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Or the blind faithers will say it's anyone BUT KM's fault and that he bears no blame.

Serious question: If he doesn't mature over the offseason, do we have a chance to get better?
Absolutely, if we have some better receivers and Oline we could be better, or how about a defense that can stop anyone? Of course this all depends on Kiem getting good talent which is a crap shoot at best! No one was talking crap about Kyler when this team was kicking ass (healthy), it’s a team game if we have to solely rely on one player to win you’ve already lost. I stand by that most QBs would have struggled to win with the crap we fielded the second half of the season. To little talent on the field late season when it mattered. To many disappearing acts from guys like CJ, AJ, Kirk and just lack of talent on D to stop anyone or generate any pressure on a QB!
 

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Absolutely, if we have some better receivers and Oline we could be better, or how about a defense that can stop anyone? Of course this all depends on Kiem getting good talent which is a crap shoot at best! No one was talking crap about Kyler when this team was kicking ass (healthy), it’s a team game if we have to solely rely on one player to win you’ve already lost. I stand by that most QBs would have struggled to win with the crap we fielded the second half of the season. To little talent on the field late season when it mattered. To many disappearing acts from guys like CJ, AJ, Kirk and just lack of talent on D to stop anyone or generate any pressure on a QB!
So you think KM is perfectly fine and doesn't at all need to improve. It's everyone and everything's fault EXCEPT our QB. Boy, I absolutely LOVE how KM elevates everyone around him. What a sign of a great QB lol
 

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About as much of a chance as someone who'll remain unnamed stopping his passive-aggressive abuse of adjectives. ;)
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Thanks for the ribbing, man. I'm a writer, and a good one at that, but, buuut...that means I'm immensely, outrageously, and in all ways enormously lazy when it comes to writing online, especially on message boards. Just don't have the energy for good writing on here. Plus, I get away with awful adjectives, adverb abuse, and purple prose when I can't get away with it elsewhere :)
 

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Thanks for the ribbing, man. I'm a writer, and a good one at that, but, buuut...that means I'm immensely, outrageously, and in all ways enormously lazy when it comes to writing online, especially on message boards. Just don't have the energy for good writing on here. Plus, I get away with awful adjectives, adverb abuse, and purple prose when I can't get away with it elsewhere :)
That’s funny. As I essentially write for a living as attorney it means writing with exactitude. As a result I tend to write really lazy/sloppy online as well.
 

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So you think KM is perfectly fine and doesn't at all need to improve. It's everyone and everything's fault EXCEPT our QB. Boy, I absolutely LOVE how KM elevates everyone around him. What a sign of a great QB lol
Never said that, said many times he’s young and of course needs to grow up and keep learning. Simply pointing out what many saw early on was a QB that was playing MVP level before everything went to crap along with his attitude and play.
 

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Find the NFL far less interesting after the Cards are eliminated. I enjoyed the playoffs and I’ll watch the Super Bowl, but I just can’t get excited. In fact I think I like the college game better. Not only future Cards but more diverse offenses. Just more fun!

That's every year for me. If the Cards aren't in the Playoffs, I don't really watch any game until the Super Bowl, and that's mainly for the excuse to hang out with friends and watch the commercials. :)
 

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Never said that, said many times he’s young and of course needs to grow up and keep learning. Simply pointing out what many saw early on was a QB that was playing MVP level before everything went to crap along with his attitude and play.
Ah, excellent. We are in agreement that his attitude and play went to crap. Also, we are in agreement that the team also melted around him, injuries played a large role, and that KK and Keim bear a lot of blame. Accord!
 

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Ah, excellent. We are in agreement that his attitude and play went to crap. Also, we are in agreement that the team also melted around him, injuries played a large role, and that KK and Keim bear a lot of blame. Accord!
I would go as far as to say KK is more to blame than anyone. His game plans are terrible and his in game management and adjustments are atrocious. Good coaches don’t fold and fall apart the way KK appears to. Just looking at him in the playoff game you could tell dude was out of his league!
 

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I would go as far as to say KK is more to blame than anyone. His game plans are terrible and his in game management and adjustments are atrocious. Good coaches don’t fold and fall apart the way KK appears to. Just looking at him in the playoff game you could tell dude was out of his league!

no one was saying this when previously atrocious Colt McCoy came in and ran the offense like a fine-tuned machine in two road wins out of his 3 games.

I'm not a KK fan. I wanted him fired. But you could place KK with K1 in all of the above and the same would be true.
 

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no one was saying this when previously atrocious Colt McCoy came in and ran the offense like a fine-tuned machine in two road wins out of his 3 games.

I'm not a KK fan. I wanted him fired. But you could place KK with K1 in all of the above and the same would be true.
See that's why I argue that Murray is a big part of the problem.

He objectively played like doo-doo in 4 of the last 6 games. McCoy went 2-1 proceeding Murray's swoon. How is that not great coaching to get 2 of the best performances in Colt McCoys career?

You can argue a Kingsbury fall off, but I'll raise you a Kyler Murray fall off.
 

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See that's why I argue that Murray is a big part of the problem.

He objectively played like doo-doo in 4 of the last 6 games. McCoy went 2-1 proceeding Murray's swoon. How is that not great coaching to get 2 of the best performances in Colt McCoys career?

You can argue a Kingsbury fall off, but I'll raise you a Kyler Murray fall off.
Maybe Kyler is just going to do what he wants when he wants. I mean we’ll never know if on 3rd and 3 a particular play was called to get the first down but kyler decide to throw an unsuccessful 30 yard sideline pass.
If that was the case Kingsbury would never call him out on it in public. Hell he might not even call him out in private.
 

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