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1 (1) Texans Reggie Bush* RB USC
GM Charley Casserly says he is open for trade business, but it is unlikely any team will offer the booty required to get this valuable pick. So, that will leave the Texans to select the most versatile offensive threat in the draft and team him with RB Domanick Davis.

2 (2) Saints Matt Leinart QB USC
There are rumblings that QB Drew Brees might not be able to carry a full load in training camp. By drafting Leinart, the Saints could give him plenty of work in preseason and training camp, then have him watch and learn during the regular season and be ready to go in 2007. Brees' contract basically is a one-year deal with a team option to turn it into a long-team deal.

3 (3) Titans D'Brickashaw Ferguson T Va.
The Titans are playing contract hardball with veteran QB Steve McNair and could move up to get Leinart. The team, however, won't take Vince Young or Jay Cutler at No. 3. If the Titans stay here, they'll go for Ferguson. The Titans' coaches worked with Ferguson at the Senior Bowl and say he could be the cornerstone to anchor their offensive line for at least the next decade.

4 (4) Jets A.J. Hawk OLB Ohio St.
If the Saints entertain trade offers for the No. 2 pick, the Jets certainly will be interested. If forced to stay put, the Jets will take Hawk to team with Jonathan Vilma to form the nucleus of the 3-4 scheme under new coach Eric Mangini.

5 (5) Packers Mario Williams* DE NC State
Despite the re-signing of DE Aaron Kampman, the Packers would have a tough time passing on Williams' size, strength and speed. Green Bay could use him in a three-man rotation with Kampman and Kabeer Gbaja-Biamila to give the team a formidable and fresh pass rush.

6 (6) 49ers Haloti Ngata* DT Oregon
San Francisco has undersized Anthony Adams (5-11, 297) penciled in at nose tackle but obviously needs more size. Ngata (6-4, 338) has the size and quickness to make an immediate impact in the Niners' 3-4 alignment.

7 (7) Raiders Winston Justice* T USC
High-ranking Raiders officials did not leave Justice's side during Southern Cal's on-campus workouts April 2. Who could blame them? It's not often that a 320-pound man shows off a 39-inch vertical leap and runs the 40-yard dash in 5.0 seconds. Justice would start immediately at right tackle and allow Robert Gallery to shift back to his more comfortable left side.

8 (8) Bills Michael Huff S Texas
If Ngata and Williams are off the board, Buffalo would take the value pick -- Huff, who has the size and speed to play safety and the ball skills to play cornerback. Troy Vincent is entering his 15th season and Coy Wire lacks ideal size, so Huff could contribute immediately to a unit that struggled last year.

9 (9) Lions Tye Hill CB Clemson
The Lions' cornerback depth behind veteran starters Dre' Bly and Fernando Bryant is awful. Hill is tough and might be the best in this draft at playing bump-and-run coverage. Hill wants NFL teams to know he is not just another speedster.

10 (10) Cardinals Vernon Davis* TE Maryland
Arizona might need three footballs on offense to keep all of its playmakers happy. Davis is the best receiver in the '06 draft and is a tight end. He shows good hands, the speed to stretch the field and would bring another dimension to an already potent offense that just added RB Edgerrin James. There finally is an oasis in the desert.

11 (11) Rams Vince Young* QB Texas
New coach Scott Linehan was the offensive coordinator who oversaw the development of Daunte Culpepper in Minnesota and sees some common traits in Young. And Young wouldn't be under pressure to play right away and could sit for a couple of years behind Marc Bulger.

12 (12) Browns DeMeco Ryans OLB Alabama
Outside linebacker is the key position in coach Romeo Crennel's defense. Ryans is instinctive, aggressive and fast. He is strong against the run and can play in coverage and rush the passer. He would be a good, young complement to veteran OLB Willie McGinest.

13 (13) Ravens Brodrick Bunkley DT Florida St.
Bunkley is a little undersized, but he is quick and athletic and could be a disruptive force in the middle of the Ravens' attacking defense.

14 (14) Eagles Chad Jackson* WR Florida
WR Reggie Brown, a second-round pick last year, played well down the stretch in '05 but lacks Jackson's big-play ability.

