D Wash in more trouble

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On Fox 10 news they did a piece that might offer some more insight to what the "altercation" possibly stemmed from. Unfortunately they do not have the video posted on their website:

Police got there and say the alleged victim had marks on her throat. She said told police she got into an argument with Washington and he choked her. The two have a 5-month-old baby girl together.


Thursday morning, she didn't want to talk to us, saying she'd been advised not to talk about what happened.


According to court records, she has not let Washington see his baby. In a motion filed by Washington he claims, she's "making demands for money in return for parenting time."


The following is text messages between Washington and the alleged victim.


Washington: "Looking forward to seeing my baby tomorrow."


Baby's mother: "Not at my house..."


Washington: "That's fine I will come pick her up. Cool with you? My mom wants to see her."


Baby's mother: "Nope sorry we're busy."


Washington has yet talked or released a statement about the alleged incident. Phoenix Police also waiting to question him.
http://www.myfoxphoenix.com/story/2...s-player-hasnt-yet-been-interviewed-by-police
 

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This is sad for Cardinal Nation. I'll stick by the female with obvious physical damage, thank you very much- Maybe PP can save Dwash? This continues the train wreck that ended last season with DD fines- Horton gone and Fitz's damage control-

I guess Keim has to learn somewhere- why seasoned GM's don't do what he has done. TM would have impressed me if he said his priority was recovery- but no- it is football.


For those of you who are busy writing out Daryl Washington's obituary, I want to give you all one name to remember while doing so:

Ben Roethlisberger.

Remember when Big Ben was going through his rape chargers? Who was his coordinator? Bruce Arians. Twice he was accused, and you can argue he got off on the second one due to a technicality. But each time, Bruce had his back. So much so that when Bruce was purged from the Steeler's coaching staff, Big Ben lobbied to the front office to get him back.

During these events, Big Ben was labeled a "screw up" and there were reports of him being traded or released. But since his suspension, Roethlisberger has not found himself in anytrouble since, is still the captain of the offense, and is still a productive QB. Today, Steeler fans have largely forgiven and forgotten about the events, and the front office and coaching staff (Bruce included) look smart for giving him that support.

What does this have to do with the price of tea in Arizona? Daryl Washington is drawing the ire of many fans. He just got busted for drugs and will have to serve a four-game suspension. He is wanted for questioning in a domestic violence case. His stock is pretty low at the moment. But much like Big Ben, I expect Bruce to support Washington through this matter with hopes that he matures and becomes the unquestioned leader of this defense. People make mistakes, sometimes numerous ones; especially those at Washington's age.

With that said, before we start jumping to conclusions about Washington being jettisoned from the team, or even being found guilty in this DV case, remember how our coach was one of the few who stood by the side of one of the league's most loathed individuals. By comparison, Washington's situation is rather benign. Let this thing pass, hope that he matures from this, and continue to marvel at his playmaking ability.
 

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According to Judge Judy, if a parent is not allowing the other parent to see their child as ordered by a court, that parent can lose custody of the child. If I was DWash, and she was not allowing me to see my child, I would take her to court.
 

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This is sad for Cardinal Nation. I'll stick by the female with obvious physical damage, thank you very much- Maybe PP can save Dwash? This continues the train wreck that ended last season with DD fines- Horton gone and Fitz's damage control-

I guess Keim has to learn somewhere- why seasoned GM's don't do what he has done. TM would have impressed me if he said his priority was recovery- but no- it is football.

I don't agree about Washington necessarily (not yet anyway), but the part I bolded is a very interesting point.
 

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I wouldn't take sides yet.

The texts are telling. I am amazed at how mean people can be to each other in custody issues, and how much they are willing to use a child as a weapon against another person.
 

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This is sad for Cardinal Nation. I'll stick by the female with obvious physical damage, thank you very much- Maybe PP can save Dwash? This continues the train wreck that ended last season with DD fines- Horton gone and Fitz's damage control-

I guess Keim has to learn somewhere- why seasoned GM's don't do what he has done. TM would have impressed me if he said his priority was recovery- but no- it is football.[/QUOTE]

I'd be impressed with a coherent post occasionally.
 

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This is sad for Cardinal Nation. I'll stick by the female with obvious physical damage, thank you very much- Maybe PP can save Dwash? This continues the train wreck that ended last season with DD fines- Horton gone and Fitz's damage control-

I guess Keim has to learn somewhere- why seasoned GM's don't do what he has done. TM would have impressed me if he said his priority was recovery- but no- it is football.


Have you ever been through a DV or custody battle before? Or do you still sit when you pee?

