Dragic: My only problem was with GM Ryan McDonough

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[Mainstreet]

Maybe McDonough's biggest headache was Dragic.

 

[JCSunsfan]

Quite the change in sentiment considering everyone said as recent as days ago that their glad Dragic is gone because it will take max to keep him.....

And like I said for what it's worth, the Heat radio station reported earlier he didn't test the market and if he did, he may have got max offer from Knicks but he took this to help Riley sign other guys.

It would have. Dragic would not have signed for the here or anywhere else for 5/90. He took $20 million less so that the Heat could re-sign DWade.

So, while the Dragic contract looks like a lot right now, it would have been even more here, AND HE MIGHT STILL HAVE WALKED.

Its really time to move on.

All I care about regarding Dragic and Miami regards the picks they owe us. Here is hoping that Winslow is a flop.

 

[sunsfan88]

It would have. Dragic would not have signed for the here or anywhere else for 5/90. He took $20 million less so that the Heat could re-sign DWade.

So, while the Dragic contract looks like a lot right now, it would have been even more here, AND HE MIGHT STILL HAVE WALKED.

Its really time to move on.

All I care about regarding Dragic and Miami regards the picks they owe us. Here is hoping that Winslow is a flop.

I said it earlier but yea I'm still glad rebuilding team like us aren't the ones paying him the $90M.

 

[SirStefan32]

I said it earlier but yea I'm still glad rebuilding team like us aren't the ones paying him the $90M.

Agreed! That statement might be the only statement on this board we can ALL agree on. SF88 the Uniter!

 

[Mainstreet]

I'm think the Suns are waiting for other teams to blow their wads of money so they can close in on players like e.g., Robin Lopez or Jordon Hill.

 

[JCSunsfan]

I'm think the Suns are waiting for other teams to blow their wads of money so they can close in on players like e.g., Robin Lopez or Jordon Hill.

Not sure how that will work, there are still lots of teams out there with money burning in their pockets.

 

[Mainstreet]

Not sure how that will work, there are still lots of teams out there with money burning in their pockets.

Still, I think the Suns are waiting for the big spenders to do their thing.

How sweet would it be to add Robin Lopez and Ed Davis or Jordon Hill to fill out the Suns roster.

I really like anchoring the center position first based upon the way FA is playing out right now.

 

[sunsfan88]

I'm think the Suns are waiting for other teams to blow their wads of money so they can close in on players like e.g., Robin Lopez or Jordon Hill.

Still, I think the Suns are waiting for the big spenders to do their thing.

How sweet would it be to add Robin Lopez and Ed Davis or Jordon Hill to fill out the Suns roster.

I really like anchoring the center position first based upon the way FA is playing out right now.

The guy I wanted for depth just got signed for pretty good value for NOP

http://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/238527/Alexis-Ajinca-Pelicans-Agree-Upon-Four-Year-$202M-Deal

I wonder if Lopez & Hill will only cost in that range.

 

[JCSunsfan]

Still, I think the Suns are waiting for the big spenders to do their thing.

How sweet would it be to add Robin Lopez and Ed Davis or Jordon Hill to fill out the Suns roster.

I really like anchoring the center position first based upon the way FA is playing out right now.

How about Tyson Chandler? Since as of this moment, he is a Sun.

 

[Budden]

Its not about deliberately being small, its more about not wasting resources and playing time on guys that are big purely because they are big. If you can find good, talented big men then GREAT, play them. But for ages the league has been giving playing time to TERRIBLE big men who are only out there because of their height. And finally the league, well at least some of its teams, are getting wise to it.

This is a good point and has actually changed my thinking on the whole topic of a "changing league" we hear about so much. Traditional Basketball wisdom says you pick the bigger guy over the smaller guy every time. Not because "all things are equal," but because in the real world, you don't know. Of course it's better to have a 6'9 player than a 6'4 player at the small forward position if those two players both have equal potential, but it old dogma dictated that you should make that choice even if the 6'4 guy had more upside. It's really tough to go up against guys who have 4 inches and 50 pounds in you night after night, and if your entire team is in that predicament every night, it's going to be even tougher. If you can get really good, really big players, then get them.

What's changed is that there are less skilled centers and tons of skilled power forwards. Rather than keeping the PF at the 4 and pairing him with some 7 foot stiff "because you need size to win," teams are sliding that PF over to the 5 and probably sliding a couple of his teammates up a spot as well. Size is is still great. Any GM wants it if he can get it. It's a bit like roads. If the big highway is clear, it's the fastest way to home. It has inherent qualities that you're looking for: high speed limit, no traffic lights, wide lanes. But if it's rush hour, these qualities don't matter anymore. The surface streets will get you home faster, even though they're smaller and have lower maximum speeds.

To me, it doesn't make sense to restrict yourself to highway (big guys) or surface streets (smallball). This is one of the reasons the Spurs have had such prolonged success in the Pop era. They've had the twin towers, the scoreboard hipcheckers, they've gone small and gone big. They won their last championship with a small, perimeter oriented offense. Now, with Aldridge and Duncan at the 4 and 5, plus 6'7 wiry strong Leonard at the 3, they're going pretty big again.

 

[BC867]

This is a good point and has actually changed my thinking on the whole topic of a "changing league" we hear about so much. Traditional Basketball wisdom says you pick the bigger guy over the smaller guy every time. Not because "all things are equal," but because in the real world, you don't know. Of course it's better to have a 6'9 player than a 6'4 player at the small forward position if those two players both have equal potential, but it old dogma dictated that you should make that choice even if the 6'4 guy had more upside. It's really tough to go up against guys who have 4 inches and 50 pounds in you night after night, and if your entire team is in that predicament every night, it's going to be even tougher. If you can get really good, really big players, then get them.

What's changed is that there are less skilled centers and tons of skilled power forwards. Rather than keeping the PF at the 4 and pairing him with some 7 foot stiff "because you need size to win," teams are sliding that PF over to the 5 and probably sliding a couple of his teammates up a spot as well. Size is is still great. Any GM wants it if he can get it. It's a bit like roads. If the big highway is clear, it's the fastest way to home. It has inherent qualities that you're looking for: high speed limit, no traffic lights, wide lanes. But if it's rush hour, these qualities don't matter anymore. The surface streets will get you home faster, even though they're smaller and have lower maximum speeds.

To me, it doesn't make sense to restrict yourself to highway (big guys) or surface streets (smallball). This is one of the reasons the Spurs have had such prolonged success in the Pop era. They've had the twin towers, the scoreboard hipcheckers, they've gone small and gone big. They won their last championship with a small, perimeter oriented offense. Now, with Aldridge and Duncan at the 4 and 5, plus 6'7 wiry strong Leonard at the 3, they're going pretty big again.

Your disclaimer does say a lot in one sentence. At least now, we have the possibility of being both skilled and strong with Chandler and Len at Center. And, hopefully, we can obtain a lesser version (now) of Aldridge at PF, giving us skill and strength there, as well.

Both is better than having to settle for either.