Did the Suns release Goodwin?

[Superbone]

I give up. I don't get it. Does he get his nutrition from the golden arches?

Or is that a play on, "Aren't choo glad you asked?"

You did get it. It's like a bad knock knock joke.

 

[Chaplin]

I'm glad Archie is back with the Suns in some respect.

Go Archie. I still believe.

Is this a serious post?

 

[BC867]

You did get it. It's like a bad knock knock joke.

Hey, I have a great Knock Knock joke. Start it out ...

"Knock Knock"
"Who's There?"
"..............uh"

Try it on someone. Watch their reaction.

 

[JCSunsfan]

I'm glad Archie is back with the Suns in some respect.

Go Archie. I still believe.

i dont. No way he breaks into this talented young line up.

 

[Superbone]

i dont. No way he breaks into this talented young line up.

Yeah, he had plenty of time to work on his shooting but he never got much better.

 

[Mainstreet]

Is this a serious post?

i dont. No way he breaks into this talented young line up.

I still believe Archie Goodwin has a future in the NBA, maybe not with the Suns but somewhere. He still needs to find his niche. Archie has tremendous athleticism and he is still only 23.

His stats are not as terrible as some would believe.

https://www.basketball-reference.com/players/g/goodwar01.html

 

[Phrazbit]

I still believe Archie Goodwin has a future in the NBA, maybe not with the Suns but somewhere. He still needs to find his niche. Archie has tremendous athleticism and he is still only 23.

His stats are not as terrible as some would believe.

https://www.basketball-reference.com/players/g/goodwar01.html

They're pretty terrible. If you're a point guard and you cannot pass (a stunning 206 assists vs 206 turnovers in his career), you cannot shoot (a career 23% shooter from the outside) and you're a putrid defender... how do you make it in this league?

His baseline stats are bad, his metric stats are absolutely wretched. Personally, I'd be surprised if he logged another 200 more minutes in his entire NBA career... and I wouldn't be surprised if he never logged another minute in real competition again. The more you scroll down that page the worse the numbers are. He is a below 30% shooter from beyond THREE FEET for his career.

He is destined to put up 35 on 30 shots in China.

 

[Hoop Head]

He'll probably get another 10 day contract from someone, this year and maybe next also, but I'd be surprised to see more than that from him. He simply hasn't improved since he's been drafted and that is on him.

 

[devilalum]

I'm glad Archie is back with the Suns in some respect.

Go Archie. I still believe.

Are you serious Clark?


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[Mainstreet]

Are you serious Clark?

When you see Archie's sled come down your chimney you will know I'm serious.

 

[Mainstreet]

They're pretty terrible. If you're a point guard and you cannot pass (a stunning 206 assists vs 206 turnovers in his career), you cannot shoot (a career 23% shooter from the outside) and you're a putrid defender... how do you make it in this league?

His baseline stats are bad, his metric stats are absolutely wretched. Personally, I'd be surprised if he logged another 200 more minutes in his entire NBA career... and I wouldn't be surprised if he never logged another minute in real competition again. The more you scroll down that page the worse the numbers are. He is a below 30% shooter from beyond THREE FEET for his career.

He is destined to put up 35 on 30 shots in China.

We can agree, Archie is not a PG. He will have to find another role if he is going to make it in the NBA.

 

[Hoop Head]

We can agree, Archie is not a PG. He will have to find another role if he is going to make it in the NBA.

What role do you envision he'll play because he can't pass and he can't shoot. He's not a good defender either. So there really isn't much for him left to do at his size.

 

[Mainstreet]

What role do you envision he'll play because he can't pass and he can't shoot. He's not a good defender either. So there really isn't much for him left to do at his size.

This is a good question and I do not have the answer.

However, I've watched a lot of NBA prospects over the years fail but something about Archie still intrigues me. For example, I quickly gave up on Kendall Marshall and Tyler Ennis and never looked back.

Archie knows how to score but he needs to play good defense and develop some form of an outside shot to make it. I guess as long as Archie puts in the work, I will keep up the hope. Perhaps playing in China or overseas might help him.

 

[Chaplin]

This is a good question and I do not have the answer.

However, I've watched a lot of NBA prospects over the years fail but something about Archie still intrigues me. For example, I quickly gave up on Kendall Marshall and Tyler Ennis and never looked back.

Archie knows how to score but he needs to play good defense and develop some form of an outside shot to make it. I guess as long as Archie puts in the work, I will keep up the hope. Perhaps playing in China or overseas might help him.

He was drafted in 2013. How long before you finally admit he's a bust?

 

[Mainstreet]

He was drafted in 2013. How long before you finally admit he's a bust?

Obviously it's gone to kick Goodwin mode.

When I say so.

 

[Hoop Head]

He was drafted in 2013. How long before you finally admit he's a bust?

I don't think he's a bust but that's only because he was selected 29th overall. Not much is expected of players drafted that late anyways so he's just a never was.

 

[Superbone]

They're pretty terrible. If you're a point guard and you cannot pass (a stunning 206 assists vs 206 turnovers in his career), you cannot shoot (a career 23% shooter from the outside) and you're a putrid defender... how do you make it in this league?

His baseline stats are bad, his metric stats are absolutely wretched. Personally, I'd be surprised if he logged another 200 more minutes in his entire NBA career... and I wouldn't be surprised if he never logged another minute in real competition again. The more you scroll down that page the worse the numbers are. He is a below 30% shooter from beyond THREE FEET for his career.

He is destined to put up 35 on 30 shots in China.

Other than that, he's pretty good. How about that athleticism?

 

[Folster]

Oh man, I missed his return to NAZ. He's like a 4A player in baseball. Too good for AAA but not good enough for the majors. It's a shame I really liked him and had high hopes for him. His only hope now is to develop a 3 pointer and become a 3D guy or go tear up Europe.