Dbacks vs Dodgers series thread

[AzStevenCal]

The Dodgers are to blame for two World Wars and the corruption of rock and roll. I think they were probably on the grassy knoll. Here's a picture of their silent partner.

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I must be tired. I took a look at that picture and tried to figure out the connection between the Dodgers and Leonard Cohen. I'd never noticed a resemblance to the Smoking Man before.

Steve

 

[Gaddabout]

Ha! Poilet wants a 12-game suspension for Kennedy.

http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/2...odgers-brawl-after-zack-greinke-gets-drilled/

 

[82CardsGrad]

What a major bummer of a loss, after such a major feel-good win the night before... Can't believe Hernandez was horrific...
Goldy is slumping bad and needs some rest. Mentally, you can see his approach at the plate is lagging. He's taking too much strikes and swinging at too many balls, and is now consistently behind in the count...
Prado continues to seriously under- perform.
Kennedy did everything right tonight. The issue of hitting batters is a very, very dicey slippery slope. The only issue I have with Ian is that he was head-hunting. And I'm not sure why as he knows full well just how dangerous that is. It's also way out of character for him as he is a rock-solid, devoted Christian. Hitting someone in the back or below the waists is one thing, but gunning for the head is entirely a whole other tactic that will absolutely land Kennedy on the bench for an extended period of time.
Still, it was the Dodgers and Mattingly that were looking for this fight. No am sure they are extremely frustrated by their crappy season thus far, and the success the Dbacks have enjoyed. Mattingly needs to be called out for keeping Grienke in the game to bat as he never intended to run him back out to pitch. He knew Kennedy had no option but to bean him... That's seriously bush- league stuff.

 

[unseenaz]

The only issue I have with Ian is that he was head-hunting. And I'm not sure why as he knows full well just how dangerous that is. It's also way out of character for him as he is a rock-solid, devoted Christian. Hitting someone in the back or below the waists is one thing, but gunning for the head is entirely a whole other tactic that will absolutely land Kennedy on the bench for an extended period of time.

I don't think he was "head hunting" the Puig pitch was a mistake. The Grienke pitch was intentional, but I highly doubt it was intentionally at his head. Kennedy isn't a barbarian. Either way, I hate the profanity filter on these boards, but I don't like Grienke, and I hate the Dodgers. What I loved about Grienke getting hit was Kennedy showed no emotion, just stared at him. Awesome.

 

[JS22]

Too bad Hernandez threw up all over the place. Was a perfect night otherwise. Good to see Kennedy show some b*lls, too.

Oh well, take 2 out of 3 and move on.

 

[Phrazbit]

Too bad Hernandez threw up all over the place. Was a perfect night otherwise. Good to see Kennedy show some b*lls, too.

Oh well, take 2 out of 3 and move on.

Agreed. Not only did Kennedy earn some respect by drilling that dirt bag Grienke but that was the best game he has pitched in over a month.

 

[Dback Jon]

Agreed. Not only did Kennedy earn some respect by drilling that dirt bag Grienke but that was the best game he has pitched in over a month.

No doubt!

 

[82CardsGrad]

I don't think he was "head hunting" the Puig pitch was a mistake. The Grienke pitch was intentional, but I highly doubt it was intentionally at his head. Kennedy isn't a barbarian. Either way, I hate the profanity filter on these boards, but I don't like Grienke, and I hate the Dodgers. What I loved about Grienke getting hit was Kennedy showed no emotion, just stared at him. Awesome.

I've been on the field during several bench-clearing brawls in my day... never at the major league level of course. However, I've seen pitchers intentionally throw at batters on hundreds of occasions.
You would be amazed at the accuracy of pitchers - especially major league pitchers.
Kennedy could have easily hit Puig and Grienke in the back, or waist or legs. Instead, both pitches were aimed above the shoulders... Frankly, I'm appauled and shocked he did that. The league will not take it lightly either...
Having said that, I entirely applaud the premise. I doubt that Gibby told Kennedy to aim above the shoulders... Puig is way too big for his rookie britches and Grienke needed to be clocked. But again, head-hunting with 90mph hardballs is lethal... and just plain stupid.

 

[AzStevenCal]

I've been on the field during several bench-clearing brawls in my day... never at the major league level of course. However, I've seen pitchers intentionally throw at batters on hundreds of occasions.
You would be amazed at the accuracy of pitchers - especially major league pitchers.
Kennedy could have easily hit Puig and Grienke in the back, or waist or legs. Instead, both pitches were aimed above the shoulders... Frankly, I'm appauled and shocked he did that. The league will not take it lightly either...
Having said that, I entirely applaud the premise. I doubt that Gibby told Kennedy to aim above the shoulders... Puig is way too big for his rookie britches and Grienke needed to be clocked. But again, head-hunting with 90mph hardballs is lethal... and just plain stupid.

I disagree. There is just no way that Kennedy was throwing AT Puig. He's got a slim lead and a two strike count. He's just trying to throw inside to a hitter that has been taking away the inside of the plate. Yes, he should not have thrown that high at Greinke but have you been watching Kennedy? He's having trouble with location more often than not. Obviously, he intended to hit Greinke and I even think he intended to hit him high but I seriously doubt he intended it to sail that high. He wanted it high to send a message but he wasn't head hunting.

