down to financials," Chillar said. "This is a once-in-a-lifetime opportunity for me so I want to make the right decision for my family."

Chillar said he can play both inside and outside, so he would give the Cards versatility and depth. He was starting in St. Louis but I'm not so sure it would be the same for him in Arizona. He plans on taking a free-agent visit to Green Bay after this, but added that he could see a scenario where he didn't leave town. The Rams are also being asked to be kept in the loop.

Coach Ken Whisenhunt, meanwhile, also gave us a few minutes. One of the reasons the Cards like Travis LaBoy was because of the similarities, both physically and career-wise, with Calvin Pace. That said, LaBoy was on the radar screen before they thought Pace would sign elsewhere.


Whisenhunt praised Chillar's versatility. He also mentioned the Cards have no other free-agent visits planned as of right now. That's in part because of the landscape of available players, but also because of the Cards' shrinking cap space. Asked if the Cards couldn't bring in more players because of those issues -- and Larry Fitzgerald's lingering contract negotiation -- Whisenhunt acknowledged "it's pretty close to that" and said if the Cards do further free-agent business, they will likely need to make cuts to the roster.

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Hmm, looks like it's a stretch to sign Chillar. Would be great to have because of his versatility. He's the last of our FA visits until the Fitz deal gets done or we cut some players. *cough*Shipp*cough*

Cut Shipp, sign another FA. You plan on addressing the RB position on the first day of the draft anyway.

 

[abomb]

OMG Chillar is holding the Cardinals hostage!!1! I wish these players would think about the team instead of themselves!

 

[BigShtank]

He did say that he could see a scenario where he doesn't even leave AZ for a visit to GB. It's possible with guarantees up front, and I think if we somehow sign Chillar too, that almost guarantees a RB and CB in the first two rounds.

 

[azsouthendzone]

If they want to save money on the cap, trade or cut Warner. He is a luxury, not a neccessity. Leinart is the starter. He needs to play. We don't need a QB controversy. It seems like one logical solution. Cutting shipp is a no brainer. I would consider getting rid of Rackers as well.

 

[abomb]

If they want to save money on the cap, trade or cut Warner. He is a luxury, not a neccessity. Leinart is the starter. He needs to play. We don't need a QB controversy. It seems like one logical solution. Cutting shipp is a no brainer. I would consider getting rid of Rackers as well.

Totally disagree. Anyone who watched any NFL games last year would agree teams need two capable QBs, especially the Cardinals where Leinart has been missed time each season.

 

[Renz]

If they want to save money on the cap, trade or cut Warner. He is a luxury, not a neccessity. Leinart is the starter. He needs to play. We don't need a QB controversy. It seems like one logical solution. Cutting shipp is a no brainer. I would consider getting rid of Rackers as well.

I was gonna rip this, but I could live with Leinart/Rattay this year if we HAD TO.

That being said, it would have to be a desperation move because I want Kurt back this season.

 

[PJ1]

If they want to save money on the cap, trade or cut Warner. He is a luxury, not a neccessity. Leinart is the starter. He needs to play. We don't need a QB controversy. It seems like one logical solution. Cutting shipp is a no brainer. I would consider getting rid of Rackers as well.

Couldn't disagree more on Warner. One hard sack and another shoulder injury to Matt and our season is done. We need Kurt and hope like hell Matt develops like we believe he will.

I don't understand why Shipp isn't gone already.

 

[dreamcastrocks]

Couldn't disagree more on Warner. One hard sack and another shoulder injury to Matt and our season is done. We need Kurt and hope like hell Matt develops like we believe he will.

I don't understand why Shipp isn't gone already.

That's what I'm talking about. Shipp his ass outta here.

 

[azsouthendzone]

Couldn't disagree more on Warner. One hard sack and another shoulder injury to Matt and our season is done. We need Kurt and hope like hell Matt develops like we believe he will.

I don't understand why Shipp isn't gone already.

You could make that arguement for 31 other NFL teams that do not have a Warner sitting on the bench. What if Brady went down? what if Manning goes down? The list goes on and on. Rattay is more than adequate and burning $5 million on a backup QB is wasting money. You can't worry about injuries. They happen to everyone.

