CP3 Rumored Trade

[ASUCHRIS]

If this trade goes through, I will be shocked if CP3 remains healthy for 60% of his games.

Shocked if he remains healthy for 60% of his games? Honestly, where do you come up with this ridiculousness?

https://www.basketball-reference.com/players/p/paulch01.html

IN 15 SEASONS, HE HAS PLAYED IN OVER 60% OF GAMES EVERY YEAR EXCEPT FOR ONE!!! Honestly, you might not like the guy, but statements like yours are just incredible.

Even worse, you completely ignore that RR was a shell of himself for half the season, then injured, and finally picked it up in the end. To bag on CP for wear and tear/breaking down is incredibly rich when you have RR at PG.

 

[Mainstreet]

I'm actually thinking it was all a ruse. I just hope management has some plan to improve the team. James Jones has been notoriously passive and reactive, as opposed to proactive, as a GM.

My fear continues to be that he drafts Bane or Terry at 10, re-signs Saric, signs a couple of G League types, and calls it a day.

I wouldn't be upset if the trade for Chris Paul was a non-starter but I think there were talks. I'd prefer other options.

 

[JCSunsfan]

Shocked if he remains healthy for 60% of his games? Honestly, where do you come up with this ridiculousness?

https://www.basketball-reference.com/players/p/paulch01.html

IN 15 SEASONS, HE HAS PLAYED IN OVER 60% OF GAMES EVERY YEAR EXCEPT FOR ONE!!! Honestly, you might not like the guy, but statements like yours are just incredible.

Even worse, you completely ignore that RR was a shell of himself for half the season, then injured, and finally picked it up in the end. To bag on CP for wear and tear/breaking down is incredibly rich when you have RR at PG.

He is 35 years old.

I understand if you disagree, but it is far from ridiculous. At this moment CP3 is not only the oldest starting pg in the league, he is the oldest starting guard in the league period. He had a great year last year and he is not some sort of healthy exception to the rule. His health has been about average or a little worse. The odds are just not good.

Rubio has had health issues, true. But he is still in his physical prime.

 

[1Sun]

I wouldn't be upset if the trade for Chris Paul was a non-starter but I think there were talks. I'd prefer other options.

I think there were talks in the same sense there were talks with LeBron and then Aldridge.

I'm okay with this one not panning out, as long as Jones does SOMETHING to fill the holes on this roster, rather than just banking entirely on the bubble run and just adding a reach at pick #10.

 

[ASUCHRIS]

He is 35 years old.

I understand if you disagree, but it is far from ridiculous.

Ok, who cares if he's only played less than 60% of games in one season 10 years ago...he's 35, so science!

 

[Mainstreet]

I think there were talks in the same sense there were talks with LeBron and then Aldridge.

I'm okay with this one not panning out, as long as Jones does SOMETHING to fill the holes on this roster, rather than just banking entirely on the bubble run and just adding a reach at pick #10.

With the renovations on the area and training center opening I think Sarver will make at least one bold move but at what cost?

I'd rather add one key player like a power forward and then fill in the gaps. Oubre and Rubio were not the problem last season.

 

[1Sun]

With the renovations on the area and training center opening I think Sarver will make at least one bold move but at what cost?

I'd rather add one key player like a power forward and then fill in the gaps. Oubre and Rubio were not the problem last season.

I concur, though Rubio was still below average (though at least nowhere near as horrific as Canaan, Harrison and James were, and better than having to play Booker out of position at the point).

If we get a serviceable starting power forward and back-ups for Booker and Ayton, I will be thrilled. If we get Bane or Terry and a handful of G Leaguers, I will be livid.

 

[JCSunsfan]

With the renovations on the area and training center opening I think Sarver will make at least one bold move but at what cost?

I'd rather add one key player like a power forward and then fill in the gaps. Oubre and Rubio were not the problem last season.

I am fine with trading Oubre. I think he is an expendable asset and could bring back a pf maybe. But I am fine keeping him as well. Rubio is a nice fit here. If an improvement can be made fine, I am just not sure CP3 is it risk-wise. I would be fine spending next year's 1st rounder to move up and draft Haliburton or Toppin. This team needs a more subtle move, not a big bold one. Maybe if things go south in the season, then. Anyway. That's what I see from here. Jones is watching these guys every day.

 

[JCSunsfan]

Ok, who cares if he's only played less than 60% of games in one season 10 years ago...he's 35, so science!

Do you think that CP3 is some sort of special specimen that will defy the odds? Do you think he will be an exceptional PG playing a high percentage of his games at 36-37 years old? If no one else has done it, why would CP3? I am willing to be convinced.