I'm happy to see this board, for the majority, is taking a wait and see approach. Let both sides of this story come out. From various reports I have read, she is hardly an angel. Chics hold kids for hostage for $$ more often than will be reported in the media. I spend a lot of time with guys going through these situations; it's a template which is used ad nauseam. "Give me what I want! Oh you won't? Oh no you didn't!" and then all the crap starts.... Child support is based off of income. If a chic making nothing on paper can get knocked up by a marquee NFL linebacker on his 2nd contract, she is sitting on a gold mine...

Your Hero Leinart pays out over 10k a month with a child he shares. Not saying DV didnt occur, but people need to stop being so quick to jump to the conclusion that the female is helpless and the dude needs to take the highest road always...
 

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I wouldn't take sides yet.

The texts are telling. I am amazed at how mean people can be to each other in custody issues, and how much they are willing to use a child as a weapon against another person.

Oh yea I forgot that part about the law, when your chick is not letting you see your kid you choke her...yup the texts are telling. He got pissed and choked her. And then ran straight to his lawyer.
 

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Have you ever been through a DV or custody battle before? Or do you still sit when you pee?

I'm happy to see this board, for the majority, is taking a wait and see approach. Let both sides of this story come out. From various reports I have read, she is hardly an angel. Chics hold kids for hostage for $$ more often than will be reported in the media. I spend a lot of time with guys going through these situations; it's a template which is used ad nauseam. "Give me what I want! Oh you won't? Oh no you didn't!" and then all the crap starts.... Child support is based off of income. If a chic making nothing on paper can get knocked up by a marquee NFL linebacker on his 2nd contract, she is sitting on a gold mine...

Your Hero Leinart pays out over 10k a month with a child he shares. Not saying DV didnt occur, but people need to stop being so quick to jump to the conclusion that the female is helpless and the dude needs to take the highest road always...

Oh thats a great comeback, your only a man if you go through a DV or custody battle...Your so tough!
 

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Oh thats a great comeback, your only a man if you go through a DV or custody battle...Your so tough!



That makes me tough as nails then because I've been through 3 of them.....oh wait...that makes me an idiot.....:)
 

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Oh thats a great comeback, your only a man if you go through a DV or custody battle...Your so tough!


Thats not my point bud (or hun, whichever you are). I hardly think assaulting anyone is ok. My point is, she has "marks" on her neck, and many are assuming her story about being "choked" is verified by these marks in absence of any other proof, evidence, or statement. I had a 4x4 slip off a hanger on my kids play set today during construction and it caused some noticeable damage to my neck and shoulder. I could run to the cops right now and file a report alleging my wife struck me with a 2x4 because she is upset I spent a significant amount of money buying it, we are poor, and I haven't paid enough attention to her, because all I can think about is building it after I was laid off of a good career which enabled her to be a stay at home mom, causing her to have to find employment. If this is all which was broadcast to my family and neighbors, it may seem plausible. But maybe she got upset at me for being irresponsible with our money, alcohol is ruining my life and our marriage, and me getting drunk/my binge drinking is the main factor in me dropping a 10' 4x4 on my shoulder (and why I was fired from my job). Maybe she saw this and decided to leave for the night because she is tired of living like this. Maybe she didn't tell me where she was going and shut her phone off, because all she can do is cry about how I am destroying myself/our life. This could be a good reason why the cops cant find her either... I hope you get my point.

Nobody knows jack **** yet, and to automatically pile on the guy because he is under the leagues substance abuse microscope is crap. They may not even be related at all. My point was, dont be all high and mighty about yourself. YES, women lie, manipulate, and use the DV thing as a tactic to get more money; and they are allowed too because people such as yourself bite on the first thing to come across your face. Truth.
 
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Oh yea I forgot that part about the law, when your chick is not letting you see your kid you choke her...yup the texts are telling. He got pissed and choked her.

You are making an assumption. Let the police and court system handle the situation if merited.

And then ran straight to his lawyer.

If you are ever charged with a crime, even if it is false, you would be wise to consult a lawyer before you talk to police. When they say, anything you say can be used against you, they mean it.
 

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Oh yea I forgot that part about the law, when your chick is not letting you see your kid you choke her...yup the texts are telling. He got pissed and choked her. And then ran straight to his lawyer.
according to her at least... Maybe she was bitter and bruised herself. People can be entirely irrational when it comes to emotions... which is the case here, regardless of who's at fault. Somebody, probably both of them, grossly overreacted
Oh thats a great comeback, your only a man if you go through a DV or custody battle...Your so tough!

where does "tough" come into this equation? Legal problems NEVER make a person tough. But it does give him a little more insight into the situation than a person that hasn't been there


you seem like you not only have branded him guilty prematurely, but you also seem to be taking it personally by how mad you appear. I'm curious, why?


also, I wasn't aware there is a child involved. That's a shame. Poor kid doesn't deserve to be put in the middle of this. I hope that regardless of what has already happened (it's over and done. Can't undo it), they can be ciliv with one another for the kid's sake. He/she deserves to be happy, and it's BOTH parents' responsibility to make sure that he/she is
 
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you seem like you not only have branded him guilty prematurely, but you also seem to be taking it personally by how mad you appear. I'm curious, why?

