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DA!!!!! Woooo Hoooo
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Thanks Duckjake, I needed that.
TJ
Frank Kaminsky is my Hero.
He lost one fumble
He stunk up the place,
but he didn't throw a pick. He missed easy passes, and he never gave up. He could've costed us the game, he didn't.
So to me its to be continued, I can honestly say I have no idea how the offense will roll next week. I'm sure it will not be dull.
but he didn't throw a pick. He missed easy passes, and he never gave up. He could've costed us the game, he didn't.So to me its to be continued, I can honestly say I have no idea how the offense will roll next week. I'm sure it will not be dull.
LarryStalling
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Don't you think Whis was responsible for DA throwing to Fitz so many times? He calls the plays. You need to keep with what is working. Why did we keep trying to run up the middle when our end sweeps were working so well?
We recovered the ball so it wasn't a turnover.
No. All pass plays include several options. If a QB appears to be forcing the ball to one receiver, open or not, it is almost always on him.
I just don't agree. DA didn't look comfortable when he was trying to throw to Fitz and on a lot of those plays, he didn't look anywhere else. That says to me that is was a called play.
Chopper0080
2021 - Prove It
No, Whis calls the plays, but he doesn't tell DA where to go. What was difficult was that the Rams went man on Fitz and so it was hard for DA to look away. Anytime you get man coverage on your best playmaker, you want to attack it, but DA and Fitz could not get on the same page.
Chopper, this don't make a whole lot of sense. When a pass play is called, there is always a primary receiver you are supposed to throw to. If he is covered, then you look for someone else. I believe Whis keep calling Fitz's number and DA keep trying to force the ball into him.
DeAnna
Just A Face in The Crowd
That just says to me he didn't look at the other options - when he should have. Seemed like he was trying to force the ball to Fitz too often.
40 you are contradicting yourself. Go to bed.
Nu uh. On those plays, DA didn't look anywhere else. It's obvious the play was supposed to go to Fitz. Why did Whis insist on calling all those plays to Fitz even when it was apparent they weren't working? Because that is his modus operandi. Just like all those run plays up the middle when just about every sweep play we tried worked. He gets a little hard headed at times and I'll guarantee you DA isn't going to make wholesale changes like KW did.
You are still contradicting yourself. There are NO pass plays called with only one receiver. If the play is called with Fitz as a primary reciever and he is covered it is DA's responsibility to look elsewhere. If he forces it in to the primary receiver regardless of coverage it is on him, the QB, not on the coach.
kerouac9
Klowned by Keim
You obviously haven't seen Derek Anderson play before. This is how he do.
I'm not sure what your claim is. It sounds like you're saying that the Cards have plays in their playbook that only have Fitz as the passing option. Is that what you're saying? Does that even make sense in your own mind? What do you think Steve Breaston, Ben Patrick, Tim Hightower, and the other eligible receivers are doing on these plays?
Cards_Campos
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Well a couple of positives even though I do agree some of his throws were atrocious. 1)He did try to get the ball to Larry alot. 15 passes his way...I mean when they get on the same page Fitz will have some stats. The last TD throw was a very nice throw. 2)He didn't turn the ball over. I know he could have had a few...and 1 one was just plain dropped....but he didn't have an INT. He was also getting blasted and still he hung in there.
His stat line isn't that bad I mean 297 yards 1 TD and 0 Int's is decent. If he completes 3 more passes he would have had 60% completion rate(or real close) and he would have had say 320 yards too. So in all reality 3 more passes and his stats would be very nice. Just saying.
Plus TH and Komar lose fumbles in scoring range. We could have had atleast 10 more points or so.
His stat line isn't that bad I mean 297 yards 1 TD and 0 Int's is decent. If he completes 3 more passes he would have had 60% completion rate(or real close) and he would have had say 320 yards too. So in all reality 3 more passes and his stats would be very nice. Just saying.
Plus TH and Komar lose fumbles in scoring range. We could have had atleast 10 more points or so.
SeattleCard
Back in Arizona!!!
I hope that DA progresses as the season rolls on. I saw things I liked and disliked.
Dayman
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For those who hoped DA would return to Pro Bowl form.
2007-82.5 rating
Today-85.1 rating
2007-56.5 comp %
Today-53.7 comp %
2007-7.2 ypa
Today-7.2 ypa
2007-236.7 ypg
Today-297 ypg
2007-1.4/1 TD/TO
Today-1/1 TD/TO
Statistically, today was pretty similar to how DA played during his best year. Frightening, but true.
2007-82.5 rating
Today-85.1 rating
2007-56.5 comp %
Today-53.7 comp %
2007-7.2 ypa
Today-7.2 ypa
2007-236.7 ypg
Today-297 ypg
2007-1.4/1 TD/TO
Today-1/1 TD/TO
Statistically, today was pretty similar to how DA played during his best year. Frightening, but true.
OP
OP
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I stick to my opinion, he sucks!!! I watched the whole game feeling like he was lost. The one TD drive where we ran the ball for 75+ yards without a pass play was the best drive of the game. DA will make some plays no doubt, but he made Fitz look horrible, and that is hard to do. I dont buy the timing issue, he held the ball way to long on most plays and was trying to throw to a open reciever and missed his mark. DA is exactly what he was in Clevland , the guy who could not win the job over Brady Quinn. He had a good year in 2007 and has some talent, but he will be up and down to much for the Cards to win this division. And to say he was forcing it to Fitz, really??? Every QB in the league would love the chance to throw to Fitz, there is no forcing it. Get the ball to his area and he does the rest. Not behind him where he has to lay out and still cant get it, not so far ahead of him that he cant even get to it. Just out it on him and 9 out of ten times he will make it happen.
LoyaltyisaCurse
IF AND WHEN HEALTHY...
D. Cavaricci is garbage.
Brian
PANEM ET CIRCENSES
Because Lyle snapped the ball when DA didn't expect it. Who knows if it was a silent count, but DA didn't utter a sound before that ball was snapped.
See my above post. Of course he is supposed to look for other receivers, but DA locked on Fitz and tried to force it in there. I believe Whis was pushing him to keep going to Fitz until they connected. I blame it on Whis as much as I do DA.
I never said that. See my above post. I think DA was trying to please Whis which caused him to try and force the ball to Fitz. It's obvious Whis keep calling Fitz's number.
When he had time DA looked around, then he hit the check down mostly, or Breaston a couple times. Aside from the TD, the only throws to Fitz appeared to be when he needed to toss the rock quickly, to save his skin. I don't blame him, if you gotta toss it, put it in Fitz direction. I don't see any coach insisting on a certain receiver, most would want the ball thrown to who ever is open right? Larry might be the first look for a play, but I would imagine thats as far as that goes.
The coach calls the plays. Pass plays are designed for a primary receiver. It's obvious Whis called Fitz's number numerous times as Fitz threw at him on a regular basis on the one drive. DA is playing his first game as a Cardinal and wouldn't feel comfortable changing plays like KW did, so he tried forcing the ball into Fitz.
I don't believe Fitz was ever covered to the point of where DA would have to check down, but it's obvious that Fitz and DA were on separate pages. That's why the passes looked so bad at times.
As I said, I believe Whis was as responsible for all those attempted throws to Fitz as DA was because he keep calling the plays to go to Fitz.
