Cojack Strikes Again

[devilalum]

How many times has this guy made a boneheaded play that led to a big inning?

Its not physical ability, he just doesn't seem to be able to keep his head in the game sometimes?!?!

 

[boondockdrunk]

How many times has this guy made a boneheaded play that led to a big inning?

Its not physical ability, he just doesn't seem to be able to keep his head in the game sometimes?!?!

He is not a natural 1st baseman and it does show in the games. However, if you watch him from the beginning of the season to now he has greatly improved (although he only had one way to go). Just give him more time to continue to improve.

 

[Ryanwb]

What was Jackson's natural position? I hate it when teams force righties on 1B, it's not a natural position for righties

 

[boondockdrunk]

What was Jackson's natural position? I hate it when teams force righties on 1B, it's not a natural position for righties

I believe in college he played 3rd and LF, but since he could not defensively cut it at either of those positions in the minors they eventually moved him to 1st. So he has only been playing this position for a year and a half, thus still makes mistakes.

 

[Phxchris1989]

How many times has this guy made a boneheaded play that led to a big inning?

Its not physical ability, he just doesn't seem to be able to keep his head in the game sometimes?!?!

He can make some heartbreaking errors (thinks about the June Phillies series), but he's a rookie. He's bound too make a few mistakes getting used to the Majors. If nothing else, at least he hits better than Tony Clark.

 

[Nasser22]

boondock, 3rd base? Damn, I wish he could play some D there because Tracy wasn't that bad at all at 1st.

 

[green machine]

Are you talking about the play where Hudson failed to cover first base on a bunt play? I failed to see how that was Jackson's fault.

 

[devilalum]

What was Jackson's natural position? I hate it when teams force righties on 1B, it's not a natural position for righties

Running to the center of the infield and just standing there on a bunt to the right side is bad whether you're a lefty or a righty.

If you're gonna field like Boog Powell then you better hit like Boog Powell.

I'm sure he'll be alright but he has made several STUPID plays.

 

[devilalum]

Are you talking about the play where Hudson failed to cover first base on a bunt play? I failed to see how that was Jackson's fault.

It was almost right at the pitcher. It was totally the first baseman's cover. Joe G agreed.

 

[green machine]

It was almost right at the pitcher. It was totally the first baseman's cover. Joe G agreed.

I was at the game...but I was told the radio guys said it was Hudson's fault. On the bunt play the first and third baseman are already charging in, regardless of where it goes, and it's the 2nd baseman's responsibility to cover 1st.

 

[coyoteshockeyfan]

It looked like a collective snafu on that play to me. Hudson should have been going to first, and Jackson appeared to be indecisive as to whether he was going to charge the ball or cover first, and ended up doing neither.

 

[AZZenny]

If we're going to trash corner infielders, let's be even-handed. Chad Tracy is defensively worse than Conor, by a substantial margin. His Es are pure lead-boot-and-stone-glove mistakes, whereas Conor's are largely mental -- and mental mistakes should improve with more experience -- that assumes he's getting some proper tutoring. Other than Chad's HR and Conor's rather appalling rate of hitting into DPs, offensive numbers aren't that different (Tracy OPS .787, CJ OPS .774; Tracy RBIs 57, CJ 52 with 100 less ABs)-- except Chad has almost 2.5 Ks per BB, and Conor is in the 1:1 range.

I'm fine with Tracy for now, but would consider moving him as part of a really good deal, and give Brian Barden a shot at third. At this point Tracy doesn't look to me like he'll ever be a strong defender. CJ it's still a little soon to know for sure how much he'll gain with another year of experience.

 

[Nasser22]

If Tracy can improve a little bit more then our D will be fine but he's a terrible 3rd baseman right now. He wasn't really that bad at first base or outfield though. I wish he could move there again. Every time I see a ground ball going Tracy's way I get prepared for an error. I like Tracy a lot and think he can be a really nice hitter for our line-up but I really hate seeing him at 3rd base.

 

[coyoteshockeyfan]

The same Brian Barden that could have been had (essentially) for free by any team in the rule five draft a few months ago?