15 (15) Broncos Mathias Kiwanuka DE Boston Coll.
(from Atlanta) The Broncos' failing in the AFC Championship Game was a result of their inability to pressure the quarterback. Despite a collection of ex-Browns defensive linemen, Denver still lacks a dominant pass rusher. Kiwanuka would contribute right away as a wave rusher and eventually displace Courtney Brown or Kenard Lang.

16 (16) Dolphins Jimmy Williams CB Va. Tech
The Dolphins lack a shutdown cornerback. Williams is no workout warrior, but he is big and physical. Coach Nick Saban would love to add Williams' attitude to his improving defense.

17 (17) Vikings Jay Cutler QB Vandy
Culpepper's trade to Miami might have secured Cutler's spot in Minnesota.

18 (18) Cowboys Marcus McNeill T Auburn
Both LT Flozell Adams and RT Jason Fabini missed time because of injuries last season. Both are entering their ninth NFL season, and McNeill has the size and athletic ability to play either tackle spot.

19 (19) Chargers Santonio Holmes* WR Ohio St.
Keenan McCardell is the Chargers' best wide receiver, and Eric Parker is a distant second. Holmes has speed to burn and plenty of big-play ability and would add another dimension to an already potent offense. Holmes also is a dangerous return man.

20 (20) Chiefs Antonio Cromartie* CB Florida St.
Cromartie, who had major knee surgery in July 2005, had a great workout for scouts in March and shows better hands than many wide receivers. He appears to be completely healed, and his speed and ball skills would fit perfectly in coach Herman Edwards' defense that places an emphasis on forcing turnovers.

21 (21) Patriots Chad Greenway OLB Iowa
The Patriots need an outside linebacker with the speed to rush off the edge and the toughness to stuff the run at the point of attack. Greenway didn't test particularly well in the pre-draft workouts, but he plays like his hair is on fire and always is around the ball. He is the kind of big-effort player coach Bill Belichick loves.

22 (22) Broncos Leonard Pope* TE Georgia
(from Washington) The Broncos lack a true threat in the red zone. Pope is 6-7 and has a 37-inch vertical; he could become an elite go-to guy near the goal line.

23 (23) Buccaneers Thomas Howard OLB UTEP
Is it possible that Derrick Brooks already is entering his 12th season? It is. The Bucs must begin to shore up their aging defense, which relies on speed and quickness.

24 (24) Bengals Nick Mangold C Ohio St.
Rich Braham is nearing the end of his career. Mangold could take over quickly as the line-caller to protect franchise quarterback Carson Palmer for many years.

25 (25) Giants Ernie Sims* OLB Florida St.
Sims is blazing fast and makes plays from sideline to sideline. The Giants' linebacker corps was decimated by injuries last year, and the team won't get caught short again.

26 (26) Bears Johnathan Joseph* CB S. Carolina
With CB Charles Tillman expected to move to safety and CB Jerry Azumah announcing his retirement, Joseph would fill a big need for the Bears.

27 (27) Panthers Laurence Maroney* RB Minnesota
DeShaun Foster re-signed but has a long history of getting hurt, so Maroney would bring needed depth.

28 (28) Jaguars Manny Lawson DE NC State
Lawson (6-5, 241) runs the 40-yard dash in a stunning 4.4 seconds. He is the edge rusher the Jaguars lack to complement stud defensive tackles John Henderson and Marcus Stroud.

29 (29) Jets Davin Joseph G Oklahoma
(from Denver through Atlanta) With the departure of Kevin Mawae, Pete Kendall will be moved to center. Jonathan Goodwin is gone, and Jason Fabini now is in Dallas. That leaves Brandon Moore as the only starting-caliber guard. Scouts love Joseph, and many consider him the best run blocker in the draft.

30 (30) Colts DeAngelo Williams RB Memphis
The Colts must replace Edgerrin James. Williams (5-8, 208) lacks height but shows excellent speed and hits holes hard, necessary tools for Indianapolis' trademark stretch plays.

