Culter - wow!

[82CardsGrad]

Man did he look GREAT tonight... What a cannon for an arm... Dude was in total control tonight. Looked eerily like old #7 out there...

 

[CardinalChris]

Yeah, I spent 10 minutes trying to explain how good Cutler was to a Broncos fan today. He, unlike the other 2 big names drafted early that year, has progressed nicely in the NFL.

 

[82CardsGrad]

Yeah, I spent 10 minutes trying to explain how good Cutler was to a Broncos fan today. He, unlike the other 2 big names drafted early that year, has progressed nicely in the NFL.

Didn't want to mention that, but....

 

[CardinalChris]

I am still telling myself it takes time, it takes time. There is still hope!! Even I could not list the names to try to hold out on hope!!

 

[Lorenzo]

cutler has pretty much been that sharp since training camp. and that tonight came without their most lethal offensive weapon. eddie royal has been highly touted by the broncos. they said from training camp that this guy was special and that he would be their starter all year long. if you haven't picked this guy in fantasy...do it now. he will be a solid #2...great #3.

 

[CardShark]

They looked great, but try to temper that by how absolutely pathetic the Raiders were. Al Davis needs that team to be taken away from him.

 

[Lorenzo]

They looked great, but try to temper that by how absolutely pathetic the Raiders were. Al Davis needs that team to be taken away from him.

I agree. a good team should beat a bad team like that 9 out of 10 times. I can't fault the broncos for doing what they should of done.....without marshall at that.

 

[Lorenzo]

cutler kind of looks like a young sean payton.....with a rocket for an arm.

 

[D-Dogg]

Cutler has a CANNON for an arm. He's just got so much power in that thing. It is scary. If he develops like he should, he'll be a probowler on the reg.

Disclaimer: I was high on Cutler from the start, but I didn't think he'd be this good this fast.

 

[moklerman]

I was very impressed with Cutler tonight as well. I wonder how much his undiagnosed diabetes was affecting his onfield performance the last two years? It may just be coincidence that he's looking like a stud but he just seems to be re-enforcing the "QB's get it in their 3rd year" idea. Denver's D will keep them from winning too much but the offense should be in pretty good shape.

 

[Lorenzo]

I was very impressed with Cutler tonight as well. I wonder how much his undiagnosed diabetes was affecting his onfield performance the last two years? It may just be coincidence that he's looking like a stud but he just seems to be re-enforcing the "QB's get it in their 3rd year" idea. Denver's D will keep them from winning too much but the offense should be in pretty good shape.

that's true about the D...they do have some questions there. the true test comes next week.

 

[Osbern61]

cutler kind of looks like a young sean payton.....with a rocket for an arm.

Never got a chance to see Sean Payton playing for the Chicago Bruisers of the Arena League. Was he that good?

 

[moklerman]

Out of the 12 QB's taken in the 2005 draft, Cutler is the only clear starter so far. Young, Leinart, Jackson, Croyle, Clemens and Gradkowski have all had playing time and none has really established themselves. I think Cutler will clearly be moving to the next level this year while I don't see much from the others any time soon. Clemens might get a shot at inheriting a good team once Favre is done but Young, Leinart and Croyle have to prove they can stay healthy. I don't see Jackson or Gradkowski ever really becoming viable starters.

 

[RugbyMuffin]

Didn't want to mention that, but....

What, that hell or high water they started Jay Cutler over the last three years, and now the Broncos patience is paying off for them ?

I love that we started Warner, but Cutler is a perfect example of the rewards a team recieves for having a little patience with the QB position. They dealt with this rookie days (which weren't that bad) for three years, and now they have a QB for the next 10+ years.

And yes, he has a lazer of an arm.

 

[clif]

I was clearly on the Jay Cutler bandwagon, but was very thrilled (and still am) to get Lienart. I still think we got a good one in the making. I just remember thinking man would Cutler be nice gunning it to Fitz and Q.

People don't give Mike Mayock (nfl network) enough credit. He said Cutler was good way before anyone else IMO.

 

[PACardsFan]

What, that hell or high water they started Jay Cutler over the last three years, and now the Broncos patience is paying off for them ?

I love that we started Warner, but Cutler is a perfect example of the rewards a team recieves for having a little patience with the QB position. They dealt with this rookie days (which weren't that bad) for three years, and now they have a QB for the next 10+ years.

And yes, he has a lazer of an arm.

I agree with the point you are making, but the Denver franchise was in an entirely different situation than the Cardinals. With the rich history of the Broncos, they could afford a few average seasons while a young QB matures. The AZ franchise needs to win NOW & nobody knows that better than Whisenhunt. Denver's growing pains meant the team was still pretty good, but the Cardinals growing pains would have meant 4-12 seasons, more fan discontent, & obviously another coaching change, which this franchise just can't afford anymore. The Broncos have so much stability with a HC thats been there 14 yrs. WOW, that is the key to success right there. Cutler is very good, but he is VERY, VERY fortunate that he was drafted by Denver. Leinart will be very good & we'll see that progress THIS year. Warner was the right choice coming out the gate, but Leinart will be our starter by years end.

