Derek Anderson gives us a much better chance to win than Max Hall

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There's zero argument!!! People hate his inaccurate passing but atleast he has flashes of being an elite QB and is hell of a lot better at decision making.

I'm not saying Anderson is the answer but he is literally an all pro compared to Max Hall.
 

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You must be joking...Hall has had hell of a game besides one throw. The INT to Talib was very bad, bad decision to go in double coverage and very hard throw to make. That was horrible no doubt.

Besides that he has been awsome QB today, there is zero argument to that

I'm not sure it's good to take him out because of that one horrible throw. KW has been making those as well with good outcome in the end.

He had something good going on (Hall) and he should learn from that mistake he made
 

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You must be joking...Hall has had hell of a game besides one throw. The INT to Talib was very bad, bad decision to go in double coverage and very hard throw to make. That was horrible no doubt.

Besides that he has been awsome QB today, there is zero argument to that

I'm not sure it's good to take him out because of that one horrible throw. KW has been making those as well with good outcome in the end.

He had something good going on (Hall) and he should learn from that mistake he made

Yeah all good QBs have 4.4 yards per attempt and two pick sixes as part of an awesome performance.
 

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Beanie Wells is a huge bust, keeping Hightower out, who is a complete player, and putting beanie in was a mistake.

Beanie cost the drive in not catching the easy catch on 3rd down and then almost got the QB killed blindsided and clearly resulted in INT and 7 points the other way.

Besides he hasn't been running good at all when there are no obvious holes.

He is a bust in my eyes from the day we drafted him.

they just need to work extra on learning Timmy how to control the football, ball security, this has been done with many RB's before and it's the easiest problem to fix. The coaching needs to be better there.
 

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Today no question DA gives us the better chance. I like Hall but you can't give away 2 TD's like that, you just can't do it and stay in the game.

AS soon as DA came in their safeties backed up.

If the D doesn't allow a score first drive we'll win, if they do, we'll lose.
 
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You must be joking...Hall has had hell of a game besides one throw. The INT to Talib was very bad, bad decision to go in double coverage and very hard throw to make. That was horrible no doubt.

Besides that he has been awsome QB today, there is zero argument to that

I'm not sure it's good to take him out because of that one horrible throw. KW has been making those as well with good outcome in the end.

He had something good going on (Hall) and he should learn from that mistake he made

Sorry but you can't discount two pick sixes and say he has a great game. John Kitna played awesome today if you discount those 4 interceptions. :mulli:
 

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Hall is awful. So, so awful.

Alot better than ML and DA.

He had one really bad decision and throw in same play. Outside of that, he has been good/great.

tell me where he has been awfull besides on one play???

Beaine sucks and so does the defense. Beanie has made many many more mistakes than Hall and he hasn't been benched...
 

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Sorry but you can't discount two pick sixes and say he has a great game. John Kitna played awesome today if you discount those 4 interceptions. :mulli:

I couldn't disagree more.

The one pick is on BEANIE WELLS. There is nobody who could do diffeernt being blindsided by an unblocked defender. It's an INT for any QB.

The INT throw to Talib was horrible, and that's his only big mistake of the game. Few minor mistakes like the missed handoff that he recovered well from.

Outside of that he has been great and have not desrved to be pulled off.

You need to analyse the game alot better
 

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Beanie Wells is a huge bust, keeping Hightower out, who is a complete player, and putting beanie in was a mistake.

Beanie cost the drive in not catching the easy catch on 3rd down and then almost got the QB killed blindsided and clearly resulted in INT and 7 points the other way.

Besides he hasn't been running good at all when there are no obvious holes.

He is a bust in my eyes from the day we drafted him.

they just need to work extra on learning Timmy how to control the football, ball security, this has been done with many RB's before and it's the easiest problem to fix. The coaching needs to be better there.
What are you talking about? Dont listen to the braindead booth members to make your arguments... Mr. Billick fails to mention that two players wee coming through clean to hit Hall on that play... what is Wells supposed to do? Block both of them?

How is Beanie a bust? He was a very good last season when he played.. Didn't he average 5 yards per carry?

The issue is we have two terrible QBs.. what team can run the ball when the other team has no fear of the QB??? Not to mention our Oline is mediocre
 

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We'll see but it looks like we can run on them with DA in. That's why I say if we hold them first drive, we'll win. If we don't, we'll be too far behind and Whiz will abandon the run.

Beanie did miss a TD on that last drive if he cuts left he has a TD, instead he runs straight up the middle for 3-4 yards. Weird because he has better vision than Tim but he didn't on that play
 

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What are you talking about? Dont listen to the braindead booth members to make your arguments... Mr. Billick fails to mention that two players wee coming through clean to hit Hall on that play... what is Wells supposed to do? Block both of them?

How is Beanie a bust? He was a very good last season when he played.. Didn't he average 5 yards per carry?

The issue is we have two terrible QBs.. what team can run the ball when the other team has no fear of the QB??? Not to mention our Oline is mediocre

I'm not sure you understand blocking assignments. You block the guy that is going to hit the QB first. The DEDT was chipped and was NOT going to hit the QB before he threw. In addition, he was in his vision.