31 (31) Seahawks Ashton Youboty* CB Ohio St.
Youboty is a polished cornerback with excellent speed and athletic ability and would give the Seahawks needed depth to handle the aerial attacks of division foes St. Louis and Arizona.

32 (32) Steelers Rodrique Wright DT Texas
Wright could play end or tackle in the Steelers' 3-4 scheme, and the team needs to start working
 
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1 (33) Texans Eric Winston T Miami (FL)
The Texans must upgrade their offensive line again to keep David Carr upright.

2 (34) Saints Bobby Carpenter OLB Ohio St.
For years, the Saints have been looking for a playmaking linebacker.

3 (35) Jets Gabe Watson DT Michigan
To convert to the 3-4 scheme, the Jets need a massive nose tackle. Watson is a wide body who could occupy blockers to allow the linebackers to roam free.

4 (36) Packers Max Jean-Gilles G Georgia
Jean-Gilles plays with a mean streak and is an aggressive run blocker. He would be a high-value pick at No. 36.

5 (37) Raiders Ko Simpson* S S. Carolina
The Raiders' secondary was terrible in 2005, and the team is dangerously thin at safety. Simpson would start immediately.

6 (38) 49ers Jason Allen S Tennessee
Allen (6-0, 215) has good size and runs the 40-yard dash in 4.3 seconds. He has the speed, range and instincts to anchor the Niners' secondary.

7 (39) Titans Abdul Hodge ILB Iowa
The team signed speedy David Thornton away from Indianapolis to play outside linebacker, so Hodge would help fill a need inside.

8 (40) Lions Claude Wroten DT LSU
Coach Rod Marinelli coached Warren Sapp to his best seasons in Tampa Bay. Wroten is similar to Sapp in terms of skills and attitude.

9 (41) Cardinals Brodie Croyle QB Alabama
Kurt Warner has a strong arm but is no spring chicken. If the offensive line doesn't improve and Warner gets hurt again, John Navarre would be next in line. That can't help Dennis Green sleep easy, considering all the effort he has put into building this offense. Croyle has a strong arm, is tough and shows great leadership qualities.

10 (42) Bills Tamba Hali DE Penn State
Hali was a productive pass rusher in college but struggled in pre-draft workouts and thus dropped into the middle of the second round. Still, Buffalo could use another wave rusher to help Chris Kelsay and Aaron Schobel pressure quarterbacks.

11 (43) Browns Taitusi Lutui G USC
Lutui's stock is rising after a fantastic performance at Southern Cal's on-campus workout April 2 for scouts, coaches and GMs. Lutui has great size and athleticism, and he would fit well with interior linemen Joe Andruzzi and LeCharles Bentley should the team trade or release center Jeff Faine.

12 (44) Ravens Darnell Bing* S USC
Baltimore needs a complement to All-Pro free safety Ed Reed. Bing has the speed, athleticism and range to allow Reed to freelance and make plays on the ball.

13 (45) Eagles LenDale White* RB USC
White -- once thought to be a mid-Round 1 prospect -- is falling fast down draft boards around the league. The Eagles, however, would be happy to take him at No. 45. White can run over defenders and would be a great complement to speedy RB Brian Westbrook.

14 (46) Rams Marcedes Lewis TE UCLA
The Rams will diversify their passing game under new coach Scott Linehan, and they need a tight end capable of making plays in the deep middle of the field.

15 (47) Falcons Joseph Addai RB LSU
T.J. Duckett and Warrick Dunn still could be salary-cap casualties, and Addai has the size and speed to be a threat inside and outside.

16 (48) Vikings Kelly Jennings CB Miami (FL)
Speed is Jennings' greatest asset. He could play right away as a nickel back alongside starting CBs Antoine Winfield and Fred Smoot.

17 (49) Cowboys Pat Watkins S Florida St.
Watkins has good size and speed and is the perfect center fielder with good range and ball skills. He excels in zone coverage and can cover a lot of ground, which would free up Roy Williams to play closer to the line of scrimmage.

