CNNSI Mock Draft

[Arizona's Finest]

Many here will like this. Gabbert #3? 4 QBs in the Top 10 and the Cardinals taking none of them?

Peterson to the Cardinals?

5. Cardinals -- Patrick Peterson* CB, LSU
Peterson needs to improve his cover skills, but his size, athleticism and return skills make him more attractive than Prince Amukamara. The Cardinals will look hard at a quarterback here as well. But they have a lot of needs and will go with the best available player.


Read more: http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/20.../2011-nfl-mock-draft/index.html#ixzz1ABPbdeOt

 

[Mulli]

Many here will like this. Gabbert #3? 4 QBs in the Top 10 and the Cardinals taking none of them?

Peterson to the Cardinals?

5. Cardinals -- Patrick Peterson* CB, LSU
Peterson needs to improve his cover skills, but his size, athleticism and return skills make him more attractive than Prince Amukamara. The Cardinals will look hard at a quarterback here as well. But they have a lot of needs and will go with the best available player.


Read more: http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/20.../2011-nfl-mock-draft/index.html#ixzz1ABPbdeOt

Countdown to A. Role comparisons.......3.2.1....

 

[The Commish]

I will continue saying this, but it wouldn't matter if we had Revis & Bailey as our CBs because they'd still get torched without having a pass rush. It's football 101.

 

[BigRedRage]

#1 on a CB would be a waste IMO, I would go round 2-4 or FA and bring them in to compete with Toler and DRC.

 

[Russ Smith]

I would love to see the 49ers draft Mallett.

 

[dreamcastrocks]

#1 on a CB would be a waste IMO, I would go round 2-4 or FA and bring them in to compete with Toler and DRC.

Exactly. CB is one of the positions I'm least concerned about.

 

[Stout]

I will continue saying this, but it wouldn't matter if we had Revis & Bailey as our CBs because they'd still get torched without having a pass rush. It's football 101.

Bingo. And drafting a CB in the 1st round while we already have starters is ludicrous. BPA is a great philosophy, but we have a ton of holes. Unless we look at this kid and absolutely don't think any other player can be as good as he is, then pass. I doubt he'll end up BPA anyway, with all the other talent that will be available to us.

 

[Seandonic]

I will continue saying this, but it wouldn't matter if we had Revis & Bailey as our CBs because they'd still get torched without having a pass rush. It's football 101.

You get two Fonzie thumbs up and an Exactamundo. I've also been preaching this for decades because as you said..."it's football 101."

 

[Mulli]

Exactly. CB is one of the positions I'm least concerned about.

i am very concerned about that position, but YES pass rush before db's.

 

[dreamcastrocks]

i am very concerned about that position, but YES pass rush before db's.

I am more concerned with QB, TE, C, OG, OT, OT, WR (if Breaston leaves) DE, OLB, ILB, SS all before CB.

 

[lobo]

I will continue saying this, but it wouldn't matter if we had Revis & Bailey as our CBs because they'd still get torched without having a pass rush. It's football 101.

Wrong!! It's actually remedial football 101.

 

[football karma]

Bingo. And drafting a CB in the 1st round while we already have starters is ludicrous. BPA is a great philosophy, but we have a ton of holes. Unless we look at this kid and absolutely don't think any other player can be as good as he is, then pass. I doubt he'll end up BPA anyway, with all the other talent that will be available to us.

you understand this is how Levi Brown came to be picked ahead of Adrian Peterson

 

[ajcardfan]

I believe CB is a position you avoid taking in the top 10. The rules are geared for CBs to fail more often that succeed, they can't make as much of an impact as a pass rusher.

 

[Stout]

you understand this is how Levi Brown came to be picked ahead of Adrian Peterson

Bzz, incorrect. That's why I said Unless we look at this kid and absolutely don't think any other player can be as good as he is. That means that, duh, if we think he's the best player bar none, then we'll draft him. By that measure, we would completely have ignored Levi Brown and drafted AP. Brown was clearly a need pick.

I'm just saying that, since we DO have many needs, we should fill them as long as the players we're looking to draft ARE the best players. This CB might be rated by us as the 5th best player in the draft. If we have one of the QBs as the 4th best player in the draft, it's a no-brainer. If we think this kid's the tops, of course we'll draft him.

