Day 1 Senior Bowl practice

[juza76]

I think Beal looks pretty good. 266 is a bit heavy for him but he seems to still have quickness. I he would drop about 8-10 pounds, very reasonable, he would be even quicker. He looks like alegit 2nd round target for the Cards. The DL from Iowa, Ballard had looked good too. The guy who has looked the best to me is Cameron Jordan of Cal. Like mentioned earlier, the two Wisky OL have looked good and so has Solder and Costanzo.

by twitter i have all the draft expert news about senior bowl and all of them are really dissapointed about beal.instead they are praising cameron jordan..they said is unblockable.he is beating all the offensive lineman

 

[Seandonic]

I've always seen OLB Marc Herzlich in the 230ish range and therefore more of a 4-3 OLB. That list had him at 6-4 250. With that size I would seriously consider him as a 3-4 OLB or ILB. He's got so much heart and instincts. He would be a great addition to this heartless bunch of quitters the Cards got now.

 

[Stout]

has good height..he will be easily at 250 for the next season..i think he will be selected by cardinals at 5..now it looks like a reach,,but you will se after combine

Actually, they said that Miller's body frame didn't look like it could add the weight.

 

[Cards Czar]

If you say so, and I'm sure you've done, as per usual, in-depth research.

Man... I spell "catalogue" the correct way, and then I have a giant frozen dump laid right on my doorstep. :

Stay out of those catalogs and this wouldn't happen.

 

[Cbus cardsfan]

by twitter i have all the draft expert news about senior bowl and all of them are really dissapointed about beal.instead they are praising cameron jordan..they said is unblockable.he is beating all the offensive lineman

I also read that about Beal but I was going by what I saw. He showed good get off. The reason I think he looked bad to some is that he was lining up in a down position and taking on the big LT's one on one. He won't be doing that so much as a 3-4 OLB. Pluse he looks like he hasa good motor too.

 

[joeshmo]

I also read that about Beal but I was going by what I saw. He showed good get off. The reason I think he looked bad to some is that he was lining up in a down position and taking on the big LT's one on one. He won't be doing that so much as a 3-4 OLB. Pluse he looks like he hasa good motor too.

Beal just doesnt look to have that quick change of direction or that quick twitch you look for out of a 3-4 OLB.

I actually like thehuddlereports idea for the kid. Because of his motor, instincts, leadership, wrap and drive tackler, and smarts he could make for a really good 3-4 SILB. Wont make for a good LB in coverage but your 3-4 SILB isnt usually on the field in the nickel package anyways.

 

[Cbus cardsfan]

Beal just doesnt look to have that quick change of direction or that quick twitch you look for out of a 3-4 OLB.

I actually like thehuddlereports idea for the kid. Because of his motor, instincts, leadership, wrap and drive tackler, and smarts he could make for a really good 3-4 SILB. Wont make for a good LB in coverage but your 3-4 SILB isnt usually on the field in the nickel package anyways.

He's certainly big enough to play inside. I think LB group as a whole has been pretty disappointing. The only 2 guys that really stood out have been Von Miller and Kelvin Shepherd. Shepherd is a guy to keep your eye on. He was rated the #1 ILB going into the year but had a disappointing senior year. Alot of that could be who was playing the DL in front of him.

 

[kerouac9]

Beal just doesnt look to have that quick change of direction or that quick twitch you look for out of a 3-4 OLB.

I actually like thehuddlereports idea for the kid. Because of his motor, instincts, leadership, wrap and drive tackler, and smarts he could make for a really good 3-4 SILB. Wont make for a good LB in coverage but your 3-4 SILB isnt usually on the field in the nickel package anyways.

Maybe not a rush linebacker like a Porter or Woodley, but he could play the strong side like a younger, better Clark Haggans.

 

[az jam]

QB Updates from Scott Wright NFL Draft Countdown on Tuesday practices:

• T.C.U. QB Andy Dalton was solid, but far from special. Dalton’s throwing mechanics are very clean and his arm strength appears to be adequate but the results were merely average and on one play he overthrew intended target D.J. Williams which led to an interception my Colin McCarthy.

• Alabama’s Greg McElroy may be the most impressive quarterback in Mobile so far this week. That’s not to say McElroy was amazing and his arm strength is just average, at best, but the guy is extremely accurate and does all the little things. On one play in particular McElroy hit Greg Salas with a deep ball for a touchdown, which was dropped right in the bucket with outstanding touch.