 

[abomb]

You could make that arguement for 31 other NFL teams that do not have a Warner sitting on the bench. What if Brady went down? what if Manning goes down? The list goes on and on. Rattay is more than adequate and burning $5 million on a backup QB is wasting money. You can't worry about injuries. They happen to everyone.

Brady and Manning have been incredibly durable and their orgs are betting that continues.

Leinart has been missed games every pro season so far. In fact, Leinart may not even beat out Warner in camp!

 

[azsouthendzone]

Totally disagree. Anyone who watched any NFL games last year would agree teams need two capable QBs, especially the Cardinals where Leinart has been missed time each season.

Capable and a $5 million backup are two diferent things. Is Matt Cassel capable? I don't know, but I do know that teh Patriots won 18 games and didn't burn 5 mill on a backup. Call me crazy but I think a Rattay with a full training camp could be a great back up. Warner will just lead to controversy everytime Matt doesn't get a perfect rating.

 

[ajcardfan]

He did say that he could see a scenario where he doesn't even leave AZ for a visit to GB. It's possible with guarantees up front, and I think if we somehow sign Chillar too, that almost guarantees a RB and CB in the first two rounds.

I agree and that's why I hope we sign Chillar. It would pretty much take care of the defensive front 7 as a pressing need and allowing us to go into the draft for positions that are needs and deeper in talent.

 

[azsouthendzone]

Brady and Manning have been incredibly durable and their orgs are betting that continues.

Leinart has been missed games every pro season so far. In fact, Leinart may not even beat out Warner in camp!

Warner has missed games in every season with the Cardinals as well, but i would bet that Leinart has a great chance of staying healthy if the O-line can block. If you feel the need to carry two starting QBs you are in deep ****. You can use any other team as an example, not just Manning and Brady. You just don't need to burn $5 million on a back up. It is a waste of money. Go through teh list of every playoff team and look at who and what they are paying backups. My guess is no one comes close to Warner.

 

[BigShtank]

I also think Rattay can be just as capable a backup. I would want to keep Warner, if he didn't throw 3 million interceptions, fumble 4 million last year that put us in holes we could get out of. Warner is too turnover prone to be a valid backup at the money he's getting. I like the guy, but if it means we cut him, keep Rattay and sign another good FA, then do it.

 

[cardsfanmd]

If they want to save money on the cap, trade or cut Warner. He is a luxury, not a neccessity. Leinart is the starter. He needs to play. We don't need a QB controversy. It seems like one logical solution. Cutting shipp is a no brainer. I would consider getting rid of Rackers as well.

No way to Warner, but I am with you 100% on Shipp and Rackers.

You could make that arguement for 31 other NFL teams that do not have a Warner sitting on the bench. What if Brady went down? what if Manning goes down? The list goes on and on. Rattay is more than adequate and burning $5 million on a backup QB is wasting money. You can't worry about injuries. They happen to everyone.

31 teams dont have fragile people like Matt as their starter either.

Capable and a $5 million backup are two diferent things. Is Matt Cassel capable? I don't know, but I do know that teh Patriots won 18 games and didn't burn 5 mill on a backup. Call me crazy but I think a Rattay with a full training camp could be a great back up. Warner will just lead to controversy everytime Matt doesn't get a perfect rating.

If Matt could prove that he is tougher than Paris Hilton I would be right with you. Until then Warner has to stay IMO.

Warner has missed games in every season with the Cardinals as well, but i would bet that Leinart has a great chance of staying healthy if the O-line can block. If you feel the need to carry two starting QBs you are in deep ****. You can use any other team as an example, not just Manning and Brady. You just don't need to burn $5 million on a back up. It is a waste of money. Go through teh list of every playoff team and look at who and what they are paying backups. My guess is no one comes close to Warner.

My guess is that their starters didn't get hurt and force them to rely on backups either.

The "in" thing on this board right now is to proffess love for Fitz. I would be willing to bet Larry and Q want Warner to stay in Arizona.

 

[vince56]

If they want to save money on the cap, trade or cut Warner. He is a luxury, not a neccessity.

Oh man, from your avatar to your comments I just do not agree with you.

Warner put up the best numbers QB numbers ever in AZ Cardinals history. 20 years, no one has sniffed what he's done. He makes a few more passes last year and he's pro bowl caliber. You don't just throw that away.

