Dare I say the "T" word . . . ?

[Ouchie-Z-Clown]

granted we haven't seen the young collegians play a lick of hoops yet, but this seems to be a potentially transcendent class of bigs. And while we have chriss bender big sauce I don't think any of them compare to the potential of porter, Ayton, bagley, and potentially a couple others like bomba.

We are still not a good team. If a quarter of the way through the season we are not much improved (in 8th slot or better) and this college class looks like the real deal I'm all in for one last tank.

 

[Chaplin]

As you say, we are not a good team. Even if real tanking was a possibility (which it isn't), we probably don't need to do it.

 

[Ronin]

if we tank, gotta wonder how much doing so weighs on the mind of our budding star (Booker)

 

[pokerface]

Last year I wanted a tank right out of the gate but now I don't know. It's f'n gruelling man...Yeah the smart move would be wanting another high pick but I also want to see some potential realized. I want our young guys to impress me.


I just don't know...

 

[pokerface]

if we tank, gotta wonder how much doing so weighs on the mind of our budding star (Booker)

Not a concern with Booker because he's under contract for a very long time. My concern is more with Bledsoe because he has just two seasons left.

 

[JCSunsfan]

No tanking!

We have young players. We are going to lose a lot of games this year. But there is no reason to sit players any more. Besides, the only vet that could possibly deserve to be in the starting line up right now is Chandler--and that is not certain. He is declining. Tanking right now would demand playing the vets more, not less.

Try to win every game.

 

[Phrazbit]

Yeah... I feel like every year right now there are 3 guys supposedly worth throwing your season away for. We've got a lot of young talent, let them play and try to put them in a position to play as well as possible.

For every Anthony Davis and Karl-Anthony Towns there is a pile of Greg Oden, OJ Mayo, Beasley and Evan Turner. And on top of that, we could go 0-82 and our most likely draft slot is still 4th.

If we're flat out lousy at the trade deadline, blow it up, send all the vets away for whatever you can get and let the chips fall where they may, but don't sit productive young players.

 

[SirStefan32]

No tanking, please. Enough is enough.

 

[Mainstreet]

No tanking, please. Enough is enough.

Agree. No tanking early on.

However, if the Suns are lousy at the trade deadline I have no problem with them parting with some older players like Chandler, Dudley and perhaps Bledsoe.

 

[SirStefan32]

Agree. No tanking early on.

However, if the Suns are lousy at the trade deadline I have no problem with them parting with some older players like Chandler, Dudley and perhaps Bledsoe.

I agree, but I don't think shipping them off will make them that much worse for the rest of the season. All that will do is remove any shred of veteran leadership they have on the team.

 

[GatorAZ]

My preference would be to tank for one more season but I think the team takes a couple steps forward this year. Booker will be entering his 3rd year, Warren 4th and Bledsoe won't be intentionally sat down again.

I think the teams that will be worse are LA, SAC, DAL, CHI, IND, BRK and maybe a couple more. Hoping to get lucky in the lottery for once.

 

[Errntknght]

I don't know, guys, keeping Watson at the helm is semi--tanking and if the incoming draft class is as good as you seem to think, it's no time for half measures. The problem is that we have enough talent on the team that they could play well in spite of Earl - the players will not be tanking in any circumstance. Without Brandon Knight we only have only Len as a sure fire tanking piece - and its possible the light will come on for him at long last.

Its a different topic but for Len's own sake I hope he jumps to Europe or China - for whatever reason he is declining here so he needs a fresh start. I'm a bit surprised he didn't get some kind of an offer but I suppose every team figured if they offered what he was worth the Suns would match, so why bother.

 

[DevonCardsFan]

I am all for tanking land a big!

 

[Superbone]

No tanking!

We have young players. We are going to lose a lot of games this year. But there is no reason to sit players any more. Besides, the only vet that could possibly deserve to be in the starting line up right now is Chandler--and that is not certain. He is declining. Tanking right now would demand playing the vets more, not less.

Try to win every game.

Did I miss something, was Bledsoe traded? That's why I wouldn't mind a Bledsoe trade for even more youth and picks. Then roll out the young guys and have them do their best. We will naturally have a bad record and high lottery pick. Bledsoe is the only one I think that could bump up our record into a lower lottery pick.

Bledsoe has been a pro. Get him to a contender where he can thrive.

 

[pokerface]

The suns are just going to have to play it out. They will lose due to youth but maybe have enough natural talent to win a few as well. I'd rather see them win despite the lottery because I'm sick of them losing. I'd like to see them get some confidence out there.

 

[Carolinacacti]

I guess I'm the only one thinking playoffs. Need to see if Earl can coach. Have hope Sun fans its going to be a fun year.

 

[Jay Cardinal]

I hate to say it, but I would accept another tank this year. Their is more franchise changing bigs coming up this year than I can ever remember.

I think this team will be improved over last year, so need to trade Bledsoe for pick(s), if serious about tanking.

 

[Mainstreet]

I agree, but I don't think shipping them off will make them that much worse for the rest of the season. All that will do is remove any shred of veteran leadership they have on the team.

I do not believe the Suns are going to ship out all the veteran players at the trade deadline. Actually I used the word some.

The players I mentioned were examples of players the Suns might want to trade at the trade deadline if they do not show significant improvement from last season. The Suns would be shopping for draft picks and young assets or expiring contracts.

I can't see a scenario where trading all the veterans would be worthwhile.

 

[BC867]

No tanking, please. Enough is enough.

That says it all. One more time is a few too many. Enough of the loser mentality.

 

[Cheesebeef]

I agree, but I don't think shipping them off will make them that much worse for the rest of the season. All that will do is remove any shred of veteran leadership they have on the team.

It certainly made them a hell of a lot worse last year. They were a pretty damn bad team prior to shutting down the vets... and they were downright godawful after.

 

[Cheesebeef]

I agree, but I don't think shipping them off will make them that much worse for the rest of the season. All that will do is remove any shred of veteran leadership they have on the team.

It certainly made them a hell of a lot worse last year. They were a pretty damn bad team prior to shutting down the vets... and they were downright godawful after.

 

[Errntknght]

It certainly made them a hell of a lot worse last year. They were a pretty damn bad team prior to shutting down the vets... and they were downright godawful after.

True, but the were more fun to watch with all young guys out there - and ball and player movement were better with Ulis at point.

 

[Cheesebeef]

True, but the were more fun to watch with all young guys out there - and ball and player movement were better with Ulis at point.

Which is all fine by me to happen again if we stink at mid season

 

[pokerface]

We might have to keep this thread handy in case things go south cuz I'm not starting a tanking thread. Been there done that.

 

[Ouchie-Z-Clown]

We might have to keep this thread handy in case things go south cuz I'm not starting a tanking thread. Been there done that.

Figured I'd take the heat off you this season.