Compensation for Budenholzer?

[CardsSunsDbacks]

He’s interested in the Bucks job according to reports. He was even directly asked about it. I think he has interest in both the Suns & Bucks job. So now it comes down to which team Hawks want to trade with and that’s where assets come to play.

Good news is that Bucks don’t have many draft picks to offer (they only have their own, don’t own any other teams) and only draft picks can be traded for coaches per CBA.

I don't think it will work like that. Bud will decide where he wants to coach and then the Hawks will then work with that team to get compensation. Coaches don't get traded in the same way that players do and thus a trade would simply be compensating the Hawks for dissolving the contract.

 

[Ouchie-Z-Clown]

I don't think it will work like that. Bud will decide where he wants to coach and then the Hawks will then work with that team to get compensation. Coaches don't get traded in the same way that players do and thus a trade would simply be compensating the Hawks for dissolving the contract.

Agree

 

[JCSunsfan]

He’s interested in the Bucks job according to reports. He was even directly asked about it. I think he has interest in both the Suns & Bucks job. So now it comes down to which team Hawks want to trade with and that’s where assets come to play.

Good news is that Bucks don’t have many draft picks to offer (they only have their own, don’t own any other teams) and only draft picks can be traded for coaches per CBA.

Again. Its not about the Hawks. Its about which team can convince Bud to be their coach. The advantage for the Suns is that the can put an offer on the table now (and it should be very generous) AND that he has roots to the area. It should also be a long term contract. Once Bud decides where he wants to go, that team can work out whatever is necessary with the Hawks.

 

[Mainstreet]

Again. Its not about the Hawks. Its about which team can convince Bud to be their coach. The advantage for the Suns is that the can put an offer on the table now (and it should be very generous) AND that he has roots to the area. It should also be a long term contract. Once Bud decides where he wants to go, that team can work out whatever is necessary with the Hawks.

However, if Bud is open to taking both jobs then compensation could be a factor.

The Hawks could make it easier for Bud to go to the Bucks if they are willing to offer compensation whereas they could drag their feet with the Suns if they offer none.

I have not heard Bud only wants to come to the Suns.

Let's look at it another way. Bud is a restricted free agent.

 

[Folster]

Watch the Bucks trade their #17 pick to get Bud. That would be how it goes down for the Suns.

 

[Superbone]

If we get Ayton I could coach this team.

Well I could!

Sure... badly. "D'oh! We lost the first game of the season. Sorry boys but the tank is on! Booker, you are out of the rotation. Peters, Reed, and House get ready for a lot of playing time."

 

[pokerface]

Sure... badly. "D'oh! We lost the first game of the season. Sorry boys but the tank is on! Booker, you are out of the rotation. Peters, Reed, and House get ready for a lot of playing time."

Well towards the end of the season the tank train felt pretty full.

 

[Superbone]

Well towards the end of the season the tank train felt pretty full.

Yeah, well I'm referring more to the beginning of the season.

 

[Hoop Head]

If we get Ayton I could coach this team.


Well I could!

Sure... badly. "D'oh! We lost the first game of the season. Sorry boys but the tank is on! Booker, you are out of the rotation. Peters, Reed, and House get ready for a lot of playing time."

Don't forget about setting army style regulations for players hair. "Josh, if you want to be a starter you need to take about 2-3 inches off of your afro. We need to get that under control before you grow a duck bill like Elfrid Payton."

 

[pokerface]

Yeah, well I'm referring more to the beginning of the season.

Let's just say I saw the endgame sooner

 

[pokerface]

Don't forget about setting army style regulations for players hair. "Josh, if you want to be a starter you need to take about 2-3 inches off of your afro. We need to get that under control before you grow a duck bill like Elfrid Payton."

I don't mind Jackson's hair. I think JJ is a cool cat.

And yeah no floppy hat hair styles.

 

[Phrazbit]

Let's just say I saw the endgame sooner

Hmm... not really. I think most people felt the team was safely going to be in the cellar regardless and we didn't need to pull the plug on players early.

Look back at my posts at the start of the year, I was labeled an "anti-tanker", despite that I am fine with tanking, but I said repeatedly "we're going to be one of the 3 worst teams, we don't need to shut guys down in November/December". In 16/17 we didn't start "tanking" until the all-star break, we finished with the second worst record, this year we didn't go balls deep on tanking until around the same time, finished with the worst record.

Tanking from day 1 is embarrassing and unnecessary. It's a long season, there is plenty of time to suck.

 

[pokerface]

Hmm... not really. I think most people felt the team was safely going to be in the cellar regardless and we didn't need to pull the plug on players early.

Look back at my posts at the start of the year, I was labeled an "anti-tanker", despite that I am fine with tanking, but I said repeatedly "we're going to be one of the 3 worst teams, we don't need to shut guys down in November/December". In 16/17 we didn't start "tanking" until the all-star break, we finished with the second worst record, this year we didn't go balls deep on tanking until around the same time, finished with the worst record.

