Derek Anderson gives us a much better chance to win than Max Hall

[Early]

You know what else is for losers? Incompletions, stalled drives, not scoring, turnovers, and losing. All of which Hall has done non-stop since he's taken the reigns. Stats or no stats you can't honestly say that our offense has been good. You can't honestly say that if we had almost any other teams starting QB we'd be more efficient on offense?

You can ignore reality all you want. Hall has not played well. That's not an opinion it's a fact. 3-4 is a fact. 1-2 as a starter with the 1 win being thanks to the D is fact. The Bucs said you can ignore stats and get wins. We aren't getting wins. If you want to ignore stats then all you have left is losses. Hall is a loser by the Bucs coach mentality.

Hall did not play the whole game, so you can't say that he didn't get a win. And a win or not is due to the whole team, not just offense. So i have to disagree completely there. Bucs HC talked about the whole team and not their offense, so there is no logic in what you write. I mentioned that because stats make no sense to me and never will. They are interesting to look at and to make further thoughts from, but as a means to make conclusion? No way!

Hall was not responsible for the pick six. For the second, he shouldn't have throw the ball, but as Mitch also says, it was a horrible playcall.

He has been doing a very fine job done and it was crazy tat he got benched due to that one mistake, it was too early IMO. Sometimes we saw KW make couple of these without getting benched. You need to continue to believe in what you see from your QB in practice, Whis IMO gave up too early in this game on Hall, which does not mean at all he has less opinion on him overall down the road.

 

[conraddobler]

Hall did not play the whole game, so you can't say that he didn't get a win. And a win or not is due to the whole team, not just offense. So i have to disagree completely there. Bucs HC talked about the whole team and not their offense, so there is no logic in what you write. I mentioned that because stats make no sense to me and never will. They are interesting to look at and to make further thoughts from, but as a means to make conclusion? No way!

Hall was not responsible for the pick six. For the second, he shouldn't have throw the ball, but as Mitch also says, it was a horrible playcall.

He has been doing a very fine job done and it was crazy tat he got benched due to that one mistake, it was too early IMO. Sometimes we saw KW make couple of these without getting benched. You need to continue to believe in what you see from your QB in practice, Whis IMO gave up too early in this game on Hall, which does not mean at all he has less opinion on him overall down the road.

Actually I agree.

Whiz is flailing all around.

Hall was just being a rookie on that throw, they're going to get a couple of those at least, it's the transition from college, they think they can throw it and they can't, the key on those is if he ever tried it again.

Bad QB's make the same mistakes over and over, and pulling the kid there was the wrong thing to do even it did work if that makes any sense.

 

[DoTheDew]

Hall did not play the whole game, so you can't say that he didn't get a win. And a win or not is due to the whole team, not just offense. So i have to disagree completely there. Bucs HC talked about the whole team and not their offense, so there is no logic in what you write. I mentioned that because stats make no sense to me and never will. They are interesting to look at and to make further thoughts from, but as a means to make conclusion? No way!

Hall was not responsible for the pick six. For the second, he shouldn't have throw the ball, but as Mitch also says, it was a horrible playcall.

He has been doing a very fine job done and it was crazy tat he got benched due to that one mistake, it was too early IMO. Sometimes we saw KW make couple of these without getting benched. You need to continue to believe in what you see from your QB in practice, Whis IMO gave up too early in this game on Hall, which does not mean at all he has less opinion on him overall down the road.

The difference between Hall and KW is that KW would light it up when he wasn't making mistakes. Hall has yet to light it up. If Hall had had just one game where he dominated a defense, he'd have a much longer leash. Hall hasn't earned second chances. He wouldn't start on a single other team in the NFL. If you can honestly say that a QB that wouldn't start on any other team in the league is a good QB and deserves to be in games, then well, more power to you. Pass the bong.

 

[Cards_Campos]

It's hard to say, i'll have to look at the play again, i only saw it once, but i felt like the LB was in full speed from outside of the QB's vision for the slant. Great defenses hide the LB's in this fashion, making the cross from outside of QB's vision. Many great QB's have been lead to INT's and big hits like this, and you are not necessary a horrible QB based on this alone. I've seen Montana and Unitas making the same "mistake".. It's more a great defense IMHO... It's one of the most dangerous things for a QB when you have defenders coming across the field in full speed that you can't see and they time the play accuretly as Ruud did there.. LSH did had a chance to secure the ball as well but it was great defensive play.

And also just because he didn't had time it doesn't mean it was the wrong choice. How if that there was no other option and LSH was the only reasonable throw? Better then a sack later in such important situation.. Even risking an injury to reciever is ok then... It's hard to blame it on DA right away without further interpretation ..But if DA could see the LB, than i agree, it's a horrible decision

He is not a good QB tough, what he did in the end is absolutely inexcusable

Hall has still shown more than DA and if it's me, i start him again next week.