 

[RonF]

Leinart has neither a lazer or cannon for an arm, he will have to make his mark by being able to read the various defenses and take what's open to him. And that takes a lot of confidence in one's ability. It will be interesting to see if he can overcome adversity and become the field general to lead his team down the field. He can learn a lot from watching Kurt from the sidelines.

 

[D-Dogg]

Leinart has neither a lazer or cannon for an arm, he will have to make his mark by being able to read the various defenses and take what's open to him. And that takes a lot of confidence in one's ability. It will be interesting to see if he can overcome adversity and become the field general to lead his team down the field. He can learn a lot from watching Kurt from the sidelines.

Yep, I think Matt can actually improve on the sidelines. Jay had to play to improve.

 

[Russ Smith]

Remember who Denver wanted on draft day, hint it wasn't Cutler it was Matt they couldn't trade ahead of us so they went for Cutler. Sometimes better to be lucky than good.

One more time if Shanahan would realize his calling is as a coach/play caller and give up the other responsibilities to a real GM Denver would be so much better off. That guy is the best play caller in the NFL IMHO. It's amazing how often they can run that bootleg look and get Wr's wide open, for years they did that with Jake and now they have a QB who can actually make the throws look out. Cutler was sensational but he's throwing to wide open WR's because the play is so well designed and executed, really a fun thing to watch as a football fan.

But I imagine in the end Shanahan's GM ability will prevent Denver from going all the way. Cutler sure does have a cannon though and you had to love that Royal kid he was just torching DeAngelo Hall.

Talk today in the bay area is at least the 49ers aren't the worst team in the Bay Area.

Remember not that long ago people here were saying the Raiders had the best secondary in football, didn't look like it last night.

 

[nashman]

The broncos have excellent play calling against maybe the worst team in the NFL of course Cutler is going to look good with WIDE OPEN receivers. Lets see how the year plays out but he definately has a nice arm.

 

[82CardsGrad]

Cutler has a CANNON for an arm. He's just got so much power in that thing. It is scary. If he develops like he should, he'll be a probowler on the reg.

Disclaimer: I was high on Cutler from the start, but I didn't think he'd be this good this fast.

I can go back and pull my post, but on draft day I posted a comment that Cutler would be the best QB out of that draft! The guy is so much like Elway it's scary...

 

[82CardsGrad]

What, that hell or high water they started Jay Cutler over the last three years, and now the Broncos patience is paying off for them ?

I love that we started Warner, but Cutler is a perfect example of the rewards a team recieves for having a little patience with the QB position. They dealt with this rookie days (which weren't that bad) for three years, and now they have a QB for the next 10+ years.

And yes, he has a lazer of an arm.

Leinart has had his chances... And as you say, Cutler's rookie days weren't all that bad...
The Broncos stuck with Cutler because, while he was learning on the job - he was indeed LEARNING! Getting better... Granted, Matt was hurt last season, but the bottom line is that he Whiz didn't see enough learning from Matt to justify starting him over Warner... Maybe Matt's a slow learner...I don't know...

 

[Russ Smith]

Leinart has had his chances... And as you say, Cutler's rookie days weren't all that bad...
The Broncos stuck with Cutler because, while he was learning on the job - he was indeed LEARNING! Getting better... Granted, Matt was hurt last season, but the bottom line is that he Whiz didn't see enough learning from Matt to justify starting him over Warner... Maybe Matt's a slow learner...I don't know...

I think Cutler is better but he's had some advantages, he's been in the same system for 3 years. Matt came into a lame duck coach situation that changed midseason when they fired the OC, then he had the new system with Whiz coming in.

And the system Cutler came into completely fit him, mobile QB in a system designed for a mobile QB(Denver had tweaked the offense to suit Jake who couldn't operate in the pocket). SHanahan has a genius for getting good QB play he's done it with Jake, Brister, Griese, even Elway was dramatically better under Shanahan.

Matt is way behind Jay right now but I think the gap would be quite a bit less if we'd picked Cutler and they'd got Matt.

That said I think Cutler clearly looks like he's going to be better, hell I think the game last night showcased the 2 strongest arms in the NFL. He's definitely fun to watch.

 

[ActingWild]

Leinart has had his chances... And as you say, Cutler's rookie days weren't all that bad...
The Broncos stuck with Cutler because, while he was learning on the job - he was indeed LEARNING! Getting better... Granted, Matt was hurt last season, but the bottom line is that he Whiz didn't see enough learning from Matt to justify starting him over Warner... Maybe Matt's a slow learner...I don't know...

Cutler is WAY ahead of Matt, but to be fair, it's not like Denver had a two time NFL MVP competing with him for snaps and playing time.

 

[82CardsGrad]

Cutler is WAY ahead of Matt, but to be fair, it's not like Denver had a two time NFL MVP competing with him for snaps and playing time.

Which means Matt had the advantage of learning from a two-time NFL MVP, versus Cutler learning from............. Oh yea - Jake...