Deadspin reveals details of Sanchez's relationship with 17 year old girl

[Shzm13]

Don't see what the big deal is. People have relations, both parties followed the law of age of consent, move along.

 

[Jersey Girl]

the interesting angle to this whole thing for me is that they are trying to make one side or the other a "victim" .... there is no victim here, just a couple people with really poor decision making skills and a chance to have one of those wonderful learning moments that life presents us with every so often ...... if they actually embrace the opportunity to learn something is a completely different question

Totally agree. We all have laspes in judgement. Glad none of mine have made the news. (And thank GOD the Internet was popular AFTER I got out of college!)

 

[Shane]

This might be one of the silliest things you have ever said on here Shane.

Whats so silly about it? please explain? A 17 year old physically is a woman and there really is no denying it.

 

[Shane]

#6. Yeah she is a year from College. She is also a year from him being a sex offender. That lack of judgement is astonishing.

Thats not actually true depending on where you live. Age of consent here in NV is 16

 

[Shzm13]

The problem is:

#1 She is still in high school.

#2. She was open about her age and the fact that she was a high school student, regardless of the location that they met.

#3. He continued to talk to her and eventually "hook up" with her long after knowing her actual age.

#4. There is a pattern of behavior that extends beyond this incident.

#5. 24 year old men have no business hooking up with high school girls. If I heard about some random 24 year old guy pursuing a high school girl, I would guess he was a loser or had some emotional issue where he hasn't matured with his age.

#6. Yeah she is a year from College. She is also a year from him being a sex offender. That lack of judgement is astonishing.

Excellent points, Chris. None of them change the fact that the two are of age and nothing illegal happened.

What should be in question, however, is the absolutely poopy parenting the girl's family has done. Smoking? Drinking? Out at a NY club? Yeah, this girl screams of victim, right?

 

[Conquest]

Poor judgement Mark, incredibly poor judgement.

 

[Jersey Girl]

Whats so silly about it? please explain? A 17 year old physically is a woman and there really is no denying it.

I agree with what Renz said earlier. I guess it really depends on how you define a woman physically. If you say getting your boobs and period count, then I know girls at age 10 that Sanchez can date as well.

And, just because you are technically a "woman" physically, doesn't mean you are one mentally.

 

[Jersey Girl]

Thats not actually true depending on where you live. Age of consent here in NV is 16

It's true where SHE lives and that's all that really matters.

 

[Russ Smith]

Excellent points, Chris. None of them change the fact that the two are of age and nothing illegal happened.

What should be in question, however, is the absolutely poopy parenting the girl's family has done. Smoking? Drinking? Out at a NY club? Yeah, this girl screams of victim, right?

I think it's clearly a judgement issue.

Here's my issue, assuming the girl is telling the truth about what was said initially, to paraphrase she said "you know I'm 17 right?" And his reply was something like well we can still talk. That right there tells you that even Sanchez knew it was "strange" for a guy his age to be hitting on a 17 year old, if he didn't think it was he wouldn't have said that. He was essentially saying well we can still hang out be friends, we just can't do any more because you're too young.

But according to her they ended up "hooking up" later.

It's just bad judgement, doesn't make him a criminal or a psychopath it's just really odd that a guy who went through what he did at USC would do something like this a few years later knowing he's the QB of the NY Jets and it's going to get out.

I think the girls' behavior is just as bad, posting pics, going public to get some attention etc. She's certainly not the only 17 year old to drink or have sex so I won't say a thing about that, but going public with it shows a lack of character in my eyes, it's the reality tv generation .

 

[Jersey Girl]

It's just bad judgement, doesn't make him a criminal or a psychopath it's just really odd that a guy who went through what he did at USC would do something like this a few years later knowing he's the QB of the NY Jets and it's going to get out.

Yup. Totally agree.

