Dodgers @ Dbacks series thread Aug 8th - Aug 10th

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Sucks because ZG pitched very well.

Freaking AJ. When's the last time that guy drove in a run?


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Guys giving up three runs is not pitching very well. Especially when your team gets you the lead and you choke it away. This is not the first time he has done this. I forget, but this happened recently in another big game where Lovulo left him and he blew the game.

I like Greinke and he is good but he is not that knock out stud that this team is missing. He's being paid as a knock out stud and he's not performing at the rate in my opinion. In all of these big games that he pitches it seems he gives up an early run. When our ace is on the mound we cannot loose a game like this. Unfortunately this is the reason the snakes will have a hard time making the playoffs and an even more difficult time doing anything in the playoffs. I'm a die hard fan and hate to say it, but i just don't think we have it.
 

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Guys giving up three runs is not pitching very well. Especially when your team gets you the lead and you choke it away. This is not the first time he has done this. I forget, but this happened recently in another big game where Lovulo left him and he blew the game.

I like Greinke and he is good but he is not that knock out stud that this team is missing. He's being paid as a knock out stud and he's not performing at the rate in my opinion. In all of these big games that he pitches it seems he gives up an early run. When our ace is on the mound we cannot loose a game like this. Unfortunately this is the reason the snakes will have a hard time making the playoffs and an even more difficult time doing anything in the playoffs. I'm a die hard fan and hate to say it, but i just don't think we have it.

Who besides Scherzer and Kershaw are pitching better in the NL than Greinke?
 

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Literally was his first loss at home this season, against the best team in baseball (perhaps one of the best teams we've ever seen), against a guy who is 14-1. He have up 4 hits and our offensive juggernaut of a team gave him a whopping 2 runs of support while leaving another 11 runners on base... But ZG haters call those "excuses" because being paid a lot means you are never allowed to give up any runs...

When he pitches well we hear nothing, when he loses everyone is all over him. Everyone acts like Randy never lost. Pretty much everyone in baseball agrees this guy is one of the best, except for Dbacks fans. lol

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It's not the pitching, it's the lack of key hits ESPECIALLY from fan favorites Peralta and Pollack who have done jack squat with runners on the past month. They have 58 ground outs between the two of them in the past 30 days. The team has left more RISP since the all-star break than any other team in the NL.

But let's keep piling on Greinke because he gets paid a lot. He's garbage.:pullhair:
 
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We're still playing super exciting, meaningful games in mid-August, fighting for a playoff spot and still surpassing all expectations for this team going into the season.

So before we start the 'fire TL and trade ZG' threads, consider that. The Dodgers don't lose, and we've played them tough this past month, even as poorly as we've been playing. Sometimes it's good to take a step back and look at the big picture. Everything that's happening right now is a pleasant surprise.
 

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It's not the pitching, it's the lack of key hits ESPECIALLY from fan favorites Peralta and Pollack who have done jack squat with runners on the past month. They have 58 ground outs between the two of them in the past 30 days. The team has left more RISP since the all-star break than any other team in the NL.

More interesting numbers:

[H]ere’s a look back at the post-All-Star break stretch, by the numbers.

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The D-backs rank just 22nd with a .248 average when runners are in scoring position, which actually is a tick better than their overall batting average after the All-Star break of .242. However, compared to their sixth-best batting .279 batting average with runners in scoring position before the All-Star break, the team is no where near that same production. Overall, Arizona was batting .259 heading into the break, which ranked 12th-best in the majors.

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Arizona ranks first in MLB with a walk rate of 11.1 percent, which has made up for a slumping batting average of .242 (22nd) to put more men on base. It’s helped: Arizona ranks ninth after the All-Star break with an on-base percentage of .337.

http://arizonasports.com/story/1201170/d-backs-post-all-star-break-by-the-numbers/
 

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Redemption gm for the dbacks tonight be huge if they show up tonight to strike lightining in a bottle one again.
 

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Guys giving up three runs is not pitching very well. Especially when your team gets you the lead and you choke it away. This is not the first time he has done this. I forget, but this happened recently in another big game where Lovulo left him and he blew the game.

