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Johnson, who played at Penn State, was expected to arrive in
Phoenix Tuesday morning and take a physical. If the details of the deal are wrapped up in time, he could be on the field when the team practices at 3 p.m. tomorrow.

Johnson could play an integral role this year for the Cardinals, who allowed their top three receivers from last year to leave via free agency. Jason McAddley and Larry Foster are the current starters, but Johnson and Bryan Gilmore should push them. Anquan Boldin, the second-round pick, is also expected to play a lot.

The 6-foot-2, 214-pound Johnson led Penn State in receptions the past two seasons and excelled as a punt returner. He'll also contend for that job with the Cardinals.



Is Larry Foster really the starter in training camp?

I thought the reason why the Cardinals got him, was for special teams!! What does everyone think about this....Or am i reading to much into this?
 

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I think thats a case of misinformation IMO!

per everyone thats been at camp i believe they have said that Gilmore and Mcaddley have been lining up as the starters!
 

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Originally posted by Shane H
I think thats a case of misinformation IMO!

per everyone thats been at camp i believe they have said that Gilmore and Mcaddley have been lining up as the starters!

No, that's not what Jurecki has said.

Jurecki repeatedly said that Foster was a starter, but things could and probably will change.
 

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Originally posted by Krangthebrain
No, that's not what Jurecki has said.

Jurecki repeatedly said that Foster was a starter, but things could and probably will change.

Yes he was saying that Gilmore is falling farther behind.
 

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Originally posted by EndZone
Yes he was saying that Gilmore is falling farther behind.

Now thats why I think hes an idiot!

Gilmore is Sullys prized pupal and according to everyone BUT JURECKI he is having an absolutely supreb camp! In fact it was said by many the first 2 days that he looked light years ahead of the other WRs!

So this just doesnt compute to me?????
 

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foster is a starter..I think if there are 2 receivers in the starting lineup they are foster and mcaddley..on three receiver sets it has been foster, mcaddley and either gilmore or boldin. It could be a function of the fact that foster has been in the league longer than the other guys and for the 1st couple of practices he starts..

This will change over the next 3 weeks..if a guy has a couple of bad days he is moved down..and if they have a couple of good days - they move up..I could have sworn yesterday that I saw jake soliday running as the 3rd receiver - but to be honest they run about every combination possible. At times you could see foster, mcaddley and a rookie undrafted free agent running with preston parsons as the qb...for now they seem to be just trying to get guys reps and are not really focusing on what order they are in. Marquis walker seemed to be running 3rd of 4th team one day..then it appeared he was with the 2nd team another day.

Honestly..I think by now jerry has an idea of who he likes and who is not going to make it...but the picture will probably not be clear to the casual observer until later in training camp.

What jurecki reports is what he hears from others (players, coaches and other media members). During the morning practices he is on the air and really unable to watch..and for the afternoon practice many of the media guys hang out and are not watching every play with their undivided unattention...so I am speculating that when jurecki says something like gilmore is falling behind - he must have heard this from a reliable source - it is not something he gained from watching every snap in practice (skorp follows practice alot more closely than many of the media guys - especially the tv guys who show up at the end of practice for interviews)
 

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I would put very little weight on who's the starter at WR right now. No position is going to fluctuate more in camp, and these moves are probably more to get guys reps at different spots more than anything else. They have to try as much as the can to see what the best lineup is Sept. 7th.
 

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I agree that withthis many wr in camp things will change, but Sully brought Foster over for a reason-He likes him, likes his potential.

Yes, Foster is the starter right now but things change daily in camp!
 

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Originally posted by LVCARDFREAK


Yes, Foster is the starter right now but things change daily in camp!

Exactly. That's what I said in my first post on this thread.

According to Jurecki, McAddley seems to have a bit of an attitude problem. Acting a bit like David frickin' Boston...
 

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Originally posted by Krangthebrain
Exactly. That's what I said in my first post on this thread.

According to Jurecki, McAddley seems to have a bit of an attitude problem. Acting a bit like David frickin' Boston...

Thats the first Ive heard of that too Hmmmmm?
 

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Originally posted by Krangthebrain
Exactly. That's what I said in my first post on this thread.

According to Jurecki, McAddley seems to have a bit of an attitude problem. Acting a bit like David frickin' Boston...

Really? That's pretty laughable if true. He's still got a lot to prove.

I still think he'll be our #1 big play guy this year. He showed he could get open deep last year, Plummer just never got the ball to him.

Did Jurecki back that up with anything Krang?
 

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Originally posted by Krangthebrain
According to Jurecki, McAddley seems to have a bit of an attitude problem. Acting a bit like David frickin' Boston...


They were both talking about that yesterday afternoon.
As long as he runs his route, catches the ball, turns up field and doesn't fumble, blah, blah, blah.
I'd rather not see it, but it's early still.
Isn't this what Emmitt's for (partially)?
 

