Do You Pull The Trigger On Randy Gregory If He Falls To Cards?

[BW52]

I stated young people make mistakes. You countered with ' If he wasn't smart enough to not make this mistake, he shouldn't be on this team,' To which I mentioned a player on this team that has made the same mistakes and you seem to be fine with. (or refuse comment on) You then tell me to not make assumptions, and yet you started off the post by making your own assumption on his behavior.

If I understood the article correctly Gregory had been disciplined several times before and was close to being booted for weed.That`s what I meant about not using his head and being smart enough to keep from repeating his mistake.As for honey Badger I was not for drafting him.But he got drafted and he is here.So be it..So tell me what is your problem with me? Just the fact that I disagree with you? What is it? Got something against Older folks?

 

[LoyaltyisaCurse]

Keep in mind , he failed two Weed tests in college a few months ago...

 

[dreamcastrocks]

If I understood the article correctly Gregory had been disciplined several times before and was close to being booted for weed.That`s what I meant about not using his head and being smart enough to keep from repeating his mistake.As for honey Badger I was not for drafting him.But he got drafted and he is here.So be it..So tell me what is your problem with me? Just the fact that I disagree with you? What is it? Got something against Older folks?

I don't have any problem with you at all. We clearly disagree here.

 

[dreamcastrocks]

Keep in mind , he failed two Weed tests in college a few months ago...

Sounds more and more like Randy Moss. He is not quite the talent as his position that Moss was, but Moss would have been a top 10 pick prior to the weed problems and fell to 21. I'm sure most of the people that passed on him wouldn't make the same choice again.

Who knows. He could fall to where we pick. With our need at LB, I'd take a flier on him.

 

[Snakester]

Yes because we are so desperate for a pass rusher we will take anyone. Sorry but I would take an ax murderer at this point just to get a guy that could rush the QB.

 

[40yearfan]

It's been put out there that he quit smoking in December, he just had smoked so much before that there was still some in his system. So since the kid quit months before the combine I'd think all the accusations thrown out against him on this thread are moot.

It doesn't stay in your system that long. At least that is what we were told by the people who ran the drug program for the IBEW. Two weeks at the most and maybe a month if you are testing hair follicles.

 

[BigRedRage]

It doesn't stay in your system that long. At least that is what we were told by the people who ran the drug program for the IBEW. Two weeks at the most and maybe a month if you are testing hair follicles.

3-30 days in urine depending on multiple factors.

 

[CardsSunsDbacks]

HB is a special case IMO because he actually had football taken away from him for a year in college. So he already had to see what life was like without the one thing he loved to do more than anything else and thus was willing to make the change. I don't know that Randy has had the same revelation.

For all I know Gregory may have learned his lesson and will never be caught doing it again, but he still shouldn't be compared to HB IMO because HB specifically got football (his life long dream) taken away from him and he didn't even know for sure if he would get another chance. If that event doesn't change your life from an NFL prospect perspective than I don't know what will.

 

[dreamcastrocks]

For all I know Gregory may have learned his lesson and will never be caught doing it again, but he still shouldn't be compared to HB IMO because HB specifically got football (his life long dream) taken away from him and he didn't even know for sure if he would get another chance. If that event doesn't change your life from an NFL prospect perspective than I don't know what will.

Quoting yourself?

 

[Jetstream Green]

For a team like the Cardinals drafting late in the first round, the only way to get a dynamic playmaker is to gamble on a player that slips to them and hope it works out... a guy like Gregory is a stud pass rusher which really often is only available to a team in the first 10 picks, and to an extent the same roll of the dice exists with a back like Gurley too

 

[oaken1]

For a team like the Cardinals drafting late in the first round, the only way to get a dynamic playmaker is to gamble on a player that slips to them and hope it works out... a guy like Gregory is a stud pass rusher which really often is only available to a team in the first 10 picks, and to an extent the same roll of the dice exists with a back like Gurley too

I agree with this..... my heart says pass on the guy due to questions about his cognitive functioning.....but the truth is,...when have we been in a position to draft a player who can actually make a huge difference for this team??

when we draft high we are so damned bad one player makes little difference.....then when we play well,...drafting in the mid to late twenties rarely nets a game changer in regards to talent.

it is a gamble....could flop,.....could pay off huge....

dude look awful scrawny though.

 

[CardsSunsDbacks]

Quoting yourself?

What you never have a conversation with yourself?

Reply was actually meant for you though.

 

[cardncubfan]

It doesn't matter if marijuana becomes legal in Arizona if it is still an illegal drug according to the NFL. If you want play for a team in the league you need to play by their rules. It's not rocket science.

Yep.