I think the girls' behavior is just as bad, posting pics, going public to get some attention etc. She's certainly not the only 17 year old to drink or have sex so I won't say a thing about that, but going public with it shows a lack of character in my eyes, it's the reality tv generation .

Yup. Totally something a high school girl would do, which shows her lack of maturity and which is why, in my opinion, it's inappropriate for a 24-year old to hook up with high school kids.

 

[Shane]

It's true where SHE lives and that's all that really matters.

Not really just shows the different moralistic views from state to state. Those ages are set for a reason. Reason being so a guy like Sanchez cant/wont be in trouble for this. Nor should he be. Nor should he be the least bit scrutinized.

Thus what he did EVEN IN that state was completely legal. This really is and should be a non issue. GUARANTEED 150 years ago this wouldn't even be a topic for debate. Society has just become so traumatized and brainwashed about what the belief for right and wrong is on this issue.

Let me ask you this. If 17 is wrong IYO? What makes that imaginary line of the crossover to 18 OK? Is an 18 year old IYO any more ready Physically or mentally to handle it than a girl that is 17 years 320 days old? I mean really?

 

[Shane]

I agree with what Renz said earlier. I guess it really depends on how you define a woman physically. If you say getting your boobs and period count, then I know girls at age 10 that Sanchez can date as well.

And, just because you are technically a "woman" physically, doesn't mean you are one mentally.

Nope physically isnt just boobs and periods. Obviously 10 I would have an issue with.

I challenge you to standup a 10 year old next to a 19 or 20 year old woman and see if I cant pick out the 10 year old. Where as many many if not all 17 year olds I most likely would have a problem picking out which is which.

 

[Jersey Girl]

Not really just shows the different moralistic views from state to state. Those ages are set for a reason. Reason being so a guy like Sanchez cant/wont be in trouble for this. Nor should he be. Nor should he be the least bit scrutinized.

Thus what he did EVEN IN that state was completely legal. This really is and should be a non issue. GUARANTEED 150 years ago this wouldn't even be a topic for debate. Society has just become so traumatized and brainwashed about what the belief for right and wrong is on this issue.

Let me ask you this. If 17 is wrong IYO? What makes that imaginary line of the crossover to 18 OK? Is an 18 year old IYO any more ready Physically or mentally to handle it than a girl that is 17 years 320 days old? I mean really?

I said it was bad judgement and you won't change my opinion on that. It's not about age for me; it's about circumstance. She is in high school, which means he can probably take her to the prom if he really wants. There is a WORLD of difference between being in high school and the so-called real world.

Would you be okay if a 24-year old teacher wanted to date a 17-year old?

Nope physically isnt just boobs and periods. Obviously 10 I would have an issue with.

I challenge you to standup a 10 year old next to a 19 or 20 year old woman and see if I cant pick out the 10 year old. Where as many many if not all 17 year olds I most likely would have a problem picking out which is which.

But, if the story is true, she told him straight up how old she was and he thought it was okay to pursue something with her ... which, legally, it was. Again, I am not saying he should be punished; I just think maybe he could make better choices.

And, I think we can all agree that there is a rather large maturity difference between a 17-year-old high schooler than a 20-year old college junior. I think you are focusing too much on just the physical aspect of things, which doesn't surprise me.

 

[Shane]

I said it was bad judgement and you won't change my opinion on that. It's not about age for me; it's about circumstance. She is in high school, which means he can probably take her to the prom if he really wants. There is a WORLD of difference between being in high school and the so-called real world.

Would you be okay if a 24-year old teacher wanted to date a 17-year old?



But, if the story is true, she told him straight up how old she was and he thought it was okay to pursue something with her ... which, legally, it was. Again, I am not saying he should be punished; I just think maybe he could make better choices.

And, I think we can all agree that there is a rather large maturity difference between a 17-year-old high schooler than a 20-year old college junior. I think you are focusing too much on just the physical aspect of things, which doesn't surprise me.

