Colt McCoy era ends

[BullheadCardFan]

Trade makes more sense now

But why wait so long?

Strange moves by the FO

Seems like another rookie mistake

 

[BritCard]

The lack of foresight this FO has is troubling to say the least.

He was under contract and his $5m deal carries $3.5m dead money.

In my opinion it would have been rash to do anything until you had a chance to see him in camp.

 

[football karma]

fwiw:

Calvisi said that Colt's play in both practices in Minnesota was alarmingly bad

a lot packed into that "fwiw"

 

[Cheesebeef]

Yup - new regime took their time to get to see what he had. He had nothing, so they moved on and got a replacement.

Not sure what the issue is.

The issue is a lack of foresight… and to be honest, talent evaluation. Even entertaining the idea of Colt McCoy being your stopgap starter going into the season was insipid stupidity AFAIC.

Or do you think it’s common for NFL teams to flat out cut their QB who ran with the #1s ALL OFF-SEASON ten days before the season starts.

The issue isn’t cutting him now. It was believing for even a nanosecond that he could/should open the season as your starter.

 

[BritCard]

Yup - new regime took their time to get to see what he had. He had nothing, so they moved on and got a replacement.

Not sure what the issue is.

In fact, it seems like something any sensible Org would do.

 

[Cheesebeef]

fwiw:

Calvisi said that Colt's play in both practices in Minnesota was alarmingly bad

a lot packed into that "fwiw"

He was alarmingly bad the majority of last season when he played.

 

[BritCard]

They were idiots to do all of that.

And his experience? He is an AWFUL Starting QB and even last year was a below average backup. That experience is meaningless when the overwhelming majority of it was bad to awful.

And they decided for 98% of the off-season, they were going with that trash to be their opening day starter. And now are facing starting a QB who will have what… ten days with the team and never even taken a pre-season snap to start the year… who they ALSO could have gotten much much earlier this season, but were literally a day late and a dollar short, continuing to show their lack of foresight there.

You're assuming Dobbs will start. I don't think he will.

 

[Arz101]

People hoping McCoy would replace Kyler 18 months ago..oooffff.

 

[Krangodnzr]

They were idiots to do all of that.

And his experience? He is an AWFUL Starting QB and even last year was a below average backup. That experience is meaningless when the overwhelming majority of it was bad to awful.

And they decided for 98% of the off-season, they were going with that trash to be their opening day starter. And now are facing starting a QB who will have what… ten days with the team and never even taken a pre-season snap to start the year… who they ALSO could have gotten much much earlier this season, but were literally a day late and a dollar short, continuing to show their lack of foresight there.

LOL at the outrage. This is a team that is clearly rebuilding. Rebuilding teams generally invest very little in back up QBs. It's better that way, they aren't competing anyway even with a high end backup.

 

[RON_IN_OC]

fwiw:

Calvisi said that Colt's play in both practices in Minnesota was alarmingly bad

a lot packed into that "fwiw"

His arm is toast.

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[dreamcastrocks]

Do we know officially it's not a Waived/Injured designation?

 

[BullheadCardFan]

Do we save on his salary and/or cap space?

 

[Chris_Sanders]

To me all of this speaks of a lack of unified vision with the front office.

McCoy being a Bidwill guy...Hard Knocks...

We probably had to get a complete disaster to move on.

 

[phillycard]

Best of luck Colt. Easy guy to root for and gave all that his capabilities allowed.

 

[Chris_Sanders]

You're assuming Dobbs will start. I don't think he will.

My guess is he starts week 3 after Tune's 1-4 TD to Int Ratio in the first two weeks

 

[RON_IN_OC]

To me all of this speaks of a lack of unified vision with the front office.

McCoy being a Bidwill guy...Hard Knocks...

We probably had to get a complete disaster to move on.

Honestly, there could be something to that...same with Simmons. Could very well the FO had to prove, without a shadow of a doubt that both guys needed to be let go.

 

[WiscoBird]

Anybody trying to spin giving most of the 1st team reps in camp to a guy you cut before the first game is crazy.

I have no problem with cutting him. How it took you 6 months to figure out he would not be the starter is just horrendous. If this was Keim and KK it would be a meltdown.

 

[Krangodnzr]

The issue is a lack of foresight… and to be honest, talent evaluation. Even entertaining the idea of Colt McCoy being your stopgap starter going into the season was insipid stupidity AFAIC.

Or do you think it’s common for NFL teams to flat out cut their QB who ran with the #1s ALL OFF-SEASON ten days before the season starts.

The issue isn’t cutting him now. It was believing for even a nanosecond that he could/should open the season as your starter.

I find it funny that on one hand people say they're tanking and then on the other hand complain about moves like this.

Teams can only glean so much from training camp practices. Much more can be gleaned from games or from partnered practices. That's what happened here. McCoy looked like butts in both games and in the practices.

 

[dreamcastrocks]

To me all of this speaks of a lack of unified vision with the front office.

McCoy being a Bidwill guy...Hard Knocks...

We probably had to get a complete disaster to move on.

I don't necessarily agree with this either. If this saves us even more cap space and he wasn't the guy, then why not do it?

They weren't going to bring in a 6-10M dollar backup with Colt on the roster. And they traded for Dobbs, who they think is an upgrade over Colt. (I'd assume)

I'd argue that this speaks more that they have a plan, then not.

 

[dreamcastrocks]

Anybody trying to spin giving most of the 1st team reps in camp to a guy you cut before the first game is crazy.

I have no problem with cutting him. How it took you 6 months to figure out he would not be the starter is just horrendous. If this was Keim and KK it would be a meltdown.

That is completely fair. Although he was splitting time with Tune for most of the preseason, right?

 

[Krangodnzr]

Anybody trying to spin giving most of the 1st team reps in camp to a guy you cut before the first game is crazy.

I have no problem with cutting him. How it took you 6 months to figure out he would not be the starter is just horrendous. If this was Keim and KK it would be a meltdown.

This is pretty similar, but less egregious, than the Leinart/Anderson situation.

 

[Chris_Sanders]

I don't necessarily agree with this either. If this saves us even more cap space and he wasn't the guy, then why not do it?

They weren't going to bring in a 6-10M dollar backup with Colt on the roster. And they traded for Dobbs, who they think is an upgrade over Colt. (I'd assume)

I'd argue that this speaks more that they have a plan, then not.

He has a 2.5 million dollar guaranteed salary. I am going to take a solid stab that Bidwill didn't want to just give that away for free.

 

[PJ1]

The trade makes sense now. Not sure when the light went on that the arm was shot. Strange.

 

[BirdGangThing]

I've been calling him Colt McCoach for awhile now but with a new staff and a new offense and with Kyler turning over a new leaf... just makes sense

And I'm too upset about the timing - but it's clearly why Monti dropped a 5th for Dobbs - who sucks balls but is very familiar with our new playbook

It's Tune time baby

 

[dreamcastrocks]

He has a 2.5 million dollar guaranteed salary. I am going to take a solid stab that Bidwill didn't want to just give that away for free.

..and why should he?

Let's look at it another way. Did you not think that Colt should be released? Is there more to gain with Colt starting, or with Tune/Dobbs starting while we wait for Kyler to rehab?