 

[KingLouieLouie]

Not only is Leinart's health a main concern, however, his desire/mindset. It just seemed he didn't receive any vote-of-confidence last year (especially while being removed when the Cards had to employ the no-huddle offense). True, Whiz did deem him the #1 QB coming into training camp, but to me that was some kind of smoke-screen. No way does he warrant being #1. It just seems he's more concerned with his image (almost reminds me of Joey Harrington).

I guarantee that Warner will be the Cards starting QB on or before Week 5. I hope the Cardinals draft a RB w/their 1st pick (I still wish we didn't pass on Adrian Peterson last year) and perhaps will use '09 1st Rd pick on a QB since by then Warner's contract will be expiring and we'll realize that Leinart was a major bust.

 

[DaisyCutter]

The "in" thing on this board right now is to proffess love for Fitz. I would be willing to bet Larry and Q want Warner to stay in Arizona.

That's the bottom line. I'm willing to bet Larry and Q want Warner to be the starter. The Cards/Graves were comfortable not renegotiating Fitz last offseason because they thought that in Whis's offense, sharing opportunities with Anquan, that Fitz wouldn't put up Pro Bowl numbers. That was a bad decision.

But, realistically, I think that if Whis is successful in implementing his offense (and I'm personally doubtful of that) in Arizona, we'll likely lose both Fitz and Boldin. Both now know that they can get 100+ receptions and 1400+ yards every season. Are they really going to "settle" for 80 catches and 1100 yards? Especially if they have a front office that is going to bet on them not being recognized as among the finest players at their position in the NFL?

 

[azsouthendzone]

Oh man, from your avatar to your comments I just do not agree with you.

Warner put up the best numbers QB numbers ever in AZ Cardinals history. 20 years, no one has sniffed what he's done. He makes a few more passes last year and he's pro bowl caliber. You don't just throw that away.

Warner had a great year, but he has had his share of mistakes as well. But the fact is that we drafted Matt at #10 for the future. As a rookie he played rather well. Last year he played like Warner, except Warner was able to utilize the no huddle. Whether Matt struggles or not, he is the guy. Warner is not the guy on opening day, nor will he be in the future minus discovering the fountain of youth. We could debate this for the next 12 months. We are just looking for ways to free up some space and this is a way to do it. Turn the page and pocket 5 million.

As far as my avatar, until Lakers avatars are gone on "Arizona" Sports Fans network I'll keep this one. Reverse mojo.

 

[azsouthendzone]

I find it strange that trading Fitzgerald is logical, a guy that lines up every down and has made 2 Pro Bowls by the age of 24, but trading an aging backup QB is off limits. I love Warner, but this team needs to trim some fat and in the end winning is all that matters.

 

[cardsfanmd]

Warner had a great year, but he has had his share of mistakes as well. But the fact is that we drafted Matt at #10 for the future.

We drafted JJ Arrignton for the future too. Would you have us cut Edge, give JJ the starting spot and sign a bum as backup???

Last year he played like Warner, except Warner was able to utilize the no huddle.

No, quit the games. Matt had a few decent drives but was subpar the vast majority of the time.

Whether Matt struggles or not, he is the guy.

What sense does that make? This is the Arizona Cardinals, not the Matt Leinarts.

As far as my avatar, until Lakers avatars are gone on "Arizona" Sports Fans network I'll keep this one. Reverse mojo.

 

[dreamcastrocks]

I find it strange that trading Fitzgerald is logical, a guy that lines up every down and has made 2 Pro Bowls by the age of 24, but trading an aging backup QB is off limits. I love Warner, but this team needs to trim some fat and in the end winning is all that matters.

Almost sig worthy right there.

 

[azsouthendzone]

We drafted JJ Arrignton for the future too. Would you have us cut Edge, give JJ the starting spot and sign a bum as backup???

Apples and oranges. Not even remotely the same. Think about it.

As far as the "We're not the matt Leinarts" comment, come on. Its similar to Philip Rivers in San Diego. You don't invest what they have invested in Matt for him to sit behind a QB like Warner who has a losing record as a starter and is nearing the end of his career. This isn't like David Garrard vs. Leftwich. You are acting like warner is here for the long haul and he isn't. Matt is. I wouldn't be shocked if Warner is let go at some point. It makes way too much sense.

 

[azsouthendzone]

Almost sig worthy right there.

Done.