 

[ASUCHRIS]

Do you think that CP3 is some sort of special specimen that will defy the odds?

Defy what odds? Do you think that there is something magical about the age of 35 which turns him into a pumpkin?

Do you think he will be an exceptional PG playing a high percentage of his games at 36-37 years old?

I have no idea - I do know he was exceptional last year, and doesn't rely on athleticism, so it seems more likely that he'll be able to play effectively, as he did last year. In any event, I can pretty much guarantee you he'll be better than RR, because he always has been.

At worst, he's around for 2 years, and we took a major step towards relevance and playoff contention. After 10 years of playoff drought, something major needs to be done, or Booker will get tired of waiting.

 

[Mainstreet]

I concur, though Rubio was still below average (though at least nowhere near as horrific as Canaan, Harrison and James were, and better than having to play Booker out of position at the point).

If we get a serviceable starting power forward and back-ups for Booker and Ayton, I will be thrilled. If we get Bane or Terry and a handful of G Leaguers, I will be livid.

Rubio's stats were not below average. I simply think the Suns could better improve elsewhere.

https://www.espn.com/nba/player/_/id/4011/ricky-rubio

 

[1Sun]

Rubio's stats were not below average. I simply think the Suns could better improve elsewhere.

https://www.espn.com/nba/player/_/id/4011/ricky-rubio

I forgot his PER picked up in the bubble. It was below 15 when the bubble started.

 

[Finito]

Rubio's stats were not below average. I simply think the Suns could better improve elsewhere.

https://www.espn.com/nba/player/_/id/4011/ricky-rubio

Rubio is far from some bum off the street. It bugs me when guys disrespect him. When we signed him you would of thought we signed some homeless guy for 15 million the way they talked about it on The Jump.

 

[Mainstreet]

I am fine with trading Oubre. I think he is an expendable asset and could bring back a pf maybe. But I am fine keeping him as well. Rubio is a nice fit here. If an improvement can be made fine, I am just not sure CP3 is it risk-wise. I would be fine spending next year's 1st rounder to move up and draft Haliburton or Toppin. This team needs a more subtle move, not a big bold one. Maybe if things go south in the season, then. Anyway. That's what I see from here. Jones is watching these guys every day.

Did you feel the same about Warren? I think Oubre is more than Warren.

I'd listen to what adding next year's draft pick would bring and not just in the draft.

 

[JCSunsfan]

Defy what odds? Do you think that there is something magical about the age of 35 which turns him into a pumpkin?



I have no idea - I do know he was exceptional last year, and doesn't rely on athleticism, so it seems more likely that he'll be able to play effectively, as he did last year. In any event, I can pretty much guarantee you he'll be better than RR, because he always has been.

At worst, he's around for 2 years, and we took a major step towards relevance and playoff contention. After 10 years of playoff drought, something major needs to be done, or Booker will get tired of waiting.

No one beats age. No one. Its not accident that there are no starting guards in the league older than CP3. There is no magic cut off, but there is a guaranteed downhill slide.

 

[Mainstreet]

Rubio is far from some bum off the street. It bugs me when guys disrespect him. When we signed him you would of thought we signed some homeless guy for 15 million the way they talked about it on The Jump.

We agree about Rubio although that's not to say drafting an understudy like Kira Lewis wouldn't be a good idea.

 

[Mainstreet]

It's happening. Now I guess we will find out the details.

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[Folster]

We need the deets! I feel a puke emoji coming.

 

[ASUCHRIS]

No one beats age. No one.

Tell Lebron. Players are training better/eating better and staying in better shape than ever before.

Again, your belief that there is something magical about the age of 35 is mystifying, and you've shown no actual argument about why CP will suddenly decline.

Its not accident that there are no starting guards in the league older than CP3.

WHO CARES?!? He was still good enough to make 2nd team ALL NBA, something even Booker didn't do.

There is no magic cut off, but there is a guaranteed downhill slide.

Ok, bc JC said so.

 

[Folster]

Rubio, Oubre, Ty Jerome, Lecque and draft compensation according to Shams.

 

[1Sun]

It's happening. Now I guess we will find out the details.

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Hmmm. I really, really thought it was just bluster from the Suns and/or posturing from the Thunder. We better not be giving up anything other than Rubio and Oubre, and we better have a plan in place to get a starting power forward.

 

[Mainstreet]

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[ASUCHRIS]

Hell yeah, go big or go home!

 

[Mainstreet]

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[Folster]

2022 first round pick. Double draft! ouch!