DBacks acquire Trumbo in 3 team deal

[sfrancis13]

Don't worry. The new GM will have sent him packing by then.

He is arb eligible this year and will probably make $4 to $4.5 mil this year.

 

[crisper57]

You do realize 2014 happens in 22 days right?

Then KT should have been fired 22 minutes ago.

 

[sundevil04]

Also, I think we still move Cahill. There are some teams that will need SP and we still need BP help.

if we move Cahill wouldn't we be forced into moving McCarthy into teh 5 spot NO THANK YOU.

 

[PDXChris]

if we move Cahill wouldn't we be forced into moving McCarthy into teh 5 spot NO THANK YOU.

There are a couple of other young arms in the system that will have make or break years this year.

Zeke Spruill
Andrew Chafin
Kevin Munson


Then there is also Josh Collmenter who could get another chance. I think that KT is still looking for another SP though.

But I agree, no to McCarthy.

 

[sundevil04]

There are a couple of other young arms in the system that will have make or break years this year.

Zeke Spruill
Andrew Chafin
Kevin Munson


Then there is also Josh Collmenter who could get another chance. I think that KT is still looking for another SP though.

But I agree, no to McCarthy.

I think Collmenter is too valuable as a long reliever, especially on a team likley to have two rookei SP's (Bradley & Sprill/Chafin/Munson)

 

[PDXChris]

I think Collmenter is too valuable as a long reliever, especially on a team likley to have two rookei SP's (Bradley & Sprill/Chafin/Munson)

I agree, but he has made it known he wants to start again. Who knows, maybe we go after Price and get him. Dreaming is free you know.

 

[Chris_Sanders]

I may be alone but I'm more disgusted that they traded Eaton than anything.

No I loved me some Eaton.

 

[PDXChris]

No I loved me some Eaton.

We still have a AAAA OF in Tony Campana who is very similar.

They are the same size, put up almost the same numbers so far, expect Campana steals a ton of bases.

 

[MaoTosiFanClub]

No I loved me some Eaton.

As they say - Don't mistake activity for achievement.

 

[PDXChris]

Both prospects are rule 5 eligible. This deal is beyond pathetic. We just traded a good pitching prospect and outfield prospect for Mark Reynolds.

Arizona also will reportedly receive two players to be named -- those names likely withheld because at least one of those players will be exposed in Thursday's Rule 5 draft.

Only one

http://espn.go.com/mlb/story/_/id/1...am-trade-chicago-white-sox-los-angeles-angels

 

[Phrazbit]

As they say - Don't mistake activity for achievement.

Someone should tell that to KT. To have spent a year trying to dump Upton only to ship out two highly touted prospects a year later to fill his void with Mark Freakin Trumbo... its lunacy.

Cody Ross and his laughable contract havnt even been mentioned yet in all this. Now a 4/5th outfielder who is still owed 18 million over the next two years.

 

[AZ Native]

I too am going to miss Eaton.

 

[82CardsGrad]

Trumbo is a below .800 OPS hitter, for a "slugger" that is pathetic. And I am not impressed by 54 walks in 620 at bats. He does not get on base, he does hot hit for average, he does not field. Home runs are nice but 30 is not exactly blowing anyones mind, you have to do SOMETHING else to be worth your salt.

By his career rates the guy is not even as good as Mark Reynolds. I cannot believe we just gave up one of the top minor league arms in baseball and a dude the Dbacks had been raving about as our center fielder of the future... for this.

I know I am the alleged king of hyperbole when it comes to things I disagree with, but KT is the worst damn GM in the league. An absolute embarrassment.

How many other players hit 30 or more HR's last season?

 

[JerkFace]

No I loved me some Eaton.

Gambo on 620 is saying that Eaton was a bit spoiled and entitled and wasn't very liked in the locker room.

 

[Brian]

I've just heard Gambo and then Jude LaCava both say on two different stations that they have had conversations with players in the clubhouse and they were both told that Eaton wasn't liked by his teammates. One player even said "well, the clubhouse just got better."

Both used the word "entitled" as how he was described by the players.

So maybe addition by subtraction?

 

[Brian]

Gambo on 620 is saying that Eaton was a bit spoiled and entitled and wasn't very liked in the locker room.