 

[Pariah]

I'm not averse to Peterson as the pick if they think he's better than the other players on the board.

In a vacuum, I'd rather take the best OLB or OL prospect...but only if they're equal or better players. No reaching for position please (yes, Graves, I'm talking to you).

 

[TJ]

I will continue saying this, but it wouldn't matter if we had Revis & Bailey as our CBs because they'd still get torched without having a pass rush. It's football 101.

Agree. Our opposing qbs had too much time in the pocket to make all of their reads due to lack of pressure. When you give a qb that kind of time, inevitably he will find an open receiver. Even the most average wr can get separation on an elite corner for a couple of seconds

 

[Catfish]

Actually, with the exception of Leiv Brown, Whiz has a good history of trying to fill needs with FA's and using the draft for talent depth by BPA. While it may look like he drafted Williams for need last year, in actuallity Williams was the very best player available at that pick, (and he just happened to fill a big need for this team). In the long run, Whiz would have been foolish to pass on Williams.

 

[dreamcastrocks]

Actually, with the exception of Leiv Brown, Whiz has a good history of trying to fill needs with FA's and using the draft for talent depth by BPA. While it may look like he drafted Williams for need last year, in actuallity Williams was the very best player available at that pick, (and he just happened to fill a big need for this team). In the long run, Whiz would have been foolish to pass on Williams.

Eh, I don't know. You could argue that Beanie wasn't BPA, DRC (even though I was really high on the pick, he wasn't BPA, Levi obviously wasn't(which you mentioned)

Williams just happened to be there. If he wasn't we would have drafted Washington. I would argue that they instead of saying that they draft BPA, that they draft for need first, with Williams being the exception.

 

[football karma]

Eh, I don't know. You could argue that Beanie wasn't BPA, DRC (even though I was really high on the pick, he wasn't BPA, Levi obviously wasn't(which you mentioned)

Williams just happened to be there. If he wasn't we would have drafted Washington. I would argue that they instead of saying that they draft BPA, that they draft for need first, with Williams being the exception.

If you look back at both the 2008 and 2009 drafts, I think you could argue that both DRC and Beanie were the BPA at the time, or at least pretty close.

 

[slinslin]

Here is my draft plan.

1. Cam Newton

Then the other needs Offensive Line, Tight End, Linebacker.

Schofield looks promising for next season.

 

[slinslin]

I will continue saying this, but it wouldn't matter if we had Revis & Bailey as our CBs because they'd still get torched without having a pass rush. It's football 101.

Multiplied by having an absolutely horrendous offense that put that much more pressure on the defense.

 

[D-Dogg]

If you look back at both the 2008 and 2009 drafts, I think you could argue that both DRC and Beanie were the BPA at the time, or at least pretty close.

Definitely Wells, arguably DRC.

 

[football karma]

Definitely Wells, arguably DRC.

the thing is, once you get in the bottom half of the draft, usually you have a choice of two or three similarly ranked players. It increases the odds that one of them will be in a position a team can use help at.

In the top 10 or so -- it seems like every years there is a break where there are X number of truly elite players, and then it drops down a notch. It seems that number is always between 3-6.

 

[dreamcastrocks]

If you look back at both the 2008 and 2009 drafts, I think you could argue that both DRC and Beanie were the BPA at the time, or at least pretty close.

No way DRC was better than Chris Johnson and give me Laurinitis vs. Beanie, but at least that one is closer.

 

[TJ]

If you look back at both the 2008 and 2009 drafts, I think you could argue that both DRC and Beanie were the BPA at the time, or at least pretty close.

I believe it was a combination of BPA and position of need. At the time, of the 2008 draft, we had Rod Hood and Eric Green as our starting CBs. Eeek. DRC came in, started out playing nickel packages and in one year became a pro bowler. Not a bad pick IMO

The jury is still out on Beanie but regardless I think it was a good pick. All we had was an aging, dissatisfied Edge and a raw THT. We can argue that Laurenitis (sp) or Rey Maualuga, a guy I loved coming out of USC, were better picks, but Beanie was graded pretty high in the 2009 draft. Some had him ahead of Moreno, who went much earlier in that draft. I want to see what he does when he's 100% and has a halfway decent line blocking for us. He certainly passes the eye test, but he is a liability if hes not 100% or even off the field