The Dodgers clearly crossed the line when they threw at Montero not once, not twice but three times before they finally nailed him. Plus, they had no case for retaliation in the first place because it should have been obvious to them (in much the same way they insisted it should have been obvious with the Quentin incident) that the Puig HBP was not intentional. On top of all that, apparently everyone has forgotten that they actually started the HBP fest when they hit Ross with a pitch in the 5th inning.

Steve

 

[Matt L]

I've been on the field during several bench-clearing brawls in my day... never at the major league level of course. However, I've seen pitchers intentionally throw at batters on hundreds of occasions.
You would be amazed at the accuracy of pitchers - especially major league pitchers.
Kennedy could have easily hit Puig and Grienke in the back, or waist or legs. Instead, both pitches were aimed above the shoulders... Frankly, I'm appauled and shocked he did that. The league will not take it lightly either...
Having said that, I entirely applaud the premise. I doubt that Gibby told Kennedy to aim above the shoulders... Puig is way too big for his rookie britches and Grienke needed to be clocked. But again, head-hunting with 90mph hardballs is lethal... and just plain stupid.

I agree, throwing high is dangerous and bush league. I really don't understand all the venom towards greinke.

 

[Brian]

I disagree. There is just no way that Kennedy was throwing AT Puig. He's got a slim lead and a two strike count. He's just trying to throw inside to a hitter that has been taking away the inside of the plate. Yes, he should not have thrown that high at Greinke but have you been watching Kennedy? He's having trouble with location more often than not. Obviously, he intended to hit Greinke and I even think he intended to hit him high but I seriously doubt he intended it to sail that high. He wanted it high to send a message but he wasn't head hunting.

The Dodgers clearly crossed the line when they threw at Montero not once, not twice but three times before they finally nailed him. Plus, they had no case for retaliation in the first place because it should have been obvious to them (in much the same way they insisted it should have been obvious with the Quentin incident) that the Puig HBP was not intentional. On top of all that, apparently everyone has forgotten that they actually started the HBP fest when they hit Ross with a pitch in the 5th inning.

Steve

Completely agree, and let's not forget that the first throw at Miggy was up by his head. Warnings should have been issued right then and there.

 

[82CardsGrad]

Completely agree, and let's not forget that the first throw at Miggy was up by his head. Warnings should have been issued right then and there.

Totally agree that a warning should've been issued after the Miggy incident. And I'll cut Kennedy some slack on the Puig beaning...I guess...
But the hit in Grienke was beyond stupid and over the line dangerous. I would be shocked if the league doesn't hammer him hard with a big suspension... Which will only hurt our rotation and he team. Stupid...

 

[Brian]

Totally agree that a warning should've been issued after the Miggy incident. And I'll cut Kennedy some slack on the Puig beaning...I guess...
But the hit in Grienke was beyond stupid and over the line dangerous. I would be shocked if the league doesn't hammer him hard with a big suspension... Which will only hurt our rotation and he team. Stupid...

I'd be shocked at anything less than 15 games. I'm also curious as to why Grienke was even in the batter's box. I really thought his night was over.

 

[Gee!]

Ian said he didn't mean to hit him..

http://arizonasports.com/42/1641352/Dbacks-Kennedy-Didnt-mean-to-hit-Greinke

 

[devilalum]

Ian said he didn't mean to hit him..

http://arizonasports.com/42/1641352/Dbacks-Kennedy-Didnt-mean-to-hit-Greinke

I don't know if I believe him but he doesn't have the greatest control and sometimes it gets worse as his pitch count goes up.

 

[AzStevenCal]

I don't know if I believe him but he doesn't have the greatest control and sometimes it gets worse as his pitch count goes up.

I think he intended to hit him and the point of his denial was centered around where he hit him. IMO, and I think it is mostly supported by his comments, he was trying to send a message but intended to hit him a little lower than he did. Regardless, if you throw high like that you're playing with fire. Especially someone like Kennedy who has clearly struggled with his control.

Steve

 

[AZ Native]

I'm really tired of watching Didi try to pull that outside pitch and miss by a mile. Bases load, 2 outs, 2 strikes, get your bat on the ball. He needs to learn to shorten his swing and hit to the opposite field.

 

[UncleChris]

I'm really tired of watching Didi try to pull that outside pitch and miss by a mile. Bases load, 2 outs, 2 strikes, get your bat on the ball. He needs to learn to shorten his swing and hit to the opposite field.

No kidding.

This bases loaded with nothing to show for it nonsense has got to stop if we intend to stay competitive.

 

[Avondale Red Rage]

Smoke and mirrors, smoke and mirrors.

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[coyoteshockeyfan]

Finally... end this thing

 

[AZ Native]

Bases loaded, no outs, 5-4 lead and League coming in. So far we have 18 hit and only 5 runs to show for it. Let's break this thing open.

 

[Mathew81]

Is Bell going to blow this?

 

[thirty-two]

Please get one more out, Bell.

 

[Mathew81]

Nice

 

[UncleChris]

Bell almost blew it in a number of ways, most of which being not getting his fat arse over there for the putout at first. While it DID seem that the runner missed the bag, it shouldn't even have been close had Bell done his job.

We won though.