If Max Hall starts next week..Then Whiz looks worse than Wade Phillips. Max Hall is not a NFL QB. Keep hyping a guy WHO WASN'T DRAFTED FOR A REASON. Hands the size of a 3 yr old Midget. The arm strength of anorexic 11 yr old girl and the common sense of a coke dealer.

 

[PJ1]

The difference between Hall and KW is that KW would light it up when he wasn't making mistakes. Hall has yet to light it up. If Hall had had just one game where he dominated a defense, he'd have a much longer leash. Hall hasn't earned second chances. He wouldn't start on a single other team in the NFL. If you can honestly say that a QB that wouldn't start on any other team in the league is a good QB and deserves to be in games, then well, more power to you. Pass the bong.

Futher you don't compare Hall to KW in any way shape or form. Not the kids fault but he doesn't have the physical skills to be an NFL QB.

 

[Cards_Campos]

Max Hall should be 3rd string after this week. Skelton should move up...Hell Max Hall should be 4th string...and move Levi Brown up to 3rd string. Max Hall makes Plummer look like Montana and Plummer had some great games. Max Hall is lucky we beat the Saints because he stunk that game too. He cant throw in the NFL. ANd the funny thing is...He looked good in Training camp because he was throwing against OUR defense. We make ANYONE look good.

 

[Russ Smith]

2 thoughts on DA and then I'm watching the World Series.

1) It's like a horror movie, "don't go in there", they do, and they get an axe in the head. You just knew DA would screw up if we let him down there at the end.

2) It's like Gilligan's Island, every week they find a way off the island and then Gilligan does something that screws it up, DA is Gilligan.

And just because I can't say it enough, Dockett was horrible today, brutal, he made Blount today he had him at least 5 times for no gain or a loss and didn't get him down for less than a 3 yard gain on any of the plays. I don't care if he does get double teamed today he just played horribly.

 

[Early]

Actually I agree.

Whiz is flailing all around.

Hall was just being a rookie on that throw, they're going to get a couple of those at least, it's the transition from college, they think they can throw it and they can't, the key on those is if he ever tried it again.

Bad QB's make the same mistakes over and over, and pulling the kid there was the wrong thing to do even it did work if that makes any sense.

Exactly. You can't bench a developing QB, or no QB in fact, if they only make one bad throw and decision. If he keeps making the same mistake? You can consider it at least, then it's a problem. But this is the type of plays that the young guys learn from and let him have another play and show he has learned and not make the same mistake.

All that said, the playcall was horrible, nobody would make anything happen there. The best thing to do was to take a sack i guess.

 

[PJ1]

2 thoughts on DA and then I'm watching the World Series.

1) It's like a horror movie, "don't go in there", they do, and they get an axe in the head. You just knew DA would screw up if we let him down there at the end.

2) It's like Gilligan's Island, every week they find a way off the island and then Gilligan does something that screws it up, DA is Gilligan.

And just because I can't say it enough, Dockett was horrible today, brutal, he made Blount today he had him at least 5 times for no gain or a loss and didn't get him down for less than a 3 yard gain on any of the plays. I don't care if he does get double teamed today he just played horribly.

Horrible play by DA and bad call. So you wouldn't have gone to DA? Wouldn't have been as heartbreaking as it would have been a blowout IMO.

 

[Chris_Sanders]

You must be joking...Hall has had hell of a game besides one throw. The INT to Talib was very bad, bad decision to go in double coverage and very hard throw to make. That was horrible no doubt.

Besides that he has been awsome QB today, there is zero argument to that

I'm not sure it's good to take him out because of that one horrible throw. KW has been making those as well with good outcome in the end.

He had something good going on (Hall) and he should learn from that mistake he made

Hall was and is terrible.

 

[WarnerHOF]

If Max Hall starts next week than there will be basically zero reason to watch. We all know how it will play out, Hall will consistently throw the ball to the other team for fun and gets benched for DA who comes in to make a short comeback than falters.

 

[Chris_Sanders]

Max Hall updated stats:

41.0 rating 38/75 50.7% 360 yds 4.8 ypa 1 TD 5 INT 4 fum 2 fumL

Anyone gives us a better chance to win than Max Hall. Rookie or not, those numbers are straight pathetic.

Yep.

 

[Russ Smith]

Horrible play by DA and bad call. So you wouldn't have gone to DA? Wouldn't have been as heartbreaking as it would have been a blowout IMO.

NO I wanted Hall out too, he had to sit. But at that point in the game I would NOT let DA lose the game. I'd have 2 TE's in, Beanie in the backfield and if TB didn't honor the run I'd have run the football.

DA is only good when it's not obvious we're going to pass.

Putting DA in 4 and 5 wide sets is like russian roulette.

I'd start DA next week but with less passing.

