Cooper's Contract?

[Garthshort]

What's the holdup? Think I read somewhere that last year Az had signed all their draft picks by June 11th. It seems odd that we were able to get Tyrann's deal done, when contract language was so important. Money is supposed to be slotted, so what's the problem? Did he sign and I just missed it?

 

[BullheadCardFan]

I was wondering what the holdup was also. This FO really worked fast and decisive in the off season and Cooper is taking a long time.

 

[PDXChris]

Only 10 first round picks have signed and only three of them have made the numbers known. That could be the hold up.



http://www.nfl.com/draft/story/0ap1...013-nfl-draft-firstround-picks-signing-status

 

[Jim Otis]

Only 10 first round picks have signed and only three of them have made the numbers known. That could be the hold up.



http://www.nfl.com/draft/story/0ap1...013-nfl-draft-firstround-picks-signing-status

Thanks for the info bankybruce .

 

[devilalum]

He works out at my gym every day with a personal trainer so he's stayin in shape!

 

[Garthshort]

tick, tock

 

[HotSauce]

Wonder who will be the first to blink? The Cardinals or the player who really had no business being selected that high in the first place and should be thrilled at the extra money he's getting because of it.

 

[BullheadCardFan]

8 days to get it done. Why wait so long?

 

[PDXChris]

8 days to get it done. Why wait so long?

If you look at my link above, which they updated two days ago, there have been no movement on first round picks in the last 45 days. I am assuming most are waiting for the first couple to get signed to see if they go 4 or 5 years.

 

[BigRedRage]

I noticed a tweet the other day that cooper is looking at the fully guaranteed contract that a player selected in the same spot last year got. Should be a slam dunk and happen early next week IMO

I put my money on Monday the 22nd. Apparently rookies report the 23rd.

 

[Garthshort]

Wasn't Eifert (Bengals) a first round pick? I know he just signed a day or so ago, but maybe he was a second rounder.

 

[PDXChris]

Wasn't Eifert (Bengals) a first round pick? I know he just signed a day or so ago, but maybe he was a second rounder.

If only there was a link in this thread that could answer this question.

Only 10 first round picks have signed and only three of them have made the numbers known. That could be the hold up.



http://www.nfl.com/draft/story/0ap1...013-nfl-draft-firstround-picks-signing-status

 

[iRobot]

A lot of it has to do with offset language as the $ is generally slotted for your draft position.

 

[PDXChris]

As we previously reported, the Browns are trying to wait out the process to see what the Miami Dolphins and Philadelphia Eagles do with the contracts of Dion Jordan and Lane Johnson.

Offset language remains one of the few items that are negotiable for rookie contracts and they appear to still be a sticking point as many top picks remain unsigned.

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.co...kevious-mingo-amid-fight-for-offset-language/

The Browns pick was #6.

 

[Garthshort]

tick, tock, Tick, Tock

 

[Cbus cardsfan]

Wonder who will be the first to blink? The Cardinals or the player who really had no business being selected that high in the first place and should be thrilled at the extra money he's getting because of it.

In a normal talent year, I agree, Cooper was overdrafted. However, a year in which Eric Fisher and Lane Johnson go in the top 4, is not a normal year, talent-wise. Cooper was a good pick for the Cards this year.

 

[BullheadCardFan]

tick, tock, Tick, Tock

Exactly.

I thought that the slotted salaries would speed things up. Which it does on the 2nd round and down picks. Obviously there are loopholes still for the 1st rounders that allow more guaranteed money so the delay process goes on and on.

3 days left to get him signed and in camp on time. Not counting the weekend. Is this the way it was set to work? Just seems odd to me.

 

[Cbus cardsfan]

Exactly.

I thought that the slotted salaries would speed things up. Which it does on the 2nd round and down picks. Obviously there are loopholes still for the 1st rounders that allow more guaranteed money so the delay process goes on and on.

3 days left to get him signed and in camp on time. Not counting the weekend. Is this the way it was set to work? Just seems odd to me.

He's not going to be a hold out so I don't see how it matters when he is signed. If he's signed the morning of camp, it is the same as being signed a month ago. He's been participating in everything, which is all that is important.

 

[Garthshort]

Cbus, so we shouldn't worry until next Tuesday? Well what can I worry about this week?

 

[Cbus cardsfan]

Cbus, so we shouldn't worry until next Tuesday? Well what can I worry about this week?

What else, who will the Cards take in round 1 of the 2014 draft?

 

[BigRedRage]

Darren Urban @Cardschatter 46m No reason to be worried. Expect it before camp. RT @AzBirdgangMC: .@Cardschatter is Cooper signed yet? When should we start getting worried?

 

[BigRedRage]

today Adam Schefter @AdamSchefter 3h Ravens and first-round draft choice S Matt Elam have agreed in principle to a four-year deal, which includes a fifth-year option.

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[HotSauce]

In a normal talent year, I agree, Cooper was overdrafted. However, a year in which Eric Fisher and Lane Johnson go in the top 4, is not a normal year, talent-wise. Cooper was a good pick for the Cards this year.

Disagree. Not even in what one might consider to be an abnormal year should an offensive guard be selected with the #7 overall selection in the NFL Draft.

 

[Cbus cardsfan]

Disagree. Not even in what one might consider to be an abnormal year should an offensive guard be selected with the #7 overall selection in the NFL Draft.

It was a bit of a need pick but he was also a consensus top 8 player. Who else would you rather them take at that point? I don't want anything to do with Tavon Austin. Dee Milliner wasn't really an option as the Cards addressed CB in free agency.

I wanted Dion Jordan but he was gone. The only guys you could really make a case for the Cards taking would have been Star Lotulelei, Kenny Vaccaro, and Jarvis Jones, who all were drafted 14 or later. Star and Jarvis both had medical concerns. Jones also had athletic questions after he tested so poorly at his pro day.

 

[Southpaw]

A lot of it has to do with offset language as the $ is generally slotted for your draft position.

Seems to be the hangup. Dion Jordan has not signed with the Dolphins because of the "offset language". Another agent ploy has wormed its way into negotiations.

IF THERE'S nothing for agents and NFL general managers to fight about, they'll invent something.

That's all you really need to know about the issue of "offset language," which so far has kept seven of the top 10 first-round draft picks from signing, including the Eagles' Lane Johnson, selected fourth overall in April...

Three of the top 10 2013 draftees have signed so far - second overall pick Luke Joeckel, with the Jaguars, fifth overall pick Ziggy Ansah, with the Lions, and eighth overall pick Tavon Austin, with the Rams. There is no offset language in those contracts, reports indicate.

We're talking here about an issue that seems almost moot, as an NFL team official noted yesterday. Offset language only comes into play when a player is released with time remaining on his contract. The standard rookie contract is 4 years. The issue would be, if you release a draftee after, say, 3 years, and he signs elsewhere, does he get the money you agreed to pay him, plus the deal from his new team, or is the money from the new team deducted from the total you owe him? You can only subtract the new contract from your team's obligation if you included offset language when your deal with the player was signed.