I like Greinke and he is good but he is not that knock out stud that this team is missing. He's being paid as a knock out stud and he's not performing at the rate in my opinion. In all of these big games that he pitches it seems he gives up an early run. When our ace is on the mound we cannot loose a game like this. Unfortunately this is the reason the snakes will have a hard time making the playoffs and an even more difficult time doing anything in the playoffs. I'm a die hard fan and hate to say it, but i just don't think we have it.

Huh?? :doi:
 

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More interesting numbers:

[H]ere’s a look back at the post-All-Star break stretch, by the numbers.

.248
The D-backs rank just 22nd with a .248 average when runners are in scoring position, which actually is a tick better than their overall batting average after the All-Star break of .242. However, compared to their sixth-best batting .279 batting average with runners in scoring position before the All-Star break, the team is no where near that same production. Overall, Arizona was batting .259 heading into the break, which ranked 12th-best in the majors.

11.1
Arizona ranks first in MLB with a walk rate of 11.1 percent, which has made up for a slumping batting average of .242 (22nd) to put more men on base. It’s helped: Arizona ranks ninth after the All-Star break with an on-base percentage of .337.

http://arizonasports.com/story/1201170/d-backs-post-all-star-break-by-the-numbers/

Beyond pathetic... With the possible exception of Goldy (and an argument can be made for Lamb, though not by me so much...), the entire lineup has failed at the plate post All-Star break. As for Lamb, he is hitting right at .200 since the break, yet, somehow he has an OPS of roughly .890... I would think that if he continues to hit at the Mendoza line, his OPS will begin to suffer as well.
 
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Get the series tonight!
Dodgers haven't lost a series in two months.
 

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Get the series tonight!
Dodgers haven't lost a series in two months.

I hope Banda does ok. Have we heard any ETA's on Ray's return? I thought he would forsure be back on this home stand.
 

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I hope Banda does ok. Have we heard any ETA's on Ray's return? I thought he would forsure be back on this home stand.

Hall was on Doug & Wolf this morning and said the all systems are GO with Ray... He is still in the concussion protocol, but has been running & pitching with no ill effects. They want to be careful though... as, we rushed Archie back and he crumbled... don't want to do the same with Ray.
 

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Hall was on Doug & Wolf this morning and said the all systems are GO with Ray... He is still in the concussion protocol, but has been running & pitching with no ill effects. They want to be careful though... as, we rushed Archie back and he crumbled... don't want to do the same with Ray.

Probably a good call. Thanks for the update!

#GoDbacks
 

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Standing in line at another buffet... [emoji488][emoji895][emoji894][emoji899]
Hey Yasmani, try the one at Talking Stick Resort in north Scottsdale. Their peeled fresh shrimp is worthy of the Bacchanal Buffet at Caesars in Las Vegas.

Although it would be good to have Yasmani as a backup corner outfielder.
 

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Went to the game yesterday. Dbacks really struggle against lefties it seems. They had some opportunities again. Can't blame Grenke for this one. Hitters need to step it up and create better opportunities for beginning of the order. Outside of the Chicago game Goldschmidt hasn't hit particularly well in the 2nd half with RISP. I think he needs to be back in the 3 hole. Pollock, Paralta, Goldschmidt, Lamb/Martinez.
 

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Went to the game yesterday. Dbacks really struggle against lefties it seems. They had some opportunities again. Can't blame Grenke for this one. Hitters need to step it up and create better opportunities for beginning of the order. Outside of the Chicago game Goldschmidt hasn't hit particularly well in the 2nd half with RISP. I think he needs to be back in the 3 hole. Pollock, Paralta, Goldschmidt, Lamb/Martinez.

Hell, jump right past the 3 hole and drop him at 2.
 

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Not surprised,,,, something like that was Banda happen.... Get it? #Rimshot
 

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Hey Yasmani, try the one at Talking Stick Resort in north Scottsdale. Their peeled fresh shrimp is worthy of the Bacchanal Buffet at Caesars in Las Vegas.

Although it would be good to have Yasmani as a backup corner outfielder.

Everything at that buffet is the bomb. I love those little Shrimp dumplings they always have. So freakin good. (Hey it's better than discussing this game so far) ;)
 

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No outs, man on 1st.... Bold prediction; Pollock grounds out.
 

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3 to 0 ugh doesnt sound good this gm... and play the cubs next ugh :(
 

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Let's come up with more Banda puns....


He's done a good job putting a Bandaid on this game after a rough start. :p
 
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