 

[PJ1]

NO I wanted Hall out too, he had to sit. But at that point in the game I would NOT let DA lose the game. I'd have 2 TE's in, Beanie in the backfield and if TB didn't honor the run I'd have run the football.

DA is only good when it's not obvious we're going to pass.

Putting DA in 4 and 5 wide sets is like russian roulette.

I'd start DA next week but with less passing.

Agree with all of this. He has to be coached like he is a raw rookie. Protect him from himself. And us.

 

[PJ1]

If Max Hall starts next week than there will be basically zero reason to watch. We all know how it will play out, Hall will consistently throw the ball to the other team for fun and gets benched for DA who comes in to make a short comeback than falters.

Jared Allen will squash him like a bug.

 

[Cards_Campos]

NO I wanted Hall out too, he had to sit. But at that point in the game I would NOT let DA lose the game. I'd have 2 TE's in, Beanie in the backfield and if TB didn't honor the run I'd have run the football.

DA is only good when it's not obvious we're going to pass.

Putting DA in 4 and 5 wide sets is like russian roulette.

I'd start DA next week but with less passing.

Agreed...DA atleast gets the Defense to play both pass and run...with Max Hall in they Blitz and play 8 in the box knowing...1 on 1 coverage will be fine.

But Whiz still stinks...His play calling and his lack of taking any responsibility for this is appalling. We run the ball 4 times in 2 different situations we win this game. before half run 3 straight time from the 8 and kick the fg if no first. Run the ball 2 times and then a safe pass at the end of the game. Tie the game if NO td. Stupid that we not only passed...but we rushed every play like we were down 10 points!?!?!

 

[Cards_Campos]

Bad thing is...Minnesota has looked bad..But with us coming to town...We will pump up their season and they will probably drop 55 on us...and Make Favre look God Like..yet he can barely talk and walk now....

 

[Chris_Sanders]

Hall = 1 turnover every 10.7 pass attempts

Anderson = 1 turnover every 19 pass attempts

And we all consider Anderson to be turnover machine.

 

[Cards_Campos]

“I think other than (the interceptions) I was playing a decent half,” said Hall, who finished 8-for-16 for 71 yards. “Unfortunately those two throws just really turned the momentum.” This is what Hall said. You know ...that is like a pitcher saying...You know other than those 2 grand slams they hit...I pitched well.....8 for 16 for 71 yards is BAD if he didnt throw the INT's.....Cut him please...he is HORRIBLE.

 

[Cards_Campos]

Hall = 1 turnover every 10.7 pass attempts

Anderson = 1 turnover every 19 pass attempts

And we all consider Anderson to be turnover machine.

LOL and the TO's are 1 thing..what about his TO's go for pick 6's...and how lucky his fumbles haven't cost us more too.

 

[PJ1]

“I think other than (the interceptions) I was playing a decent half,” said Hall, who finished 8-for-16 for 71 yards. “Unfortunately those two throws just really turned the momentum.” This is what Hall said. You know ...that is like a pitcher saying...You know other than those 2 grand slams they hit...I pitched well.....8 for 16 for 71 yards is BAD if he didnt throw the INT's.....Cut him please...he is HORRIBLE.

Other than that Mrs. Lincoln, how did you enjoy the play.

 

[Chris_Sanders]

“I think other than (the interceptions) I was playing a decent half,” said Hall, who finished 8-for-16 for 71 yards. “Unfortunately those two throws just really turned the momentum.” This is what Hall said. You know ...that is like a pitcher saying...You know other than those 2 grand slams they hit...I pitched well.....8 for 16 for 71 yards is BAD if he didnt throw the INT's.....Cut him please...he is HORRIBLE.

Minimus believing that 4.8 YPA and a 50% completion percentage is "decent" is comedy.

 

[Bobcat]

Wiz just isn't disiplined enough to stick with the run. Very discouraging knowing the ineptitude of our QB's which makes me question the HC decision making.

He has only won with Mac, Green draft pics and fa's mostly. Whiz has been exposed this year for mostly all of his short comings. DG was cut as our Coach way to soon. If anything he should have been kicked upstairs in a VP position as Head of Player Personnel dealing with the NFL Draft and College Scouting

BOBCAT

 

[DieHardCardFan]

I did not read any other replies. DA is a jacka$$ and if he is the starter this season if completely worthless. That is my opinion. Even if we lose with Max at least he gets experience and the team finds out wht it has. DA is DA and everyone knows what that is. He is not the answer to anything but failure.

 

[Mulli]

I did not read any other replies. DA is a jacka$$ and if he is the starter this season if completely worthless. That is my opinion. Even if we lose with Max at least he gets experience and the team finds out wht it has. DA is DA and everyone knows what that is. He is not the answer to anything but failure.

The team should know all it needs to know about Max Hall.