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I'm in favor of Samson changing positions, maybe play the slot. He's a good athlete at 6-4/215.

Yah thats probably a good idea if his elbow is going to eternally be a problem.

Part of me kinda hopes Threet and Thomas work out really well and maybe Osweiller can play some basketball for ASU. I think he'd perhaps be more valuable to the athletic dept. in that regard.
 

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I would say that's a misread. They don't trust Oz to stick to the game plan. He likes to take risks. I think works real hard in practice but Sullivan is the one that continues to maintain the trust of the players and the coaches (for a reason). But the coaches love his upside and his mobility. If that offensive line wasn't a rickety fence, I think Oz would've been receiving ample playing time by now -- if not starting.
Just what I was told. The guy is pretty close to the program.

It does makes Oz's future a bit unclear though if Threet is the guy.
 

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It does makes Oz's future a bit unclear though if Threet is the guy.

But Threet's not the guy. No one is. I never know how much to reveal here without burning someone's trust, but I'll lay it out in general: The coach's were stunned at the lack of competitive fire among the QBs when they got here -- other than Sullivan -- and believe young QBs don't develop well without it. The competition starts in the film room and carries out onto the field.

The competition is wide open next spring. No one's been earmarked. One of the reasons Sampson's being coddled a bit is because they want numbers on the depth chart to keep the challenge on Oz. The constant competition is why Jack Elway quit. He couldn't take the film room sessions with Olson, among other things.

And in case you're still in doubt, look at how many true freshmen have made the field the past three years. He's played 18 in the past two. Erickson will push everyone on the chart up and down until the team raises its level of play. In reverse of that, right now Ryan Bass is being put to the test and he's not fairing well because he doesn't understand it's his attitude that's being tested, not his physical skills. I suspect Bass will be a transfer because of it.
 
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But Threet's not the guy. No one is. I never know how much to reveal here without burning someone's trust, but I'll lay it out in general: The coach's were stunned at the lack of competitive fire among the QBs when they got here -- other than Sullivan -- and believe young QBs don't develop well without it. The competition starts in the film room and carries out onto the field.

The competition is wide open next spring. No one's been earmarked. One of the reasons Sampson's being coddled a bit is because they want numbers on the depth chart to keep the challenge on Oz. The constant competition is why Jack Elway quit. He couldn't take the film room sessions with Olson, among other things.

And in case you're still in doubt, look at how many true freshmen have made the field the past three years. He's played 18 in the past two. Erickson will push everyone on the chart up and down until the team raises its level of play. In reverse of that, right now Ryan Bass is being put to the test and he's not fairing well because he doesn't understand it's his attitude that's being tested, not his physical skills. I suspect Bass will be a transfer because of it.

I'll never understand how these kids can't see the chance to earn a starting QB role at a Pac 10 school as enough reason to get off their lazy asses and compete! Amazing...
 

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I'll never understand how these kids can't see the chance to earn a starting QB role at a Pac 10 school as enough reason to get off their lazy asses and compete! Amazing...

In Elway's case, it was obvious he was not a Pac-10 QB. He didn't have the arm strength and, counter to what people believed, he did not have the coaching. He was way behind the other guys.
 

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In Elway's case, it was obvious he was not a Pac-10 QB. He didn't have the arm strength and, counter to what people believed, he did not have the coaching. He was way behind the other guys.


I wasn't really referring to Elway... but thanks for clarifying his situation...
 

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I wasn't really referring to Elway... but thanks for clarifying his situation...

I think the biggest issue was Carpenter, who felt he had already earned his wings. His saving grace was his work in the film room, where he was always stellar. Erickson probably catered to him a little too much and it's always been unclear whether Carpenter really had the support of his teammates. Compare him to Sullivan, who is a team darling. It's interesting.
 

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I think the biggest issue was Carpenter, who felt he had already earned his wings. His saving grace was his work in the film room, where he was always stellar. Erickson probably catered to him a little too much and it's always been unclear whether Carpenter really had the support of his teammates. Compare him to Sullivan, who is a team darling. It's interesting.

Did Carpenter suffer from the debacle Koetter created with Keller back in '06?
 

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Did Carpenter suffer from the debacle Koetter created with Keller back in '06?

Nah. More than anything I think Carpenter suffered from a mediocre supporting cast ... and he tended to let that be known.
 

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Nah. More than anything I think Carpenter suffered from a mediocre supporting cast ... and he tended to let that be known.

Was his cast any worse than what Sullivan is currently dealing with? FWIW, I think Sullivan is just plain bad, with our without a crappy supporting cast... but you knew that already. ;)
 

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Was his cast any worse than what Sullivan is currently dealing with? FWIW, I think Sullivan is just plain bad, with our without a crappy supporting cast... but you knew that already. ;)

Along the offensive line, yes, but his receivers made huge catches that I think a lot of ASU fans took for granted. He also had reasonably decent tight ends his entire four years. Sullivan has nary a tight end to work with, which is one of the reasons why ASU can't go vertical ... it's hard to bust a Cover 2 without a tight end to split the middle of the field or a running game that forces those safeties to come up.
 

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I suspect Bass will be a transfer because of it.
Maybe he can join his friend and former co-SoCal Offensive POY Matt Scott somewhere in the WAC. Somewhere like Fresno State fits those guys academic and attitude profile.

And Elway couldn't play in high school let alone in the Pac-10, he got that scholarship because of his family. The guy was never Pac-10 caliber maybe not even Big Sky worthy even if he was hitting the film room so he's a poor example. The true frosh point is noted, but a lot of Pac-10 teams have played a similar amount of true freshmen the last couple years. Every coach in the country is going to play the best player and create competition these days as much as they can, that's not some Dennis Erickson specialty.
 
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Along the offensive line, yes, but his receivers made huge catches that I think a lot of ASU fans took for granted. He also had reasonably decent tight ends his entire four years.

Question, was it me or did Rudy completely loose the team last year? It felt like that was the case. It was hard to tell whether it was Rudy, or just the lack of team production.

Also, Rudy seemed to have put on some weight (not the good, muscle kind) in the off-season prior to the start of his Senior year. That shocked me! On the TV, you could clearly see a gut above his belt line. You would think that a guy hoping to go on the first day of the draft would have busted his butt over the summer.

In the end, I was a Rudy fan early on, but he seemed to wear thin on me last year. However, I always felt he had enough talent to lead a good team to wins.
 

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KTAR: Osweiler to start this weekend.

Spin is that Sullivan is too hurt to throw, but grain of salt and all that.
 

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