18 (50) Chargers Richard Marshall* CB Fresno St.
Marshall has great speed and would allow the Chargers to move Sammy Davis inside to safety. Marshall has the speed to excel in man coverage and will allow the aging Knight to be more productive in center field.

19 (51) Vikings D'Qwell Jackson ILB Maryland
(from Miami) E.J. Henderson hasn't been as productive as needed, so look for the new Terp to replace the old one.

20 (52) Patriots Derek Hagan WR Arizona St.
The knock on Hagan had been a lack of speed, but he disposed that issue with great pre-draft workouts. WR Deion Branch has been limited by injuries, Troy Brown is on the downside of his career and newly signed Reche Caldwell hasn't been very productive in the NFL. Hagan is polished, shows good hands and could contribute immediately for New England.

21 (53) Redskins Donte Whitner* S Ohio St.
FS Sean Taylor is tied up in legal proceedings, and new SS Adam Archuleta has been banged up in recent seasons. Whitner would give Washington a viable backup, and he has the size, speed and coverage skills to contribute in nickel and dime packages.

22 (54) Chiefs Kamerion Wimbley DE Florida St.
DE Jared Allen often was a one-man pass rush last year because his teammates lacked the skill to generate much pressure. The Chiefs need a solid two-way player on the left side to take pressure off of Allen.

23 (55) Bengals Orien Harris DT Miami (FL)
Cincinnati can create pressure from the edge but needs an inside force to collapse the pocket. The Bengals are contemplating a switch to a two-gap scheme, and Harris has the strength and versatility to play in that kind of system.

24 (56) Giants Alan Zemaitis CB Penn State
The Giants signed a lot of defensive backs in free agency, but Zemaitis has good size, speed and ball skills to develop into a starter.

25 (57) Bears Sinorice Moss WR Miami (FL)
The Bears have a big possession receiver in Muhsin Muhammad but need someone to stretch the field. Moss has excellent speed and great leaping ability and will fight for jump balls.

26 (58) Panthers Daniel Bullocks S Nebraska
With Thomas Davis shifting to outside linebacker, the Panthers need depth at safety. Bullocks has the size and speed to cover a lot of ground.

27 (59) Buccaneers DeMario Minter CB Georgia
The Bucs need depth in the secondary now and should start thinking about the future because cornerbacks Ronde Barber and Brian Kelly are in their 30s.

28 (60) Jaguars Anthony Fasano* TE Notre Dame
TE Kyle Brady is built like a house and is an excellent blocker, but the Jaguars need more of a receiving threat at the position. Fasano is a tough, blue-collar kid who can block and catch and will fight for every yard after a catch.

29 (61) Broncos Maurice Stovall WR Notre Dame
Rod Smith is soon to turn 36, and No. 2 man Ashley Lelie is terminally inconsistent. Several NFL teams like Stovall because he runs well, shows good hands and has experience in coach Charlie Weis' pro-style offense.

30 (62) Colts Jon Alston OLB Stanford
Alston is the prototypical outside linebacker for the Tampa-2 scheme. He lacks ideal size but has the speed and range to make plays all over the field. He would be a fine replacement for free-agent loss David Thornton.

31 (63) Seahawks Ray Edwards* DE Purdue
Seattle must add youth and depth behind pass rushers Bryce Fisher and Grant Wistrom, especially after losing out in the John Abraham sweepstakes.

32 (64) Steelers Demetrice Webb* CB Florida
Steelers still need depth at cornerback despite re-signing Deshea Townsend.
 
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1 (65) Texans Darryl Tapp DE Va. Tech

2 (66) Texans Joe Klopfenstein TE Colorado
(from New Orleans)

3 (67) Packers Rocky McIntosh OLB Miami (FL)

4 (68) 49ers A.J. Nicholson OLB Florida St.

5 (69) Raiders Jonathan Lewis DT Va. Tech

6 (70) Bills Dusty Dvoracek DT Oklahoma
(from Tennessee)

7 (71) Jets Ryan O'Callaghan T Cal

8 (72) Cardinals Andrew Whitworth T LSU

9 (73) Bills Jonathan Scott T Texas

10 (74) Lions Daryn Colledge T Boise St.

