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I never said Pace wouldn't get a big pay day but he sure wasn't missed.
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He wasn't? Man, we've had outstanding OLBers then, right? Oh wait....
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Wrong!
You are wrong bro. I was one of the only people who supported you in saying losing Pace was a bad deal for the Cards.
If Porter is healthy I do think we have improved on defense. I was rather stunned that we signed a player of Porters caliber. That is normally not he Cardinal way of doing things. It will be very interesting to see just how much all the teams have as a payroll after the season starts. This, of course, is not the normal season. Some teams as using it to reduce expenses. Others may go wild. I have no sense of what the Cards will do in the end. I suspect it will have to do with just how the Bidwills as a family have fared during this recession. Not just in football operations but in their private investments.
Not to many starters in their first year come out of the draft. Any further improvement THIS YEAR will have to come from FA or trades. Hopefully we will draft some guys who can be starters in the near future.
Ironic coming from you. You should go back and read the posts from 2008 when it came out that Pace was leaving.
Many posters wrote the same type thing to you when you defended Pace. In fact the threads are very similar to the ones about Dansby.
You even posted, when it was rumored that Pace had signed with Miami, that someone was way off base to think that Rod Graves knew more than Bill Parcells.
Even more ironic is that Buckybird was one of the few people who agreed with you that letting Pace go was a mistake.
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Prior to Pace's good year when most of you wanted to cut him, especially follwoing his mysterious accident, I was one of the very very few who maintained his best football was ahead of him. This is why I think you should think twice before you throw a young player under the bus. You never know when the "light goes on."
That said, I was not in favor of giving him what the Jets did and I'm still not.
That said, I was not in favor of giving him what the Jets did and I'm still not.
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I thought losing Pace was no big deal but that losing Dansby is. Maybe i'll be wrong again. Of course we could have kept them both, but..............
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Let's just pray we can get a ILB who can close a glaring hole in our D Cbus & hopefully it occurs this year.
Aren't Porter & Pace making similar money? One's pretty solid containing the edge against the run & rushing the passer, one is pretty much a 1 trick pony. Guess we will find out in August.
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yes we were
And we were right. Because Pace wasn't very good as a 4-3 DE. But once the Cards decided they wanted to switch to the 3-4 it was a different story. In fact I thought it strange that the Cards couldn't make the complete switch to the 3-4 in 2007 because they didn't have the personnel and then they let a prototype 3-4 olb leave in free agency the next spring.
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Yep & Pace brings the total package something that Porter doesn't at this stage of his career. Duck I hope like hell we can get a ILB in here to do what Dansby did, but it isn't gonna be easy. Weatherspoon most likely will be gone & I don't feel Washington is as good but could be. I have a feeling this thread will be addressed next year. Same time, same bat channel
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Our OLB's were good enough to get us to a superbowl without Pace, so I think we were fine without him. I don't think Porter is guaranteed anywhere near the same amount that Pace was, from what I remember. The same will hold true with Rolle and Dansby, the production does not amount to the money they were overpaid.
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Let me say this, if Pace would have been on the Cards roster we would have won a Lombardi. No way Big Ben would have been able to run around all day like he did. How many missed sacks did we miss on that last drive? The big one occured on 2 & 20 when DD & Smith both missed him at the 1 yd line.
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That's pure wishful thinking. Just like we all knew that Michael Adams was going to be the savior in the GB playoff game, right?
It was Dansby who was the savior in the GB game. If he doesn't block Rodgers throwing lane Adams never causes the fumble because the ball is gone. In fact without Dansby's great plays GB wins that game going away.
And I guarantee you that Pace would have made a difference in the SB and even moreso last season.
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Yep & Pace brings the total package something that Porter doesn't at this stage of his career. Duck I hope like hell we can get a ILB in here to do what Dansby did, but it isn't gonna be easy. Weatherspoon most likely will be gone & I don't feel Washington is as good but could be. I have a feeling this thread will be addressed next year. Same time, same bat channel
Guys, apparently Rolando McClain is doing some serious dropping since he could not finish his pro day workout. Now, I'm not saying he will drop all the way to us, (that would be sweet), but that might just let us see Weatherspoon on the board at our pick. Food for thought.
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Guys, apparently Rolando McClain is doing some serious dropping since he could not finish his pro day workout. Now, I'm not saying he will drop all the way to us, (that would be sweet), but that might just let us see Weatherspoon on the board at our pick. Food for thought.
cross your fingers & 9 toes Catfish
BTW I did hear on NFL Network just a few minutes ago that the Giants radio guy said if McClain was available there's no way they would pass him.
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