Tanking from day 1 is embarrassing and unnecessary. It's a long season, there is plenty of time to suck.

The suns tank got "lucky" so to speak when certain players had to sit during the season.

Yeah I called for the tank from day one because I don't believe in taking things for granted. Everyone knew the suns were going to be bad but no one knows to what level...they just suspect. I wanted max tank because this is a special draft and five wins either way can make a huge difference.

 

[BC867]

Watch the Bucks trade their #17 pick to get Bud. That would be how it goes down for the Suns.

With our over abundance of young players, and more coming during the draft (is there room on the team for all of them?), if it takes the #17 pick to stop the revolving door of Head Coaches, I say it's worth it.

An experienced, quality Head Coach (hardly the turnover crews that have been leading the Suns for years) makes a big difference in a team's potential -- in the way they play and attract quality players.

Even though Triano did not like the miscellaneous responsibilities of being Head Coach, it is an important part of the job. We need a complete Head Coach long term.

 

[Cheesebeef]

Hmm... not really. I think most people felt the team was safely going to be in the cellar regardless and we didn't need to pull the plug on players early.

Look back at my posts at the start of the year, I was labeled an "anti-tanker", despite that I am fine with tanking, but I said repeatedly "we're going to be one of the 3 worst teams, we don't need to shut guys down in November/December". In 16/17 we didn't start "tanking" until the all-star break, we finished with the second worst record, this year we didn't go balls deep on tanking until around the same time, finished with the worst record.

Tanking from day 1 is embarrassing and unnecessary. It's a long season, there is plenty of time to suck.

Yeah... the Sixers seem super embarrassed.

 

[JS22]

Watch the Bucks trade their #17 pick to get Bud. That would be how it goes down for the Suns.

Why would you put that evil on the Suns ...

That said, I'd flip next years Milwaukee pick and not think twice about it. And this years Miami pick with some feigned hesitation.

 

[Phrazbit]

Yeah... the Sixers seem super embarrassed.

Did we finish with the worst record? Yes.

Did we need to tank from day 1? No.

Was all of the chicken little "OMG WE CANT EVEN TANK RIGHT" stuff stupid, premature and cancer to the board? Yes.

 

[JCSunsfan]

With our over abundance of young players, and more coming during the draft (is there room on the team for all of them?), if it takes the #17 pick to stop the revolving door of Head Coaches, I say it's worth it.

An experienced, quality Head Coach (hardly the turnover crews that have been leading the Suns for years) makes a big difference in a team's potential -- in the way they play and attract quality players.

Even though Triano did not like the miscellaneous responsibilities of being Head Coach, it is an important part of the job. We need a complete Head Coach long term.

Wow. Bud is a coach even BC might like.

 

[Hoop Head]

I don't mind Jackson's hair. I think JJ is a cool cat.

And yeah no floppy hat hair styles.

I read something about Jackson planned on getting cornrows for next season. I blame Bledsoe for starting the hair talk that ended up being continued throughout the season. He started it all with his BS "At the hair salon" excuse for his "I don't want to be here" tweet.

 

[pokerface]

I read something about Jackson planned on getting cornrows for next season. I blame Bledsoe for starting the hair talk that ended up being continued throughout the season. He started it all with his BS "At the hair salon" excuse for his "I don't want to be here" tweet.

Bledsoe has nothing to do with any of this

 

[Cheesebeef]

Bledsoe has nothing to do with any of this

I’m really hoping that was just a terrible joke.

 

[pokerface]

I’m really hoping that was just a terrible joke.

Payton had that flip flop before Bled opened his yap.

 

[Phrazbit]

I read something about Jackson planned on getting cornrows for next season. I blame Bledsoe for starting the hair talk that ended up being continued throughout the season. He started it all with his BS "At the hair salon" excuse for his "I don't want to be here" tweet.

Mmmmmmm... sarcasm? That theory is stretched thinner than Thibodeau's hair.

 

[sunsfan88]

Again. Its not about the Hawks. Its about which team can convince Bud to be their coach. The advantage for the Suns is that the can put an offer on the table now (and it should be very generous) AND that he has roots to the area. It should also be a long term contract. Once Bud decides where he wants to go, that team can work out whatever is necessary with the Hawks.

Not sure how I wasn't clear earlier, you realize that it's possible for Bud to be interested in two teams right? He could be okay with coaching either one. Bucks for winning purposes because of their ready to win now roster and Phoenix because of ties to his family.

However, if Bud is open to taking both jobs then compensation could be a factor.

Exactly. People need to stop assuming that Bud can only pick one team...he can have interest in two teams and then let the Hawks decide which one to send him to.

 

[Ouchie-Z-Clown]

Did we finish with the worst record? Yes.

Did we need to tank from day 1? No.

Was all of the chicken little "OMG WE CANT EVEN TANK RIGHT" stuff stupid, premature and cancer to the board? Yes.

It wasn’t a cancer to the board. It was opinion. It was posters attacking other posters for having that opinion that was the cancer.