Christian McCaffrey is more valuable than Leonard Fournette

[imaCafan]

For those liking McCaffery...

http://www.foxsports.com/nfl/galler...s-more-valuable-than-leonard-fournette-030617

 

[Dan H]

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[Zeno]

Shannon Sharpe says if McCaffrey was black he'd be a top 10 pick.

http://www.totalprosports.com/2017/...ey-was-black-he-would-be-a-top-10-pick-video/

He is an every down player IMO but just not an every down back, when you add his contributions to special teams he is going to make some team happy.

 

[Stout]

Special teams does not make someone a top 10 pick, Zeno. I'd love to have him on our team, but not with #13. IMO he's not more valuable than a star prospect that has a solid, impact position. I'd rather have the star RB than a slash player, for instance.

 

[Dan H]

I just don't see him ever being more than a role player.

 

[BurqueCardFan]

Shannon Sharpe says if McCaffrey was black he'd be a top 10 pick.

http://www.totalprosports.com/2017/...ey-was-black-he-would-be-a-top-10-pick-video/

He is an every down player IMO but just not an every down back, when you add his contributions to special teams he is going to make some team happy.

It might not be PC but Shannon Sharpe is right but for good reason. Who is the last white RB that made any sizable impact? All the ones I can think of either played 30-60 years ago (Hoge, Riggins, Zsonka, etc...) or were fullbacks (Allstott, Rathman). Toby Gerhart held most of Stanford's records prior to McCafferey and how did Gerhart's career work out?

 

[Dan H]

It's not so much his race, it's the fact that it's Stanford, IMO.

Their backs haven't worked out in the NFL, historically. Remember how excited we were about Stepfan Taylor, and he's turned out to be an average back? Same goes for Gerhart.

 

[Cardiac]

For those liking McCaffery...

http://www.foxsports.com/nfl/galler...s-more-valuable-than-leonard-fournette-030617

Great article, thanks for posting the link. It reads like Mitch wrote it.

We need a PRer desperately. We need a WR for sure but McCaffery doesn't fill the exact role of the type of WR we need. We need a back up for DJ and his skills do relate nicely.

I do believe there might be a very talented player at a position of greater need when we pick at 13.

 

[Bodha]

It's not so much his race, it's the fact that it's Stanford, IMO.

Lol nah. Its because hes white. Same with Cooper Kupp. If Cooper were black he'd be the #1 WR in this draft. His numbers are unequaled.

Which is fine, to be honest. We have 70 years of white only basketball and baseball to account for, so a little white reverse racism is just balancing out the scales.

 

[Zeno]

Special teams does not make someone a top 10 pick, Zeno. I'd love to have him on our team, but not with #13. IMO he's not more valuable than a star prospect that has a solid, impact position. I'd rather have the star RB than a slash player, for instance.

It isn't special teams alone, the guy can play both WR and RB and make an impact.

All that being said I don't see the Cards drafting him but whoever does will get a productive player.

 

[Shane]

Ummm we already have our every down back.. He better than this kid..

 

[football karma]

i think McCaffery is a really good player

if you have nothing special in the backfield -- i can see him adding a really nice piece to an offense.

my objection to McCaffery has been his fit with the Cards --- i think at #13 there will be at least three other players that are better rated / at positions where they would be starters.

 

[MadCardDisease]

Wouldn't be interested in him during the 1st round.

However I would have a hard time passing on McCaffery if he fell to the Cardinals in the second round. David Johnson is clearly our #1 back but McCaffery would be a nice replacement for Andre Ellington and a valuable backup should something happen to DJ. Most importantly he would fill The Cardinals needs at Kick Returner and Punt Returner.

 

[Russ Smith]

Shannon Sharpe says if McCaffrey was black he'd be a top 10 pick.

http://www.totalprosports.com/2017/...ey-was-black-he-would-be-a-top-10-pick-video/

He is an every down player IMO but just not an every down back, when you add his contributions to special teams he is going to make some team happy.

I've been saying that less emphatically for months now, I think McCaffrey will "slide" because there aren't that many white RB's and despite all the evidence of how good he is, NFL teams tend to be afraid to do something unconventional.

Same reason I think Adoree Jackson will last longer than he should despite a great combine, teams will still say does he really love football, will he be willing to put in the time to be a great CB etc and he'll slide and hopefully we can get him in the 2nd round.

 

[DVontel]

Lol nah. Its because hes white. Same with Cooper Kupp. If Cooper were black he'd be the #1 WR in this draft. His numbers are unequaled.