My job just sent out a notice reminding us even if weed is legal that it is still prohibited for our job and could result in termination. They made it crystal clear. If I or someone I worked with chose to do it and got caught they would have nobody to blame but themselves.

Career or weed? Pretty easy choice to figure out which is more important.

As for Gregory guys can change...look at Mathieu, if the Cards want him and he is there you'd like to think they did their due diligence.

The laws & rules are pretty stupid really. Especially when tobacco & alcohol are much worse but are allowed.

 

[Buckybird]

Especially when tobacco & alcohol are much worse but are allowed.

Really? Lol

Based on?

 

[cardncubfan]

Really? Lol

Based on?

Science!

 

[cardncubfan]

Really? Lol

Based on?

True story: No one has ever died from marijuana. Alcohol & tobacco on the other hand....

 

[Brian in Mesa]

True story: No one has ever died from marijuana. Alcohol & tobacco on the other hand....

Third Death in Colorado Linked to Marijuana Edibles

http://www.foodsafetynews.com/2015/...rado-linked-to-edible-marijuana/#.VRYOMPzF-So

Marijuana Use Linked to Two Deaths

http://www.livescience.com/47180-marijuana-deaths-cardiovascular-complications.html

 

[cardncubfan]

Third Death in Colorado Linked to Marijuana Edibles

http://www.foodsafetynews.com/2015/...rado-linked-to-edible-marijuana/#.VRYOMPzF-So

Marijuana Use Linked to Two Deaths

http://www.livescience.com/47180-marijuana-deaths-cardiovascular-complications.html

Following the online publication of the paper, Jost Leune, the head of the German Association for Drugs and Addiction in Hannover, Germany, criticized the report in an interview with the website TheLocal.de, saying, "Cannabis does not paralyze the breathing or the heart."

"Deaths due to cannabis use are usually accidents that are not caused by the substance, but to the circumstances of use," Leune said.

"We assume the deaths of these two young men occurred due to arrhythmias evoked by smoking cannabis," but this assumption does not rule out that the men were predisposed to cardiovascular risks, they wrote.

 

[cardncubfan]

Third Death in Colorado Linked to Marijuana Edibles

http://www.foodsafetynews.com/2015/...rado-linked-to-edible-marijuana/#.VRYOMPzF-So

Marijuana Use Linked to Two Deaths

http://www.livescience.com/47180-marijuana-deaths-cardiovascular-complications.html

Two people that are remotely connected to marijuana vs millions attributed to alcohol & tobacco. Yeah it's just as bad.

 

[Brian in Mesa]

Two people that are remotely connected to marijuana vs millions attributed to alcohol & tobacco. Yeah it's just as bad.

I did not say it was "just as bad." Just pointing out that it is ridiculous to use absolutes.

 

[the_future23]

Do I take a top talent because he smoked weed, a drug that is legal on 4 states and decriminalized in many others.


Absolutely. Not.

 

[Jetstream Green]

True story: No one has ever died from marijuana. Alcohol & tobacco on the other hand....

All I know is that recent reports have come back (maybe they are exhibiting them now since it is legal) and they compared a lung after years of smoking marijuana compared to tobacco and the lung with pot was almost twice as bad... I thought the tar in a cigarette would make it worse but it does not

 

[Buckybird]

All I know is that recent reports have come back (maybe they are exhibiting them now since it is legal) and they compared a lung after years of smoking marijuana compared to tobacco and the lung with pot was almost twice as bad... I thought the tar in a cigarette would make it worse but it does not

Many of the same cancer causing carcinogens that are in tobacco are in pot, which was my point to cardncubfan. Let's face it, any smoke that's gets in the lungs can't be good for you

 

[cardncubfan]

While cannabis smoke has been implicated in respiratory dysfunction, including the conversion of respiratory cells to what appears to be a pre-cancerous state [5], it has not been causally linked with tobacco related cancers [6] such as lung, colon or rectal cancers. Recently, Hashibe et al [7] carried out an epidemiological analysis of marijuana smoking and cancer. A connection between marijuana smoking and lung or colorectal cancer was not observed. These conclusions are reinforced by the recent work of Tashkin and coworkers [8] who were unable to demonstrate a cannabis smoke and lung cancer link, despite clearly demonstrating cannabis smoke-induced cellular damage.

Furthermore, compounds found in cannabis have been shown to kill numerous cancer types including: lung cancer [9], breast and prostate [10], leukemia and lymphoma [11], glioma [12], skin cancer [13], and pheochromocytoma

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1277837/

 

[cardncubfan]

My point is one is way more harmful but allowed by the NFL but the other is not. Marijuana actually helps people suffering from ptsd, cancer, epilepsy, & other ailments. Tobacco only kills people.