• Florida St. QB Christian Ponder was inconsistent for the most part and did not stand out. One thing that jumps out at you in person is Ponder’s arm strength, or lack thereof.

• Washington QB Jake Locker had another inconsistent day at the office. Locker looked like he refined his footwork and technique a bit from Day 1, but continued to struggle throwing the ball. Locker’s passes were often inaccurate and once again flew over receivers heads. Between the hash marks Locker looked like an NFL quarterback, throwing sharp balls right on the numbers. On the out and corner routes, he just sailed many of his attempts. Locker twice had the Boise State receivers wide open for a deep pass and missed them in drills. When Locker got to the 11-on-11’s he did a little better and made some scrambling throws while under duress that were impressive. However, Locker was still inconsistent overall and is not answering the questions we all had.

• Iowa QB Ricky Stanzi improved significantly today. His dropback wasn’t very smooth and he often took longer steps than needed, which led to a bit of coaching from the Bengals QB Coach. On the longer passes, Stanzi put the ball in the perfect place, hitting San Diego St. WR Vincent Brown on a nice corner route during receiver drills. Stanzi also showed improved zip on his balls. In the 11-on-11 drills, Stanzi executed a screen to perfection and even showed some escapability under pressure to run out of the pocket and make a solid short pass on the run. Overall, a good day for Stanzi.

• Nevada QB Colin Kaepernick had a very poor practice. His wind-up is simply too long and very awkward, leading to some inaccurate passes. The Bengals QB coach often stopped him during the receiver drills to work on footwork and throwing motion. Kaepernick did not seem to change much and continued to struggle. The arrow is definitely trending down on him.

 

[juza76]

i know the arizona cardinals like von miller
http://www.draftcountdown.com/features/SeniorBowl/img/blog/millerarizona.jpg

 

[joeshmo]

Maybe not a rush linebacker like a Porter or Woodley, but he could play the strong side like a younger, better Clark Haggans.

Haggans still has good change of direction and can drop back into coverage. Beal, not so much.

 

[ARodg]

I'm not too high on Von Miller considering I've never seen him use a single pass rushing move. Everybit of succes he's had has simply been as a result of beating a College Level OT to the spot and then turning the corner. At 240, he seems maxed out, and he doesn't have the bull rush move that a lot of the elite pass rushers have. The way most pass rushers in the 3-4 get pressure is by keeping the OT off guard, not sure whether to expect the speed rush to the outside or the bullrush/other move. If Miller doesn't have any of those moves, he's going to get ridden right out of the play.

This guy does a better job of explaining it than me.

http://sidelinescouting.com/columns/vonmiller.shtml

Personally, I find myself on the Justin Houston bandwagon at OLB

 

[Mulli]

If the Cardinals pick Craig McElroy with anything higher than a 6th, I will vomit.

 

[Monty]

I've always seen OLB Marc Herzlich in the 230ish range and therefore more of a 4-3 OLB. That list had him at 6-4 250. With that size I would seriously consider him as a 3-4 OLB or ILB. He's got so much heart and instincts. He would be a great addition to this heartless bunch of quitters the Cards got now.

I actually really like Herzlich as a potential SILB. His current reported size of 6'4 250 plays reasonably well at the position .He is very good in coverage and in particular at sticking to his gap assignments. When you watch tape of him you will see he almost never gets fooled on misdirections or bootlegs. When tackling he doesnt have the greatest technique in that he tackles a bit too high and needs to learn to lower his pads to hit lower as well as using his feet to drive through the ballcarrier, but he wraps up the ball carrier well and currently his immense upper body strength means more often than not he is able to take the ballcarrier down. Furthermore, the guy just loves to lay the wood and makes good contact which goes very well with his fearless and instinctive style of play, to create a good combination of SILB skillsets.

I do not see him as an 3-4 OLB because he neither has the speed or an adequate enough number of pass rush moves. Becuase of his very good upper body strenght it can seem like he can shed blocks well becuase he just overpowers offensive lineman but in reality that will never work in the NFL.

That said, he is a fighter and has an incredible strong willpower. He survived a terrible cancer a year ago and his ability to come back from that shows his tenacity and willpower. He is a vocal and instinctice player and leader on the field and for me he overall represents a very good SILB candidate.

 

[ARodg]

If the Cardinals pick Craig McElroy with anything higher than a 6th, I will vomit.

I'm feeling Stanzi at #5.

 

[Mulli]

I'm feeling Stanzi at #5.

