Did Dallas do enough in the off-season to worry you?

[Amare32]

With a heathly Amare back I would feel confident against any team in the post season but will the additions of

Johnson
Buckner
Croshere
Johnson

make any real difference in the post season?

I know many Dallas fans think It is their year to win it all after choking last year against the Heat. Who could still be a threat but but they seem too old to be able to surprise everybody again.

 

[playstation]

i know this is a very cocky thing to say, but i really believe it:

IF the team is playing at the level it is capable of (good chemistry and gives a crap defensively), there is NO team that scares me. bring anyone on

for this reason, i don't care who we play on any given night. we're not playing AGAINST anybody, we're playing against ourselves.

it's a game of matchups, and against any team in the league, the matchups favor us. i look forward to the suns proving it

 

[az1965]

With a healthy Raja Bell, I have no doubt we could have taken Mavs to 7 games at least last year.

Mavs just don't scare me for whatever reason as much as Spurs. Soft maybe?

 

[jbeecham]

The Mavs are playing really well right now. They're on a 9-10 game win streak and a lot of those came without Josh Howard. If the Suns are healthy and playing well, then I think the Suns can win a 7 game series against them, but I don't think it'll be easy.

 

[nowagimp]

With a heathly Amare back I would feel confident against any team in the post season but will the additions of

Johnson
Buckner
Croshere
Johnson

make any real difference in the post season?

I know many Dallas fans think It is their year to win it all after choking last year against the Heat. Who could still be a threat but but they seem too old to be able to surprise everybody again.

With a healthy Amare, the Mavericks do not look like they can matchup inside. If they had problems with Diaw, how about Diaw AND Amare? I also like the depth of the frontcourt with KT coming off the bench, something the mavs took advantage of last year when Dirk got alot of touch fouls on TT, Marion. Amare's newfound defensive smarts( a KT benefit?), will also make the help D better on those drives to the hoop. I think that the teams that match up best with the suns are the Lakers and the Jazz, not the spurs or the Mavs. The Warriors actually scare me more than the Mavs as we do not know how they will gell with newcomers like Biedrins and Monte Ellis and they have great team speed, perhaps better than the suns.

 

[arwillan]

speed better than the suns? blasphemy.

im worried about the mavs simply because they are a solid team with playmakers and a flawless chemistry. not to say that we arent the same, but under pressure we havent been able to beat them. look at last year, we lost 4-2 to them in the post season because we blew two leads. if we wouldnt have choked, suns go up 4-2 and beat the heat. the jazz dont worry me nor do the lakers. we beat the jazz, but beat ourselves in the process. as for the lakers, kobe and lamaar odom can be guarded this season by amare and the ever-improving raja bell which wasnt necessarily true last year.

PS Raja throwing Kobe to the floor was class-a defense if ive ever seen it

 

[slinslin]

Dallas looks worse than last year, I am not worried. Look at our roster we shouldn't worry about anyone, talentwise we have by far the best team and as long as we can stay healthy there is no excuse to lose a playoff series against anyone.

 

[cly2tw]

Dallas lacks good team offense. they have many talented and athletic individuals across the board. With full strength, we should have little problem to beat them like Miami did last season.

 

[SO91]

With both teams healthy, it would be a close series, but the suns would ultimately take it. Dallas is not winning a championship this year. Who was the last runner up to win the title the following year? Anybody knows?

 

[nowagimp]

speed better than the suns? blasphemy.

im worried about the mavs simply because they are a solid team with playmakers and a flawless chemistry. not to say that we arent the same, but under pressure we havent been able to beat them. look at last year, we lost 4-2 to them in the post season because we blew two leads. if we wouldnt have choked, suns go up 4-2 and beat the heat. the jazz dont worry me nor do the lakers. we beat the jazz, but beat ourselves in the process. as for the lakers, kobe and lamaar odom can be guarded this season by amare and the ever-improving raja bell which wasnt necessarily true last year.

Amare had his way with the mavs before his injury, the suns eliminated the mavs year before last in the playoffs. The mavs weakness is the soft front line. Nobody on that team has the speed and size to guard Amare. The warriors however have Biedrins, Murphy, Diogu and Foyle at the 4/5. I like Biedrins as a defender, and he rebounds very well making the fast group of Monta Ellis, Pietrus, Richardson, and Baron Davis very dangeous on the break. They beat Utah a few days ago, outrebounded them totally in the 4th quarter. Don Nelson also scares me as I think he is underrated as a coach.

 

[dreamcastrocks]

With a heathly Amare back I would feel confident against any team in the post season but will the additions of

Johnson
Buckner
Croshere
Johnson

make any real difference in the post season?

I know many Dallas fans think It is their year to win it all after choking last year against the Heat. Who could still be a threat but but they seem too old to be able to surprise everybody again.