The LB was in full speed over to the QB. Not in the vision, from blindside. A horrible horrible mistake by the bust RB that can't make this logic decision. Not only does it result in INT but it can also get any QB injured rest of the season.

YPC does not define a good RB. He make tons of mistakes in catching the football on 3rd downs that stalls drives and can't block within the scheme.


Besides that, he does not run the football well at all when there is no room. Only provided a big big hole he will do a much better job than Timmy. Outside of that Timmy is a much better RB all over.
 

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I'm not sure you understand blocking assignments. You block the guy that is going to hit the QB first. The DEDT was chipped and was NOT going to hit the QB before he threw. In addition, he was in his vision.

The LB was in full speed over to the QB. Not in the vision, from blindside. A horrible horrible mistake by the bust RB that can't make this logic decision. Not only does it result in INT but it can also get any QB injured rest of the season.

YPC does not define a good RB. He make tons of mistakes in catching the football on 3rd downs that stalls drives and can't block within the scheme.


Besides that, he does not run the football well at all when there is no room. Only provided a big big hole he will do a much better job than Timmy. Outside of that Timmy is a much better RB all over.
You have no clue who was gonna hit the QB first... and it/ wasn't an LB blitzing you knucklehead... it was a DB
 

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We'll see but it looks like we can run on them with DA in. That's why I say if we hold them first drive, we'll win. If we don't, we'll be too far behind and Whiz will abandon the run.

Beanie did miss a TD on that last drive if he cuts left he has a TD, instead he runs straight up the middle for 3-4 yards. Weird because he has better vision than Tim but he didn't on that play

Wiz just isn't disiplined enough to stick with the run. Very discouraging knowing the ineptitude of our QB's which makes me question the HC decision making.
 

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You have no clue who was gonna hit the QB first... and it/ wasn't an LB blitzing you knucklehead... it was a DB

DB only makes it 100 times worse. They are much faster than LB's, you know that right?

I have a clue who was going to hit the QB first because i can see it on the tape. The De was chipped and had to accelerate and was much much much slower than the blitzing DB that was much faster and unblocked.

You block the unblocked defender that will hit the QB first from the blindside.

The one QB can't see and the one that comes faster.

So you are wrong, completely wrong.
 

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They both suck. Cutting Leinart was the dumbest move that this team has ever made since it relocated to Arizona and that is saying a lot. This season is a debacle. Such a shame.
 

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DB only makes it 100 times worse. They are much faster than LB's, you know that right?

I have a clue who was going to hit the QB first because i can see it on the tape. The De was chipped and had to accelerate and was much much much slower than the blitzing DB that was much faster and unblocked.

You block the unblocked defender that will hit the QB first from the blindside.

The one QB can't see and the one that comes faster.

So you are wrong, completely wrong.

Tape? There is no tape. This is the 21st Century. I saw it too on digital video and you are wrong, completely wrong.
 

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Tape? There is no tape. This is the 21st Century. I saw it too on digital video and you are wrong, completely wrong.

Call it whatever you want. I have seen it couple of times. Tape, Video, whatever, it's the same. You are wrong. He blocked the wrong guy as he usually does.

You can write whatever you want mask that mistake, it doesn't help you. Max Hall was blinsided by an unblocked guy that Beanie should have blocked.

The INT is on Beanie all the way.
 

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Call it whatever you want. I have seen it couple of times. Tape, Video, whatever, it's the same. You are wrong. He blocked the wrong guy as he usually does.

You can write whatever you want mask that mistake, it doesn't help you. Max Hall was blinsided by an unblocked guy that Beanie should have blocked.

The INT is on Beanie all the way.

I say Patrick blew the block
 

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I say Patrick blew the block

Beaine had the option to block one of the two defenders. He chose the wrong one. If he decides to block the one coming much faster and from the blindside, there is room to make a throw and the INT is not there.

Thus, Beanie is to blame.

Max had one horrible throw and decision, besides that he had a very good game.
 

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Beaine had the option to block one of the two defenders. He chose the wrong one. If he decides to block the one coming much faster and from the blindside, there is room to make a throw and the INT is not there.

Thus, Beanie is to blame.

Thats your opinion.
Patrick released & should have stayed
 

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Thats your opinion.
Patrick released & should have stayed

But Beanie is there as safety to see those things. It's not like you ask a RB to block a guy before a play. You ask the RB to block the blitzing LB/DE and if there are two coming he needs to make the decision to take the one coming in faster and from the blindside. he needs to block as to make much more time for the QB.

That's not just my opinion, that'¨s the way the blocking schemes work and are most effective.

replay the play and you see Beanie looking at two free defenders and he has a choice to take. He does not take the blitzing DB, and even worse, the blitzer is from the blindside.

it's a huge mistake and there is no way you can misunderstand what happened here.
 
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Of course Max Hall still gives this team a much better chance at winning...

Watch this post backfire on me. :stick:
 

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Call it whatever you want. I have seen it couple of times. Tape, Video, whatever, it's the same. You are wrong. He blocked the wrong guy as he usually does.

You can write whatever you want mask that mistake, it doesn't help you. Max Hall was blinsided by an unblocked guy that Beanie should have blocked.

The INT is on Beanie all the way.

Wolf even blamed it on Patrick
 

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