11 (75) Patriots Tim Jennings CB Georgia
(from Baltimore)

12 (76) Eagles John McCargo* DT NC State

13 (77) Rams Mark Anderson DE Alabama

14 (78) Browns Jesse Mahelona DT Tennessee

15 (79) Falcons Anwar Phillips CB Penn State
(from Denver)

16 (80) Cowboys Charles Spencer G Pitt

17 (81) Chargers Barry Cofield DT N'western

18 (82) Dolphins Gerris Wilkinson OLB Georgia Tech

19 (83) Vikings Tony Scheffler TE W. Michigan

20 (84) 49ers Travis Wilson WR Oklahoma
(from Washington)

21 (85) Chiefs Bernard Pollard* S Purdue

22 (86) Patriots Greg Blue S Georgia

23 (87) Giants Manaia Brown DT BYU

24 (88) Bears David Thomas TE Texas

25 (89) Panthers Dominique Byrd TE USC

26 (90) Buccaneers Michael Robinson WR Penn State

27 (91) Bengals James Wyche DE Syracuse

28 (92) Jaguars Brian Calhoun* RB Wis.

29 (93) Falcons Eric Henderson DE Georgia Tech
(from Denver)

30 (94) Colts Devin Hester* CB Miami (FL)

31 (95) Vikings Rob Sims G Ohio St.
(from Seattle)

32 (96) Steelers Anthony Smith S Syracuse

33 (97) Jets Charlie Whitehurst QB Clemson
 

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BACH said:
PICK TEAM PLAYER POS SCHOOL

6 (6) 49ers Haloti Ngata* DT Oregon
San Francisco has undersized Anthony Adams (5-11, 297) penciled in at nose tackle but obviously needs more size. Ngata (6-4, 338) has the size and quickness to make an immediate impact in the Niners' 3-4 alignment.
SF also has Isaac Sopoaga whom they are high on. I don't see them taking Ngata. I think it is much more likely that they take Vernon Davis.
 

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Whew... I love Vernon Davis, but it'll be hard to turn in that Card with Vince Young staring you right in the eye...
 

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I'd be disapointed if we didn't address the oline until pick 3, especially if it means that we took a QB in round two.
 

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What would you all think of LenDale White as a 2nd rounder if avail.? The War Room has him not going until 45 to the Eagles.
 

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SuperSpck said:
I'd be disapointed if we didn't address the oline until pick 3, especially if it means that we took a QB in round two.

Why? It's been made pretty clear that o-linemen don't contribute in their rookie seasons except in very rare cases. Why not get a player in the first two picks who can?
 

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Why? It's been made pretty clear that o-linemen don't contribute in their rookie seasons except in very rare cases. Why not get a player in the first two picks who can?
Really? I know you put out an argument in another thread but it was not that definitive...heck on our own OL we had contributions from Brown and Step in there rookie years and Big in his rookie year. Are they Top 5 in the league no...but at the 10 pick you look for guys that can contribute right away not be Jonethen Ogden there first season. Your argument makes sense if we are picking in the top 5 but at 10 to 15 players are hit and miss. If VY is there let some team that is already at the top (Denver) take him and develop him. We need to address our OL and DL with guys that can make the other guys on our team around them better. Justice can contribute right away so could Mcneil....VY will sit for 2 seasons and may never be a top Qb. I don't see DG changing his Offense for VY ala M. Vick and Atl. I say go with a safer pick. Hawk won't be there but thats what I would pick. After that go for a guy on the Lines. Then get a LB or S in the 3rd.
 

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Stepanovich was the weak link on our o-line his rookie season. Elton Brown was the weak link as a rookie when he wasn't injured. Neither made what anyone here would call "significant positive contributions" as rookies. Leonard Davis was okay as a rookie but he wasn't dominating, and he was the #2 overall pick.

Rookie offensive and defensive linemen take the same 1-2 years to develop as quarterbacks and wide receivers. The positions that generally have the greatest impact as rookies are Tight Ends, Cornerbacks, running backs and linebackers.