Honestly, I believe their moves are lateral at best. I don't think that they are any better than last year.

 

[Ciani]

speed better than the suns? blasphemy.

Actually they looked faster then the Suns in the game between the two teams. They scored more fast break points as well.

 

[greensborohill]

Play some defense before you star all the gypsy talk mojo about winning it all. It's been proven time and again that teams that can get stops are the ones that ultimately win it all. And as of the past three years, I've yet to see anything ressembling defense from the Suns.

You guys are a funny bunch, a couple weeks ago you were crying and sniffling like babies. Now look at you "we shouldn't be affraid of anyone", I got news for you, nobody with a legit title chance is affraid of the Suns because they know they can get any shot they want at any time. Hell, even your best defender is now a revolving door.

 

[jbeecham]

Play some defense before you star all the gypsy talk mojo about winning it all. It's been proven time and again that teams that can get stops are the ones that ultimately win it all. And as of the past three years, I've yet to see anything ressembling defense from the Suns.

You guys are a funny bunch, a couple weeks ago you were crying and sniffling like babies. Now look at you "we shouldn't be affraid of anyone", I got news for you, nobody with a legit title chance is affraid of the Suns because they know they can get any shot they want at any time. Hell, even your best defender is now a revolving door.

This is funny coming from a Mavs fan! All last year the Mavs talked about being a better defensive team and I never saw it. Hell, we had double digit leads in every playoff game. If we didn't have injuries to 3 starters (which wore out the rest of the team) then we wouldn't have folded in the 2nd half of those games.

That being said, I think a lot of people are underestimating the Mavs. They've got a solid team and while their offseason moves may have been lateral moves (or possibly made the bench depth worse), their starters have improved. Devin Harris, Josh Howard & Desaga Diop should all be better this year. I think we can beat them in a 7 game series if we're healthy, but really it could go either way just depending on who's shooting the ball better.

 

[nowagimp]

Play some defense before you star all the gypsy talk mojo about winning it all. It's been proven time and again that teams that can get stops are the ones that ultimately win it all. And as of the past three years, I've yet to see anything ressembling defense from the Suns.

You guys are a funny bunch, a couple weeks ago you were crying and sniffling like babies. Now look at you "we shouldn't be affraid of anyone", I got news for you, nobody with a legit title chance is affraid of the Suns because they know they can get any shot they want at any time. Hell, even your best defender is now a revolving door.

Actually the Mavs are barely improved on defense themselves on points per possession since the Nelson era. They replaced Nash with Terry(no gain on D, a minus), and Finley with Stack(no gain). What the Mavs have going for them is depth, which will be most useful against teams that are not deep, like the spurs. We'll see how a mavs defense that surrenders 34 points to Diaw in the playoffs works against Amare AND Diaw. You must be pole smoking that special cuban cigar if you think Dampier, Croshere, and/or Diop can guard Diaw AND Amare.

 

[CaptainInsano]

Play some defense before you star all the gypsy talk mojo about winning it all. It's been proven time and again that teams that can get stops are the ones that ultimately win it all. And as of the past three years, I've yet to see anything ressembling defense from the Suns.

You guys are a funny bunch, a couple weeks ago you were crying and sniffling like babies. Now look at you "we shouldn't be affraid of anyone", I got news for you, nobody with a legit title chance is affraid of the Suns because they know they can get any shot they want at any time. Hell, even your best defender is now a revolving door.

Who would have thought, look at how cocky the mavs fan who was "crying" WITH US during both our respective losing streaks is now Mr. Big Balls hooting about defense as if that is what wins the mavs games. You know what a hypocrite and fairweather fan is by chance?

Your posts used to have a little percent of them worth reading but now are just complete garbage (seriously). I think im putting you on ignore and you are the first. Im talking I didn't mute people like hoopy and the crazy laker fans (not talking about sensible people like D-Dogg etc) and yet you disgust me enough that I think I would be losing nothing muting you.

I have nothing against the bigtime lakers or mavericks etc pole suckers but what I cannot stand is a hypocritical superfan who decides he will switch stances and come to the suns board beating his chest and hollaring like an angry gorilla but only AFTER his team goes on a win streak.

Ignored.

 

[JWF]

I have to agree with alot of people here. I do think the Mavs are a solid team, but they seem to be sacrificing a bit to much offensively for defense lately.

An obvious breakdown of how this current team could help over last year series IMO....

KT gives us more fouls to use on Diop and Dampier, and more rebouding. Amare obviously gives us post player who can not only score and rebound, but get diop and dampier into foul trouble which we sorely lacked. An even better Barbosa, hopefully improved Banks, and up to speed Rose will give us a slasher presence at guard off the bench to help wear down Terry and Hester and help Nash. A healthy Bell will obviously help to slow down Howard, and keep him from collapsing on defense. Diaw should be able to do what he did last year, and should provide further problems for Diop, Dampier, and Howard.