Got me by 1 minute.

 

[82CardsGrad]

Anyone who thinks this provides legit protection for Goldschmidt is fooling themselves. No one is going to be afraid to pitch to an impatient hitter who's only threat is the 1/20 chance he hits a home run.

And seriously, what is the image this team is going for? Trumbo is the kind of hitter the team spent the last few years deliberately getting rid of.

FWIW, Tim Salmon said he expects Trumbo to hit 50 HR's as a Dback...

 

[crisper57]

Curt Schilling ‏@gehrig38 36m
Love what the angels got in the trade, trumbo could destroy that ballpark in Arizona.

 

[82CardsGrad]

I've just heard Gambo and then Jude LaCava both say on two different stations that they have had conversations with players in the clubhouse and they were both told that Eaton wasn't liked by his teammates. One player even said "well, the clubhouse just got better."

Both used the word "entitled" as how he was described by the players.

So maybe addition by subtraction?

As someone who spent a great deal of time in a dugout - I will vouch for the benefits in getting rid of guys like Upton, Bauer and Eaton...

 

[Dback Jon]

I've just heard Gambo and then Jude LaCava both say on two different stations that they have had conversations with players in the clubhouse and they were both told that Eaton wasn't liked by his teammates. One player even said "well, the clubhouse just got better."

Both used the word "entitled" as how he was described by the players.

So maybe addition by subtraction?

Interesting.

A piece of information not known to us message board GM's

 

[Phrazbit]

Someone explain this for me. Towers has spent two years thumping his chest about his efforts to get guys who make tough outs, work the count, get on base... how in the world does Mark Trumbo fit into that philosophy. He is as bad in those departments as anyone we've had in recent years. This is a guy with a .295 career OBP who struck out 184 times last year.

As for the idea that he will hit "50 homeruns" next year in Chase. Trumbo's home run totals have not been held back by wall distance or think sea air, he is held back by his inability to put the ball in play.

 

[BC867]

As for the idea that he will hit "50 homeruns" next year in Chase. Trumbo's home run totals have not been held back by wall distance or think sea air, he is held back by his inability to put the ball in play.

I don't care about home runs. Home runs lead to many more unproductive popups, which somehow infect the whole lineup.

And now, another sub-par BAVG and OBP to bat behind Goldy?

As I posted in the other Trumbo thread, we needed a younger healthy Eric Chavez. He is the only one last season who gave Goldy protection. And he batted lefty.

A free swinging righty is a waste hitting behind Goldy. Trumbo will join the list of disappointing cleanup hitters who have come and gone.

 

[Phrazbit]

Kieth Law craps on the trade:

The Diamondbacks' end of this leaves me at a total loss. They acquired a player they didn't need who doesn't fit their current roster and gave up two young, cheap, controllable assets on whom they seem to have completely soured in the past 10 months. Mark Trumbo is a very limited player overall -- he can only play first base and his huge raw power (at least a 70 on the 20-80) scale is mitigated by his inability to hit breaking stuff, resulting in chronic sub-.300 OBPs.

With Paul Goldschmidt kind of OK over there at first, Trumbo will have to play left field, which will bring back memories of Ryan Klesko for those of you old enough to remember that adventure; I can picture the Diamondbacks' front office sitting there at Salt River Fields in late March and wondering what the heck they've done. The minor leaguers coming to Arizona -- one from the Angels, reportedly fringy relief prospect AJ Schugel, and one from the White Sox -- don't matter enough to change the fact this is a net loss of value for the Diamondbacks.

There could be a ripple effect for Arizona, as now third baseman Matt Davidson becomes a surplus asset with Martin Prado likely moving from left field to third base.

http://insider.espn.go.com/blog/keith-law/post?id=1695

 

[Chris_Sanders]

Prado at LF? God can these guys at least do some research before they talk about Az teams.

He played 113 games at 3B and 30 at OF. Gee Keith where do you think he was playing next year?

 

[Phrazbit]

Prado at LF? God can these guys at least do some research before they talk about Az teams.

He played 113 games at 3B and 30 at OF. Gee Keith where do you think he was playing next year?

But Davidson wasnt up until the end of the year. He was talking about our projected lineup pre-trade.