Rats, say that you hate the talent along both lines if you want, but don't pretend like replacing those guys with draft picks is going to make a difference in getting the Cardinals to the playoffs this season. I've already explained why I expect the offensive line to be better next season (health, continuity, & better coaching) and why the defensive line isn't as bad as you apparently think it is (Top 10 in rushing defense in the NFL, upgrade at NT & returning Bertrand Berry and Calvin Pace). I'm not going to go in-depth into it again. You don't waste Top 10 picks on depth players, which is what drafting an OL or DL would be.
 

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kerouac9 said:
Stepanovich was the weak link on our o-line his rookie season. Elton Brown was the weak link as a rookie when he wasn't injured. Neither made what anyone here would call "significant positive contributions" as rookies. Leonard Davis was okay as a rookie but he wasn't dominating, and he was the #2 overall pick.

Rookie offensive and defensive linemen take the same 1-2 years to develop as quarterbacks and wide receivers. The positions that generally have the greatest impact as rookies are Tight Ends, Cornerbacks, running backs and linebackers.

Rats, say that you hate the talent along both lines if you want, but don't pretend like replacing those guys with draft picks is going to make a difference in getting the Cardinals to the playoffs this season. I've already explained why I expect the offensive line to be better next season (health, continuity, & better coaching) and why the defensive line isn't as bad as you apparently think it is (Top 10 in rushing defense in the NFL, upgrade at NT & returning Bertrand Berry and Calvin Pace). I'm not going to go in-depth into it again. You don't waste Top 10 picks on depth players, which is what drafting an OL or DL would be.
Then why if Justice was drafted by us do most see us starting him at RT and moving Ross to guard? The talent on both lines is thin. We gave up 4.0 yards a carry and 20 plus rushing Tds last season. Those stats lead to 5-11 and 6-10 seasons. Continuity on the lines helps, coaching should make a difference but adding starter caliber players rather than signing backups would help the most. OL learn on the job in the trenches rather than on the 2nd or 3rd team like a Qb does. Justice or Mcneil would be on the field learning this season rather than a VY learning like a Navarre is learning. They would have more of an impact IMO.
 

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Add to the fact that Bert Berry and Oliver Ross aren't exactly spring chickens (Leonard Davis and Okefor are both approching the dreaded double digit) depth at spots at the O or D line means future starters, provided you can get a player to stick around long enough for a team to reap the benefits of good depth.
 

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(Leonard Davis and Okefor are both approching the dreaded double digit)

They are about to Turn 10?

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QB in rd.2 horrible idea.... We need so much more than a back up

Take a free agent like Kerrry Collins if you dont use pick Young or Cutler
 

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Saints just traded Gandy, still think they'll take Leinart?
 

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it sounds like many of us...are coming around to a consensus...a few "i don't agrees" but that's great. OL takes time...DL really does not take that much time...RELATIVELY SPEAKING not to much to learn....let's not waste a top pick or so on 2007++...see the direction the dolphins are taking....find a backup a la martin/harrington...that what we need to do..albeit martin/collins/maddox/harrington...etc if davis is there...yes if huff is there...yes...these guys will make an impact now...we have to strike while the fire is hot...a team can turn it around very quickly with solid drafting which we do lately...smart FA signings and of course a coaching staff that is all on the same page and have their Phd's in pro-football....we are closer than some may believe
 
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kerouac9 said:
Rookie offensive and defensive linemen take the same 1-2 years to develop as quarterbacks and wide receivers. The positions that generally have the greatest impact as rookies are Tight Ends, Cornerbacks, running backs and linebackers.
???? I don't understand why you keep saying that!!!

Besides Shockey NO TE has made an impact in his rookie season.

And I disagree that offensive linemen take the longest to develop. They're are about on par when it comes to rookies.

If you look at some of the best prospects from last year:
Jamal Brown - Started and played very well
Barron - Started slow but played decent at the end of the season
Spencer - Did not start a single game
Mankins - Solid starter from day one.
Baas - Injuries at the beginning of the season, started slow but played decent at the end of the season
Roos - Decent starter
Barnes - started 12 games for the Jags and played well.
Elton Brown - Started, but started slow. Was injured and never really developed. Big ?.