Well I'm not trying to change your opinion. I actually agree that it was poor judgment considering the high profile person that he is and the city he is in. Nothing good would come of it. But that's for him to deal with.

Oh and I'm not just looking the physical aspects. I guarantee you I could find you many 17 year olds that act more responsible and are more mature than a lot of 20 year olds. Smarty pants!

 

[Jersey Girl]

Well I'm not trying to change your opinion. I actually agree that it was poor judgment considering the high profile person that he is and the city he is in. Nothing good would come of it. But that's for him to deal with.

Oh and I'm not just looking the physical aspects. I guarantee you I could find you many 17 year olds that act more responsible and are more mature than a lot of 20 year olds. Smarty pants!

I knew I'd have at least one of you guys say that! And, that's one point I definitely will NOT argue.

 

[mojorizen7]

Not really just shows the different moralistic views from state to state. Those ages are set for a reason. Reason being so a guy like Sanchez cant/wont be in trouble for this. Nor should he be. Nor should he be the least bit scrutinized.

Thus what he did EVEN IN that state was completely legal. This really is and should be a non issue. GUARANTEED 150 years ago this wouldn't even be a topic for debate. Society has just become so traumatized and brainwashed about what the belief for right and wrong is on this issue.

Let me ask you this. If 17 is wrong IYO? What makes that imaginary line of the crossover to 18 OK? Is an 18 year old IYO any more ready Physically or mentally to handle it than a girl that is 17 years 320 days old? I mean really?

I tend to agree w/you Shane. Poor judgement abound concerning both parties involved but,IMO a non-issue in the grand scheme of things.

What if the 17 yr old girl was the celebrity getting into Manhattan clubs,and the 24 yr old older guy was the nobody? Would we be so quick to cut off Sanchez' balls? I think not.

 

[AZCardsWin]

I tend to agree w/you Shane. Poor judgement abound concerning both parties involved but,IMO a non-issue in the grand scheme of things.

What if the 17 yr old girl was the celebrity getting into Manhattan clubs,and the 24 yr old older guy was the nobody? Would we be so quick to cut off Sanchez' balls? I think not.

When this is all said and done the real issue will be the 24yr old adult purchasing alcohol for a 17yr old minor at these clubs.

 

[ARodg]

When this is all said and done the real issue will be the 24yr old adult purchasing alcohol for a 17yr old minor at these clubs.

Ding Ding Ding

We have a winner

 

[conraddobler]

Ding Ding Ding

We have a winner

Well it's going to be hard to prove now.

Even if she says he did, it's going to take someone else saying he did who was there to go somewhere.

Even as a father of three girls I'd have a hard time getting upset "at the guy" in this case, clearly the girl was as or more repsonsible for this transpiring.

He really shouldn't have done this though, just from a PR standpoint alone, forget everything else.

Each one of these guys and ESPECIALLY guys in NYC are media figures, this is just bone stupid to let happen.

 

[Shzm13]

So its Sanchez' fault for not carding her at the bar that she's not even supposed to be at because she's not 21?

What a joke!

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I gotta admit, though.. I thought Sanchez would have done better.

 

[earthsci]

So its Sanchez' fault for not carding her at the bar that she's not even supposed to be at because she's not 21?

What a joke!

Did you miss the part about her telling him that she was 17?

 

[WarnerHOF]

I don't see what the big deal is unless he raped her ala Rapistburger. I think anyone over 15 is old enough to make decisions about what they want to do sexually.

 

[Shane]

Did you miss the part about her telling him that she was 17?

Still irrelevant.

 

[Shzm13]

Did you miss the part about her telling him that she was 17?

Doesn't matter, she shouldn't have been there in the first place and its legal age of consent.

 

[schutd]

I'd like to know how a 17-year old gets into a Manhattan nightclub.

Really?????

Man, the offseason is boring.

I was sneaking into clubs at 17. I was 25 dating an 18 year old, I met my wife in a club. We are together 15 years and happy as hell, people. Relax.