Did the Suns release Goodwin?

[Mainstreet]

It would not surprise me if Archie Goodwin becomes a late bloomer like former Suns draft pick Stephen Jackson who played overseas before developing his game. He had a long NBA career.

 

[JCSunsfan]

I think some of this and some of what Slinslin said. The Suns are probably trying to save some money and also give Archie a chance to sign with another NBA team or play overseas. Archie was not going to get an opportunity to play with the Suns. However, he might have been used in a trade to make salaries work.

The puzzler for me was keeping John Jenkins who will make $1.05 million. Maybe I'm missing something. I like that the Suns kept Derrick Jones Jr. who has a chance to develop at the forward position. He has tremendous athletic talent.

Jones Jr. has a bit more chance of getting minutes than Archie. Jenkins has always been thought of very highly.

I think it is sad because Goodwin could have and still could develop into a great player but the Suns never allowed him to develop by playing on the court in actual games. You can only develop so much by just practice.

I disagree. He did not earn the time. Other players got the time ahead of him because they earned it.

 

[JCSunsfan]

It would not surprise me if Archie Goodwin becomes a late bloomer like former Suns draft pick Stephen Jackson who played overseas before developing his game. He had a long NBA career.

It would absolutely shock me. He might go overseas and develop some and then come back in some sort of Sonny Weems role, but I doubt he will develop into a solid NBA rotation player.

 

[Mainstreet]

Jones Jr. has a bit more chance of getting minutes than Archie. Jenkins has always been thought of very highly.

Jones Jr. is a young project player with tremendous athletic talent much like Archie when he was drafted by the Suns. It would be terrific if he developed. The Suns were set at guard. Jones Jr. should get plenty of playing time in the D-League.

It is interesting to note Jenkins is 25 years old and Goodwin is still only 22 yet we are still hoping Jenkins can develop. I think the Suns let Archie go so he can find another team with a better opportunity to play. It is best for both parties at the time but I think the Suns will come to regret it over the long term.

 

[Mainstreet]

It would absolutely shock me. He might go overseas and develop some and then come back in some sort of Sonny Weems role, but I doubt he will develop into a solid NBA rotation player.

I think otherwise about Archie but only time will tell.

 

[JCSunsfan]

Jones Jr. is a young project player with tremendous athletic talent much like Archie when he was drafted by the Suns. It would be terrific if he developed. The Suns were set at guard. Jones Jr. should get plenty of playing time in the D-League.

It is interesting to note Jenkins is 25 years old and Goodwin is still only 22 yet we are still hoping Jenkins can develop. I think the Suns let Archie go so he can find another team with a better opportunity to play. It is best for both parties at the time but I think the Suns will come to regret it over the long term.

I am not so sure they are hoping that Jenkins will develop. He is already what they are looking for in a guard. He is a two that plays passable defense, has size, and shoots over 40% from the 3.

As far as Archie goes, even in his best moments, he did not do what coaches asked. That game winner last year, where the final shot was set up for Len (whether or not you like that idea is beside the point) and Archie decided he wasn't doing it even before the play started. He is just not coachable. He needed to be gone.

 

[Chaplin]

Jones Jr. is a young project player with tremendous athletic talent much like Archie when he was drafted by the Suns. It would be terrific if he developed. The Suns were set at guard. Jones Jr. should get plenty of playing time in the D-League.

It is interesting to note Jenkins is 25 years old and Goodwin is still only 22 yet we are still hoping Jenkins can develop. I think the Suns let Archie go so he can find another team with a better opportunity to play. It is best for both parties at the time but I think the Suns will come to regret it over the long term.

Completely disagree with the last part. I think it is the best for both parties, but there is no way we'll regret letting him go.

 

[Suns_fan69]

They probably won't admit it but my guess is his attitude didn't help either. He always came off as a bit entitled and always had a bit of a scowl to him.

 

[SweetD]

He can now go join one of his brothers in the Morri. There where a few comments from coach and Ryan about him needing to mature on and off the court. Wish him the best but don't think the team will miss him.

 

[sunsfan88]

As far as Archie goes, even in his best moments, he did not do what coaches asked. That game winner last year, where the final shot was set up for Len (whether or not you like that idea is beside the point) and Archie decided he wasn't doing it even before the play started. He is just not coachable. He needed to be gone.

I remember that, it was when the play was designed for Alex Len to shoot a 3 for the final play of the game.

So glad Hornacek is no longer here.

 

[Hoop Head]

I remember that, it was when the play was designed for Alex Len to shoot a 3 for the final play of the game.

So glad Hornacek is no longer here.

That was a horrible play but Goodwin showed his true colors by refusing to run the play and admitting to it in all of the post game interviews. It's one thing for a superstar or veteran to run an audible but Goodwin was basically a rookie, only getting minutes because of our injury depleted roster.

 

[hcsilla]

Good move by the Suns.

They kept the player with more potential in Jones while signing him to a very cap-friendly contract and the roster flexibility by delaying the guarantee-deadline of Jenkins' contract.

 

[JCSunsfan]

Did anyone claim Archie off waivers? If not, we know his value to other GM's.

 

[JerkFace]

Did anyone claim Archie off waivers? If not, we know his value to other GM's.

We will find out at 5pm est.

 

[Ronin]

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[JCSunsfan]

So, now we know why they could not trade him. No team was even willing to cut an end-of-the-bench player to claim Archie. His market value is now clear.

 

[leclerc]

Wish they would sign Jenkins and not keep stringing him along. Hopefully there is a verbal agreement.

 

[sunsfan88]

Goodwin wasn't out of work very long...hardly two weeks if that

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[Errntknght]

Where did Archie land... I can't load your tweet...

 

[sunsfan88]

Pelicans.

 

[Mainstreet]

Archie Goodwin is reportedly finalizing a 2 year deal to sign with the Pelicans. The Pelicans have a depleted backcourt and have been forced to waive Lance Stephenson to clear a roster spot.

http://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/...-injured-lance-stephenson-sign-archie-goodwin

 

[sunsfan88]

Goodwin on what he brings to an NBA team: “Offensively, I attack. I get to the free throw line, get into the lane and make plays. Defensively is where I’m going to have to step it up a lot. This year, I really want to be a two-way player. I feel like offensively, we’ve got (Anthony Davis) and plenty of scoring. But defensively is something I can really contribute to.”

http://www.nba.com/pelicans/news/pe...ational-archie-goodwin-may-need-be-ready-play

He's certainly got the right attitude to try and make this work.

 

[leclerc]

Will be interesting to see how many minutes he gets and how long he sticks. I'd be surprised if he's still in the league in two years.

 

[3rdside]

Seeing as:

Diaw got a title
Marion got a title
Barbosa got a title
Frye got a title
Kerr got a title..

Call me a cynic but I suspect Goodwin could go okay.



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[3rdside]

*jk in a way, I didn't rate goodwin, but that seems to be an uncomfortably large list above


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