Jamal Brown was awesome, and a lot of other played contributed to their team, so I do not understand why you're saying a rookie O-Lineman makes no impact. Some do, some don't
 

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Why? It's been made pretty clear that o-linemen don't contribute in their rookie seasons except in very rare cases. Why not get a player in the first two picks who can?

FYI

New England : Mankins, Kazur
 

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devilalum said:
Saints just traded Gandy, still think they'll take Leinart?

I was thinking the same thing. It's almost a guarantee that they will take Ferguson now...
 

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Well, they did say Jamaal would be moved to LT, but that's probably not important, that comment...could be a smokescreen.

Complete Smoke screen.

The did the same thing last year and went around and drafted Brown. The Saints scouts and front office are notorious smokescreeners.

And Brown did so well last year becuase he is a natural RT.
 

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Crazy Canuck said:
FYI

New England : Mankins, Kazur

And New England was 24th in the NFL in rushing and 30th in the NFL in rushing average. The problem isn't with pass protection, the problem is with the running game.

If you don't want to win this season, fine just say so and that's why you want to draft an OT with the #10 pick and let him develop into maybe a Pro Bowler in a few seasons. But I think that the Cards have the talent to compete with the starters they have and building on the continuity established at the end of last season. Depth is a concern at OT, but you don't draft a #2 swingman with the 10th overall pick in the NFL draft. That's what a 3-5th round pick is for, and that's where will draft an offensive lineman.

Jamal Brown - 13 starts, 3.5 sacks from the RT position, 8 penalties
Barron - Gave up 5.75 sacks and 115 yards in penalties in 11 starts
Spencer - I don't even know who this is.
Mankins - One of the worst rushing attacks in the NFL
Baas - Gave up 3 sacks in 5 starts and 3 penalties. From the OG position.
Roos - Didn't play--under development by one of the savviest personnel departments in the NFL.
Barnes - 12 starts on the right side, 3.5 sacks, 15th best defense in the NFL
Elton Brown - 4.25 sacks in 9 starts.

These are obviously finished products coming out of school who were ready to contribute at a veteran level, huh?
 

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BACH said:
???? I don't understand why you keep saying that!!!

Besides Shockey NO TE has made an impact in his rookie season.


heath miller did last year but I agree in general TE's don't come in and play great right away.
 

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And New England was 24th in the NFL in rushing and 30th in the NFL in rushing average. The problem isn't with pass protection, the problem is with the running game.

If you don't want to win this season, fine just say so and that's why you want to draft an OT with the #10 pick and let him develop into maybe a Pro Bowler in a few seasons. But I think that the Cards have the talent to compete with the starters they have and building on the continuity established at the end of last season. Depth is a concern at OT, but you don't draft a #2 swingman with the 10th overall pick in the NFL draft. That's what a 3-5th round pick is for, and that's where will draft an offensive lineman.

Jamal Brown - 13 starts, 3.5 sacks from the RT position, 8 penalties
Barron - Gave up 5.75 sacks and 115 yards in penalties in 11 starts
Spencer - I don't even know who this is.
Mankins - One of the worst rushing attacks in the NFL
Baas - Gave up 3 sacks in 5 starts and 3 penalties. From the OG position.
Roos - Didn't play--under development by one of the savviest personnel departments in the NFL.
Barnes - 12 starts on the right side, 3.5 sacks, 15th best defense in the NFL
Elton Brown - 4.25 sacks in 9 starts.

These are obviously finished products coming out of school who were ready to contribute at a veteran level, huh?

That you can conclude this from my simple reference to the fact that New England had two rookies playing on their left side is laughable quantum leap in logic, to say the least.

My preference at 10 is a player that can step in right now, or, if it's to be an investment in future returns... the QBOF.
 

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I like Croyle more than most, but taking him high in round 2 would be ********.
Maybe I missed something but it looks like they have Bama boy going ahead of Charlie Whitehurst and Omar Jacobs. Won't happen.
 
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