Because (s)he sits when urinating.... Ok, I dont want to taunt; Yes, let this play out. There is a good chance this is complete BS. Mainstreet speaks the truth; if you are EVER in ANY legal action, consult a lawyer. Lawyers are your liaison. I see a lot of people found "wrong" or are judged "against" merely because of their ignorance of the LAW, not because they would be seen as "wrong" in many peoples eyes.

Brandon, thank you for putting this in a diplomatic way. People can easily mark themselves. For the more calculated, it's not hard to build stories around evidence or in this case signs of physical injury.
 
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Domestic violence is one of those "guilty until proven innocent" crimes, especially if it's a male perpetrator and a female victim. Guilty or not, I'm sure the police and the court will railroad him into some sort of "confession" or plea bargain.

Are you kidding me? Serious question. I know more than one woman who has literally sought protection from an abusive male partner only to be told that there is no real proof. It's the we-can't-do-anything-until-he-does-something deal and, even when he DOES do something, it often isn't quite enough.

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I would expect more of a response from the guy who hates all those accused of drinking and driving. Is one crime worse than the other?

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some of you are koolaid drinkers; way, way, way to quick to buy into the helpless female crap.

Over 50% of all orders of protection filed in 2011 were done so at the same time DV papers were filed. Coincidence? My ex-wife filed an order of protection on me at the same time she filed for DV; nothing occurred, she just used this as a tool to have power over me. Well, for 9 days before I stood before the judge with her on the other side of the aisle and had it quashed.

Domestic violence groups are the most prominent voices in child support committee meetings at the state level; if you take their word, every male is a bad guy, beats everyone up, and therefore needs to pay more in child support because of it. Anyone watching the Jodi Arias debacle? This Alyce Laviolette lady is a prime example of the type of "expert" running the table at committees; biased, subjective, and on a mission.

Those of you who have been through any family court/domestic relations situation know what I am talking about. Those of you who have not (yet at least) havent a clue, and it would be great if you sat in the corner of the room with your trap closed until you do have to experience the circus which is.

Chic probably knows his back is to the wall (we all know this from coming to this message board right?). Women will want to make you hurt IN EVERYWAY THEY CAN when you break their hearts (or piss them off, not give into their wants and desires, or move on to another). Support the guys due process! jeez guys...

Sorry you had a bad experience, but you can't assume all relationships are like yours. And, for the women I know who have gone through this, it isn't "helpless female crap." Yes, I know females (not women and not friends of mine) who have cried rape. I get that SOME men get a raw deal. But to dismiss someone who you do not know on the basis of your own past experience is, well, kinda ignorant.

Personally, I already stated that I hope these allegations are untrue for multiple reasons. Domestic violence is wrong. Lying about it is wrong. Sucks.

Have you ever been through a DV or custody battle before? Or do you still sit when you pee?

I sit to pee, and so do other moderators on this board, so I STRONGLY suggest you tread lightly.
 

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Glad everyone could get out their personal preconceptions out in this thread.

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Are you kidding me? Serious question. I know more than one woman who has literally sought protection from an abusive male partner only to be told that there is no real proof. It's the we-can't-do-anything-until-he-does-something deal and, even when he DOES do something, it often isn't quite enough.

Oh B.S. If I knew your name, I could have you served tomorrow with an order of protection. I dont even know who you are, and I could go in to any municipal court 8 hours from this moment and have an OOP issued and served on you that day free of charge. It would be up to you to fight it. Once in the court room, the burden of proof would be on me. If I could show the slightest signs of violence or even threats, the OOP will stand. It could possibly be amended if we had a reason to see each other (i.e., if we had a common child we would either exchange via willing 3rd party or meet in a conspicuous/public place), but if there were any merit to my claims (of violence and/or threats) whatsoever, the OOP would stand. I highly doubt your claims of having more than one woman you know unable to find protection from abusive males; either you are flat out making stuff up or you were buying the stuff they made up. There is plenty, PLENTY of notorious and conspicuous recourse to take on ANYONE for essentially NOTHING. Seriously, any cop will tell you this is an option for nearly any reason you call them out, it is that accessible.