I think it would still be a close series, but if this teams stays healthy and keep improving on defense, they have the ability to beat the Mavs.

 

[CaptainInsano]

The mavs showed that they can still beat the spurs, but the problem is the mavs were always chokers when they got to the WCF or finals. There was really no logical reason that explained to me why they lost to miami. You can complain about the officials and d-wade all you want but one player shouldn't cause a team as deep as the mavs to crumple.

The mavs just aren't a strong enough team to bring any gaurentees at title success. Unfortunately unless the suns start to go on a tear we have the same problem. If amare though starts to round out well and diaw doesn't go back into a shell every other game then it is a different story, we will probably stomp dallas in 6 games.

 

[Amare32]

Looks like someone is crying to mommy and daddy

http://p073.ezboard.com/fdallasbasketballdotcomfrm2.showMessage?topicID=26626.topic

 

[CaptainInsano]

Looks like someone is crying to mommy and daddy

http://p073.ezboard.com/fdallasbasketballdotcomfrm2.showMessage?topicID=26626.topic

Funny how he makes sure to let them know they are being trolls if they head over here, unless of course he is stupid enough to actually be calling us trolls when he is the one trying to link people here to come over and, guess what, troll. Now that would be an amazing level of stupidity right there.

There are many other phx boards where he can argue with 13 year olds and other odd people for example the azcentral boards but he makes a point at actually trying to be annoying and specifically target these boards.

That, of course, makes us the trolls right!

*edit:
LOL at the other guys there who almost seem hurt that they were banned. What do they not understand about this board not dealing with people from other teams bs, PERIOD. If they want a place to act like imbeciles then there are many other suns boards.

 

[Hoopy Dunkalot]

Where do I start??

Oh no, look out - a dissenting opinion. Quick hit the ban button. That's what you guys do here right??

Anyway, I don't even know where to begin with this vomit.

1. Amare v. 1.0 is gone. He's not coming back. The Suns are now saddled with his mega-superstar contract and no mega-superstar to go with it. He's lost more than a step and plays great for 10 of his 24 minutes per night. Damp, Diop, and Benga will have little problems containing Amare v. 2.0 with 18 fouls.

2. Cuban was right about Nash. Year 3 and the problems are just beginning. But hey, you can sandbag him for the playoffs where he won't provide any defense.

3. Are you so scared of Dallas that you actually think GSW is better? Do any of you even watch basketball or do you just daydream over your posters of Amare? Nelson WILL NOT have his team play defense. Defense wins championships. GSW is cannon fodder for their first round opponent.

4. Dallas has had a MAJOR improvement over the past few years defensively. So much in fact, that when the uptempo game is discussed by the media, they don't even credit Dallas for reintroducing it to the L over 6 years ago. They seem to think the Suns did it when Nash arrived. Sad. We gave up on it after a few 2nd round exits. It will take a a year or so, but the Suns will drop it too. The smoke and mirrors game that is high-octane offense is to hide defensive deficiencies. Good luck with all that.

5. And last, if you can beat these Mavs in a 7 game series the time to do it was last June. BUT, you didn't make it past 6 games. Ah nuts.

There is so much more to rant about, but I'll save for when my ban is lifted.

Love and Kisses,
Dallas

 

[Chris_Sanders]

This thread is treading towards Smack Shack territory. Welcome back Hoopy. Hopefully this time you will talk more hoops and troll less.

 

[Ubermench]

Dallas is working in a second unit with the following new players:

Buckner
Johnson
George
Croshere
Ager
Mensah-Bonsu
Barea

It will take them awhile to get their defensive rotations tightened, but Dallas' new players are much better individual defenders than last year's guys. They will come around, and they already are starting to.

It is already evident that this year's version of the Mavs are better than last seasons when they are firing on all cylinders. Devin Harris is improving by leaps and bounds every game, Dampier is playing like an all-star, Diop's rebounding has improved and he's playing defense as well as he ever has, and to top it all off Dirk is even better this season. The Mavs arent even close to their peak.

 

[Chris_Sanders]

When the dust is settled, I am certain that Dallas and Phoenix will both be in the playoffs and neither will be scared of the other. Chest beating in November is kind of premature.

 

[Hoopy Dunkalot]

When the dust is settled, I am certain that Dallas and Phoenix will both be in the playoffs and neither will be scared of the other. Chest beating in November is kind of premature.

Thanks for the vote of confidence Chris. Yes they will both be there and Dallas defense will prevail!!

Please...resume your regular Dallas bashing.