"Moxie"

 

[Cardiac]

I'm not too high on Von Miller considering I've never seen him use a single pass rushing move. Everybit of succes he's had has simply been as a result of beating a College Level OT to the spot and then turning the corner. At 240, he seems maxed out, and he doesn't have the bull rush move that a lot of the elite pass rushers have. The way most pass rushers in the 3-4 get pressure is by keeping the OT off guard, not sure whether to expect the speed rush to the outside or the bullrush/other move. If Miller doesn't have any of those moves, he's going to get ridden right out of the play.

This guy does a better job of explaining it than me.

http://sidelinescouting.com/columns/vonmiller.shtml

Personally, I find myself on the Justin Houston bandwagon at OLB

Mike Mayok loves Von Miller. In referring to his notes he stated he wrote WOW more then any other player in this years draft. Says he defies gravity.

I wonder if a college kid with crazy speed who has had a lot of success can learn some pass rush moves in the Pros. His size (weight) seems to be most experts concerns.

Check out their mock draft on this site and they are very high on Miller as well.

I am also a Houston fan so I'm not advocating for any one player at this point just saying if Mayock loves him then a at least have some lust for Miller.

 

[desertdawg]

Mike Mayok loves Von Miller. In referring to his notes he stated he wrote WOW more then any other player in this years draft. Says he defies gravity.

I wonder if a college kid with crazy speed who has had a lot of success can learn some pass rush moves in the Pros. His size (weight) seems to be most experts concerns.

Check out their mock draft on this site and they are very high on Miller as well.

I am also a Houston fan so I'm not advocating for any one player at this point just saying if Mayock loves him then a at least have some lust for Miller.

Haven't seen him play but he sounds like a Clay Mathews type LB. Always everywhere and in the mix, physically gifted, nose for the ball.

 

[Russ Smith]

Haven't seen him play but he sounds like a Clay Mathews type LB. Always everywhere and in the mix, physically gifted, nose for the ball.

Also sounds like if he's going to get bigger he'll have to talk to Clay about "nutrition and dietary supplements."

Some guys just play well despite their size, look at Dumervil, but I do think Miller looks pretty small and with Washington and Schofield actually bigger than him it makes you wonder.

 

[ARodg]

Haven't seen him play but he sounds like a Clay Mathews type LB. Always everywhere and in the mix, physically gifted, nose for the ball.

I'm not seeing that comparison at all.

Matthews has a pretty impressive array of moves, spins especially, plus a very effective bull rush, to go with pretty impressive speed off the ball.

Miller is probably faster off the ball, but I've yet to see him use a bull rush or any kind of move.

Clay's 20 pounds heavier, and significantly stronger (He's also probably using HGH) From everything I've been reading on Miller he's pretty much maxed out in the 240 range. I also don't believe at all that Clay's playing at 255. He looks closer to 270 to me.

Other than being 3-4 OLBs they have almost nothing in common.

 

[kerouac9]

K9's new draft pick man-crush? Marshall TE Lee Smith:

Marshall TE Lee Smith is a bit lumbering as a receiver and certainly not very flashy but he’s a heck of a football player. After showcasing his blocker prowess yesterday, Smith made an impact as a pass catcher today with a fantastic one-handed catch. An excellent all-around tight end, Smith will remind you of a poor-man’s Brandon Pettigrew.

6'6", 267.

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[juza76]

the cardinals had in their radar von miller all the season.they watched some games he played with texas a&m..i m pretty sure if he will be at 5 they will pick him..they like him a lot..he will be our sack master..when we saw a cardinals player racking up more then 10 sacks in a season??

 

[Dayman]

To those asking where Texans A+M LB Von Miller will go in the NFL draft, the early signs are, Top 5 pick. 30 minutes ago via ÜberTwitter Retweeted by 62 people


AdamSchefter
Adam Schefter

Miller's stock is going through the roof.

 

[ARodg]

the cardinals had in their radar von miller all the season.they watched some games he played with texas a&m..i m pretty sure if he will be at 5 they will pick him..they like him a lot..he will be our sack master..when we saw a cardinals player racking up more then 10 sacks in a season??

Has a guy ever recorded 10 sacks without a move? I'm not saying it isn't possible, but this guy screams, athletic freak, no position, to me.

 

[Longcolts]

Has a guy ever recorded 10 sacks without a move? I'm not saying it isn't possible, but this guy screams, athletic freak, no position, to me.

Mike Mayock doesn't seem to agree with you at all. He has him rated as the #1 linebacker prospect in the draft.