Which is fine, to be honest. We have 70 years of white only basketball and baseball to account for, so a little white reverse racism is just balancing out the scales.

If he went to a FBS school, sure.

 

[JeffGollin]

To what extent does the modernized role of the RB in the NFL increase or decrease the pool of talent of the RB position in free agency and the draft?

What I'm wondering is: Other than maybe Adrian Peterson and our own dude, is there really that much of a talent-gap between one RB and another? And - durability-wise - can teams really expect more than a couple of years of elite production from anyone they might add to their roster?

 

[Bodha]

If he went to a FBS school, sure.

Nope, doesnt matter. Corey Davis is in the argument for the #1/#2 WR in the draft, and he went to a little MAC school, Western Michigan. Khalil Mack went to Buffalo, of the tiny Mid-American conference. As long as they absolutely dominate their conferences, then the size has less impact.

Coopers numbers would almost put him in the running for #1 overall pick as a WR. They are insane considering he put them up for 4 years, and the defenses obviously knew he was getting the ball and they still couldnt stop him.

 

[Stout]

Wouldn't be interested in him during the 1st round.

However I would have a hard time passing on McCaffery if he fell to the Cardinals in the second round. David Johnson is clearly our #1 back but McCaffery would be a nice replacement for Andre Ellington and a valuable backup should something happen to DJ. Most importantly he would fill The Cardinals needs at Kick Returner and Punt Returner.

I'd race to the podium if he's there in the 2nd. Instantly upgrades our biggest weakness--special teams--in more ways than one, and also would be an offensive contributor. I agree, though, that no way would we or should we take him in the 1st.

 

[Harry]

First Les Miles was fired because he couldn't develop a passing game. It's not surprising Bama could focus on just Fournette and stop him. Second, these guys are different players. People talk about McCaffrey like he's going to play every offensive down and then return all the kicks. The concern is his durability. If used that way he won't last a season. Gradually the nicks will accumulate and his effectiveness will diminish. His play at Stanford reflected this.

Fournette, on the other hand, is the guy who pounds the line and wears down the other team. Get a lead against a tired D-line in the 4th quarter and he'll make some of them quit. He'll also be a force on short yardage and near the goal line. If the defense keys on him it will open up passing lanes.

Year one McCaffrey could have the best numbers, but if McCaffrey is not used wisely Fournette certainly has the best career and may even if McCaffrey is used correctly.

 

[DVontel]

Nope, doesnt matter. Corey Davis is in the argument for the #1/#2 WR in the draft, and he went to a little MAC school, Western Michigan. Khalil Mack went to Buffalo, of the tiny Mid-American conference. As long as they absolutely dominate their conferences, then the size has less impact.

Coopers numbers would almost put him in the running for #1 overall pick as a WR. They are insane considering he put them up for 4 years, and the defenses obviously knew he was getting the ball and they still couldnt stop him.

Which are still a tier above a FCS school.

Kupp wasn't going against FBS competition like Khalil nor Corey was pretty much every week.

 

[Big D]

McCaffrey reminds me of Reggie Bush. Both played in pro style offenses in college behind terrific O-lines and then used their tremendous speed once then got into open spaces and just ran by everyone.

Once you get onto an NFL field where everyone is fast you can't just rely on your online opening monstrous holes and then out-running the D. Vision and patience are key. Being able to turn what should have been a 3 yard loss into a 3 yard gain is key. Plus you are going to get hit. Often.

He'll probably be a splash/flash type player that makes a big play every few games or so but I eventually see him breaking down and being one of those guys that can't ever be counted on to play a full season.

As far as the Cards are concerned, we have enough of those kind of guys on the roster already.

 

[kerouac9]

Special teams does not make someone a top 10 pick, Zeno. I'd love to have him on our team, but not with #13. IMO he's not more valuable than a star prospect that has a solid, impact position. I'd rather have the star RB than a slash player, for instance.

Ted Ginn, Jr., disagrees.

 

[MadCardDisease]

Ted Ginn, Jr., disagrees.

Ginn was drafted to be a stud WR who could stretch the field. He just turned out to be nothing more than a glorified Kick Returner.

 

[Brak]

I would absolutely take him at 13, he fits so well with what the Cards do and fills several needs immediately. Probably won't happen, but you watch, he will be a huge impact player immediately.

 

[Bodha]

Which are still a tier above a FCS school.

Kupp wasn't going against FBS competition like Khalil nor Corey was pretty much every week.

shhhhhh.

its because hes white