Sorry you had a bad experience, but you can't assume all relationships are like yours. And, for the women I know who have gone through this, it isn't "helpless female crap." Yes, I know females (not women and not friends of mine) who have cried rape. I get that SOME men get a raw deal. But to dismiss someone who you do not know on the basis of your own past experience is, well, kinda ignorant.

I am actually a firefighter. One element to my job is having an intimate atmosphere with many of my colleagues since we eat together, live together, share hard times with one another, and spend 1/3 of our lives together (I actually spend more with the people I work with, since I dont ever get up 4 times after midnight to drive down the road for a call with my own family). Along with my job, I meet thousands of random people a year; many of these folks I meet at some of their worst moments. I hear their stories, see their homes, deal with their loose ends; between my co-workers, the people I serve, and my personal experiences, I see a lot of common denominators with the circus that is domestic relations.

I got to tell you; I have met a lot more women attempting to point out trauma on their bodies where I cant see any than I have met men attempting to show me the same injuries; most men dont report DV, and when they do, generally I see obvious injuries which fit their story (and it is usually a female who summonsed the 9-11 in the first place). I have had a few female patients who have had the holy **** kicked out of them by men too; I am hardly trying to say DV doesnt exist or say it is in any way justified. I'm just trying to give a "social workers" perspective of what I see, the frequency, and the no BS assessment. It's a hard fact that OVER 50% of the OOP's issued in 2011 were in concert with DV paperwork. DV is easily claimed by females and is a great tool to use during family court; If you raise the slightest flags with accusations of abuse, you now hold the upper hand. Rarely are accusers held accountable for fraudulent claims; its a matter of perception, and if it is unfounded its just that; unfounded, and everyone moves along (after what can be months and thousands of dollars to defend yourself/retain rights to your kids for frivolous accusations/claims). If you are a girl, you pretty much have nothing to loose and a lot to gain by starting such problems.

Personally, I already stated that I hope these allegations are untrue for multiple reasons. Domestic violence is wrong. Lying about it is wrong. Sucks.



I sit to pee, and so do other moderators on this board, so I STRONGLY suggest you tread lightly.

You really arent doing much to dispel my belief that there are females out there who will exert power over men over something they dont like, something they cant agree with, or as a way to make them/their point win/prevail. "STRONGLY" suggesting I tread lightly (for what I assume results in some sort of ban from the board by the "female" moderators) pretty much proves my point. Ban me; I dont care. I have been a member since 2004 and post less than twice a month on avg. Having a week, 2, or 56 off, or being permanently banned, doesnt scare me. I am here EVERYDAY reading peoples opinions and taking it in, and I can do that from ASFN detention........:p
 
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"If you raise the slightest flags with accusations of abuse, you now hold the upper hand. Rarely are accusers held accountable for fraudulent claims; its a matter of perception, and if it is unfounded its just that; unfounded, and everyone moves along (after what can be months and thousands of dollars to defend yourself/retain rights to your kids for frivolous accusations/claims). If you are a girl, you pretty much have nothing to loose and a lot to gain by starting such problems."


They are NEVER held accountable for false claims. My co-worker just went thru this exact scenario. The police tape recorded her calling him accusing him of abuse. He thought she was crazy and was confused as to why she was saying those things. He ended up taking a lie detector test which he passed, she refused but there were no consequences for her. He also spent thousands
 

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Wow there sure are a lot of people on their high horse around here. I hope the allegations are false and with my extensive experience in regards to these matters all I will say is I surely dont consider Dwash to be guilty in anyway shape or form. Women can be scandalous! On that same token I don't in anyway shape or form consider him innocent either. IE none of us know and shouldn't throw stones. Unless there are any key reliable witnesses we are likely to NEVER find out what really happened.
 

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Wow there sure are a lot of people on their high horse around here. I hope the allegations are false and with my extensive experience in regards to these matters all I will say is I surely dont consider Dwash to be guilty in anyway shape or form. Women can be scandalous! On that same token I don't in anyway shape or form consider him innocent either. IE none of us know and shouldn't throw stones. Unless there are any key reliable witnesses we are likely to NEVER find out what really happened.

Listen to the Bobbie, people.
 

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I would expect more of a response from the guy who hates all those accused of drinking and driving. Is one crime worse than the other?

If someone is accused of drinking and driving they are usually guilty of drinking and driving to some extent. They drank and then drove. If they have a lawyer that can get it tossed or reduced it does not void the fact that they drove impaired in my opinion. They were pulled over, tested, and arrested. They were stupid and it could have killed people.

Quite different than the he said she said allegations of domestic violence.

Personally, I hope D Wash did not put his hands on a woman because I detest any man that would do that.
I do not want to dislike him ala Michael Pittman who beat on a woman as a member of the Cards.

I still consider Warren Moon a wifebeater too.

I do not take situations like this lightly.
 

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