 

[AZZenny]

The very same. Hey -- I would have picked him over Dan Uggla, but what did any of us know?

G AB R H 2B 3B HR RBI TB BB SO SB CS OBP SLG AVG
99 379 68 118 27 2 15 74 194 34 73 0 3 .375 .512 .311

 

[boondockdrunk]

Brian Barden has had a strikeout to walk ratio of 3.46:1 in his minor league career (a career OBP of .350) with a .302 BA). Let me put it this way, Scott Hairston has more walks (37) in 69 games this year than Barden (34) in 99 games. He has below-average power, plate discipline, and speed. His only positive in reports is that he has an above average glove and reminds scouts of a poor man's David Bell. In other words, not really an ideal starting 3rd baseman.

I think Tracy's problems stem from him trying to do too much. He seems to be over-aggresive during his ABs, swinging for the fences instead of putting the ball in play. However, if we are out of the race later on in the year I would like to see what Barden can do.

 

[PDXChris]

yup, he stikes again, this time with a go head 2 run homer

 

[Card Trader]

I'm hoping one day his bonehead plays and overall ineptness are outweighed by performances like today's. But as it stands now, he's got a heck of a long way to go to pull even.

 

[devilalum]

Yet another boneheaded play yesterday that led to a Cubs run.

Good thing the team scored 15 runs. Of course they weren't up by 15 at the time.

 

[BC867]

For the rest of the season, we'd be better off playing Shawn Green at 1B and moving Conor to the outfield.

But then he wouldn't be able to beat out Quentin or Hairston. He just hasn't shown the power for a 1B or corner outfielder.

Maybe Jackson is the prospect we should be trying to move. There is no position he has shown himself to be comfortable at.

 

[Ryanwb]

In any scenerio Shawn Green is the weak tit on this boar..... I hope he gets moved in a waver trade

 

[green machine]

For the rest of the season, we'd be better off playing Shawn Green at 1B and moving Conor to the outfield.

But then he wouldn't be able to beat out Quentin or Hairston. He just hasn't shown the power for a 1B or corner outfielder.

Maybe Jackson is the prospect we should be trying to move. There is no position he has shown himself to be comfortable at.

Didn't we make the mistake thinking Overbay didn't have enough power to play 1B? He seems to be a .300 hitter who will hit at least 20 HR's...I'd take that.

Let's not give up on CoJack, at least not because of his offense.

His defensive mistakes are not physical errors as much as they are just him being uncomfortable. Give him enough time and practice and he should become an adequate 1st baseman.

 

[devilalum]

Didn't we make the mistake thinking Overbay didn't have enough power to play 1B? He seems to be a .300 hitter who will hit at least 20 HR's...I'd take that.

Let's not give up on CoJack, at least not because of his offense.

His defensive mistakes are not physical errors as much as they are just him being uncomfortable. Give him enough time and practice and he should become an adequate 1st baseman.

Cojack is not a home run hitter. He may develop more power but I don't see it.

I rip on Jackson a lot but I also understand that he is young. Which is exactly why the Dbacks are crazy if they start Cojack, Young, Quentin and Drew next year. If this happens they will struggle badly.

 

[green machine]

Cojack is not a home run hitter. He may develop more power but I don't see it.

I rip on Jackson a lot but I also understand that he is young. Which is exactly why the Dbacks are crazy if they start Cojack, Young, Quentin and Drew next year. If this happens they will struggle badly.

What I was saying is that Overbay wasn't a home run hitter, and isn't one really. But he hits for a high enough average, drives in runs, and hits enough homers to be a legit threat.

I agree with you on the all young team next year, but that's why it is important to give at bats and playing time to guys like Drew and Quentin this year.

 

[Nasser22]

Drew, Quentin and Young are supposed to be good fielders and Drew has shown it so far. I don't think they'll be that bad, especially if Quentin gets more playing time now. If they can find a trade for Jackson then I'd go for it. I hate seeing Tracy at 3rd but he's servicable at 1st and that would free up a spot for him there.