draft

[Kody]

anyone else think we should pick up the best available DB or best available OL before anything else?

 

[Billy Flynt]

I think we should concentrate on this year until we are officially eliminated from playoff contention.

 

[Kody]

never said we are, just gotta win out and imo we gotta good chance

 

[D-Dogg]

Perfect time for this thread. Gotta have something to look forward to.

BPA should be the rule. We have lots of holes. CB is a glaring one.

 

[dreamcastrocks]

I like the BPA in the top 10. It doesn't look like we will draft in the top 10, so we can try to focus on our needs, CB being the biggest one.

Cason is my pick.

 

[JeffGollin]

Funny. I was just thinking about that, and posted something about the draft and Cardinal needs in the "Next Morning" section of the Seattle game recap.

(I haven't given up on the season; but must admit that my mind did begin to drift in the direction of personnel and the off season).

Here's a somewhat unorthodox take on our roster and our approach to the draft. The injuries really hit it home.

All teams have injuries and so have we. But different teams deal with injury breakouts in varying ways. The good teams always seem to have someone in #2, #3 or even #4 slots who are capable of stepping up and replacing an injured player. Mediocre teams don't. (Sometimes bad teams get lucky and cover up their lack of quality depth by not having a lot of injuries, but sooner or later, it will catch up with them).

My point - Every one of the 53 spots on our roster imust be considered precious. In today's pro football environment, for example, we can no longer afford to carry a #3 journeyman O-lineman who merely serves as a place-holder. These guys have to be ready to contribute. When we get where we should be as a football team, anyone (I repeat anyone) on our roster must be ready to step in at any time to replace a starter and do a better-than-competent job on the football field.

What this suggests is that if there's a player who's significalntly better than any other available player on your board when you pick, you take him - even if you feel you're loaded at his position. Usually, what will happen is that you'll still find guys you need (like Breaston and Patrick) dropping to you anyway.

But this is the best and fastest way to get to 53 players who can all step in and help.

(True, a case could be made - at this point in Year One - that Adrian Peterson was a better available player than Levi Brown. Maybe. But (a) it typically takes longer for a LT to attain full potential than a talented RB, (b) Peterson's injury risk was a legitimate concern and we'll need to wait 4 or 5 years to see if the gamble was worth it and (c) whether Peterson was significantly better than Levi should be considered a judgment call).

So I guess I'm a "best available player" man - with the proviso that, in case of ties or near-ties, it's OK to pick the guy you need most.

 

[Cheesebeef]

with Rod Graves running the show, I have no reason to talk about the draft. In his "first" draft the guy passed on Adrian Peterson for a 2nd rate T and had a 3rd round pick washout before the season started. As good as Breaston is, you'll have to forgive me if I'm not gonna waste my time talking about how Graves is going to mangle next year's draft because the sun shone on a dog's ass once that weekend.

 

[PoolBoy]

and this is why i hate draft threads....always relates to AP, we really need a cry about AP section on the board...seriously.

 

[Totally_Red]

I think we should concentrate on this year until we are officially eliminated from playoff contention.

We are effectively TWO games behind Minnesota with THREE to play. Our playoff chances are slim and none. Minnesota has to lose two of three and we have to run the table. Possible but not likely.

 

[football karma]

Perfect time for this thread. Gotta have something to look forward to.

BPA should be the rule. We have lots of holes. CB is a glaring one.

bingo.

While I would like a corner and/or a pass rusher, I am back on the BPA bandwagon.

 

[DaisyCutter]

I think it might be too early to talk about the draft until the underclassmen declare. Because we'll likely be picking in the middle 10, where underclassmen become interesting, it's probably too early to start handicapping.

That being said, it's not too early to start talking about needs, especially going into free agency. The good news is that we don't seem to be in the place where we're going to be depending on our first two picks to become starters. Ideally, all our picks will build depth for this team. That's the greatest cause for optimism that we have.

OT, OG, DE/OLB, DT/DE, 3rd/4th WR, 2nd RB, FS, and CB 4-6 should all be priorities. With a better pass rush in front of them, our cornerbacks can be okay. Not great, but okay.

 

[cardsfanmd]

IMO we should take the BPA who isn't a WR or QB.

 

[Mulli]

IMO we should take the BPA who isn't a WR or QB.

I agree.

 

[dreamcastrocks]

IMO we should take the BPA who isn't a WR or QB.

BPA is a great strategy. However, IMO the BPA strategy can be lessened if you will between draft positions 11-20, because the talent level between these positions, isn't as great as they are in the top 10.

The Cards always draft for need in the top 10, when they should be drafting BPA.

 

[SuperSpck]

BPA is tough to define.

What if the BPA is a WR?
Worked out pretty well for the Lions, sure, but if he's the legit guy on the board you've gotta go with him (trades notwithstanding).
QB is also unlikely, but if he's really the best guy at that spot...

There are layers to everything and while I don't think ANY position should be off limits to the BPA rule it's really hard to stick to that rule.

 

[SuperSpck]

IMO we should take the BPA who isn't a WR or QB.

Nuts, seems redundant when you go change out laundry, post your thoughts and then on the refresh finding out 4 people already said it.

 

[Mulli]

Since these are the Cards, we should also be sure to exclude placekickers and punters from BPA.

 

[Cbus cardsfan]

IMO we should take the BPA who isn't a WR or QB.

As much as i like Desean Jackson,drafting a WR in round is probably not the way to go right now because, assuming Boldin and Fitz are healthy, the most you're getting is a #3 WR for a few years. But i hate passing on playmaking talent like Jackson or AP last year. In the long run, those type of players don't come around all that often and when you have a shot at one, you need to take it.

 

[dreamcastrocks]

As much as i like Desean Jackson,drafting a WR in round is probably not the way to go right now because, assuming Boldin and Fitz are healthy, the most you're getting is a #3 WR for a few years. But i hate passing on playmaking talent like Jackson or AP last year. In the long run, those type of players don't come around all that often and when you have a shot at one, you need to take it.

I agree. I don't see us drafting in the top 10 again for at least 4 or 5 years.

 

[Mulli]

I agree. I don't see us drafting in the top 10 again for at least 4 or 5 years.

 

[dreamcastrocks]

yeah.

 

[Big Deal]

BPA is tough to define.

What if the BPA is a WR?
Worked out pretty well for the Lions, sure, but if he's the legit guy on the board you've gotta go with him (trades notwithstanding).
QB is also unlikely, but if he's really the best guy at that spot...

There are layers to everything and while I don't think ANY position should be off limits to the BPA rule it's really hard to stick to that rule.

I wouldn't say it worked out for the Lions. I think if they had drafted AP they wouldn't have went 0-8 in the second half of the season

 

[dreamcastrocks]

I wouldn't say it worked out for the Lions. I think if they had drafted AP they wouldn't have went 0-8 in the second half of the season

I agree. I think that AP should have been the Lions pick. Hell, I bet the Raiders wished they drafted him.

 

[Cbus cardsfan]

I agree. I think that AP should have been the Lions pick. Hell, I bet the Raiders wished they drafted him.

Why the Raiders haven't started playing Russell every stinking play is beyond me. They are done for the year.Get the kid some experience and not just a token appearance here and there. Hell, Andrew Walter got in the game yesterady.

 

[D-Dogg]

I agree. I think that AP should have been the Lions pick. Hell, I bet the Raiders wished they drafted him.

The raiders followed up with Michael Bush though, who will be a stud.