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that is really strange regarding mcaddley..this is from a guy who had very few passes during his college career due to the offense they ran (alabama)...and played very little until our top 3 receivers went down...having an marginal attitude is bad enough...but having an attitude and little production is the worst!
 

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Originally posted by ajcardfan
Really? That's pretty laughable if true. He's still got a lot to prove.

I still think he'll be our #1 big play guy this year. He showed he could get open deep last year, Plummer just never got the ball to him.

Did Jurecki back that up with anything Krang?

Everything I have seen in person and read about Mcaddley has never even shown this type of behavior whatsoever. Im not a big Jurecki fan because he has been known to spew garbage so I will take it with a grain of salt.

Mcaddley has always seemed very humble especially when he talks about the chance he has been given!
 

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Originally posted by Krangthebrain
Exactly. That's what I said in my first post on this thread.

According to Jurecki, McAddley seems to have a bit of an attitude problem. Acting a bit like David frickin' Boston...
??? you have got to be kidding me...

He is the WR I am most excited about, he better not have an attitude!
 

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From Skkorp's write-ups - Gilmore, McAddley and Boldin have looked good/drawn the most praise.

2 or 3 times he's described Foster as being a consistent pass catcher, but he's never mentioned Foster making any plays as a receiver worth making special mention of.

Jim's also pointed out that Foster has been muffing more than his share of punts - and Jim and I both agree that, for Foster to make the team (probably at #5 or #6) he'll have to double in a return role. (i.e. if he can't produce as a punt returner, his chances of sticking - let alone starting - become less and less likely).

Regarding McAddley's attitude, Skkorp alluded to (and the AZR confirmed) that McAddley had been been demoted to the second unit early in camp, but bounced back to have at least a couple of consecutively excellent days. (So maybe the "attitude" was addressed by the demotion and, as such, is history).

I respect Jurecki's access to inside info. But I respect Skkorp's eyeballs more.

Question is: Does Jurecki "know something?" Or is he just assuming that Foster's the starter for now?
 
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Originally posted by JeffGollin


Jim's also pointed out that Foster has been muffing more than his share of punts - and Jim and I both agree that, for Foster to make the team (probably at #5 or #6) he'll have to double in a return role. (i.e. if he can't produce as a punt returner, his chances of sticking - let alone starting - become less and less likely).


I don't think there's ever been any doubt since April that Johnson is penciled in as punt returner. Foster will have to make an impact on special teams, but it won't be as a punt reutrner, he never had a chance. IMO, of course.
 

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Originally posted by JeffGollin
2 or 3 times he's described Foster as being a consistent pass catcher, but he's never mentioned Foster making any plays as a receiver worth making special mention of.

Personally, I'd rather have a WR who consistently made the play that he was supposed to make, and made fewer "miracle" catches. What we're been lacking in the WR corps is consistency, and if Foster can bring that, all the better.
 

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Originally posted by Shane H
I think thats a case of misinformation IMO!

per everyone thats been at camp i believe they have said that Gilmore and Mcaddley have been lining up as the starters!

Yeah I heard the same about Gilmore and Mcaddley although I think I have heard McAddley has been dropping alot in camp.

Johnson is going to be a key component this season. I think his getting the contract thing done quickly has got to put the fear inbto the bubble guys...Gilmore Boldin Johnson and Mcaddley. After that maybe one more WR and a rookie for the practice squad.
 

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Originally posted by kerouac9
Personally, I'd rather have a WR who consistently made the play that he was supposed to make, and made fewer "miracle" catches. What we're been lacking in the WR corps is consistency, and if Foster can bring that, all the better.

You took the words right out of my mouth. Who cares if you dont make great plays as long as you can catch the ball. didn't we have a case of the dropsies last year? Im sure no one wants that. Give me a guy with good hands over a speedster anyday.
 

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the 3 days I was in camp(Sat thru Mon) Gilmore looked to be the
most consistant and can run like the wind. Boldin and McAddley
looked about the same though Boldin appears to have good feet
and quicker cutting ability. I think our receivers will be better
than expected.
 

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McAddley's tude,
Isn't this the same guy that Mac and Sullivan fell in love with at the Senior Bowl because of his coachability? If our coaches were so wrong about that we have more problems than one player with a bad attitude. Dollars to donuts there is no problem, just someone spreading a falsehood.

Shuesters
 

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Frankly I do not care what the name of the starting receivers are. Whoever can get it done and put us in a position to win is fine with me!
 

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THERE IS A VERY FINE LINE BETWEEN ATTITUDE AND CONFIDENCE. THIS IS ONLY JURECKI'S PERCEPTION, NOT GOSPEL.
 

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Originally posted by Sack Daddy
THERE IS A VERY FINE LINE BETWEEN ATTITUDE AND CONFIDENCE. THIS IS ONLY JURECKI'S PERCEPTION, NOT GOSPEL.

Until I hear details about it from more than one source, I'm taking Jurecki's report on McAddley's "attitude" problem with a boulder of salt.
 
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