Drew Henson may have shot at baseball again

[Ryanwb]

I just read that projected starting 3B for the NY Yankees Aaron Boone probably has a torn ACL and could be lost for the season. Turns out, they have NOBODY as a replacement at 3B.

One of the names the Yankees are going to have to consider is Drew Henson. So what do you do if you are Drew? Do you keep playing baseball with a shot at a starting job in the majors this spring or do you quit and take a shot at football?

He is going to have to make his decision before the NFL draft. because the baseball teams report to camp in March

...interesting developments

 

[Russ Smith]

Originally posted by Ryanwb
I just read that projected starting 3B for the NY Yankees Aaron Boone probably has a torn ACL and could be lost for the season. Turns out, they have NOBODY as a replacement at 3B.

One of the names the Yankees are going to have to consider is Drew Henson. So what do you do if you are Drew? Do you keep playing baseball with a shot at a starting job in the majors this spring or do you quit and take a shot at football?

He is going to have to make his decision before the NFL draft. because the baseball teams report to camp in March

...interesting developments

Ouch for Boone I've always like him as a player.

Regarding Henson, they will almost assuredly make a trade or sign someone else, you have to realize HOW bad he was in AAA he just can't hit a curveball, and his defense was not that great either. From the ESPN story on Boone:

Henson, the former University of Michigan quarterback, agreed to a $17 million, six-year contract with the Yankees in 2001. He hit .234 with 14 homers, 40 doubles and 78 RBI at Triple-A Columbus this season. But he also struck out 122 times and made 28 errors at third. THat was only 483 AB's so he strikes out once every 4 AB's, and he had only 32 walks that's a .291 OBP in AAA!!!!

he has a lot of power, but he can't hit the curveball at all.

 

[conraddobler]

It is amazing to me that a kid could get any contract in baseball at all without first proving he can hit a curve ball.

I think that is basically what seperates the men from the boys and always has been.

There are a ton of great prospects over the last 100 years in baseball you have never heard of cause they had career death over the curve ball.

 

[Russ Smith]

Originally posted by conraddobler
It is amazing to me that a kid could get any contract in baseball at all without first proving he can hit a curve ball.

I think that is basically what seperates the men from the boys and always has been.

There are a ton of great prospects over the last 100 years in baseball you have never heard of cause they had career death over the curve ball.

Absolutely, but consider, Henson when he left highschool held the national record for homers in highschool(I forget it if was career, or one season). he was a SS, great athlete, great arm, and great power. The Yankees gave him all that money to buy him away from football assuming when he played baseball fulltime, the hitting the curve would come, it never has.

40 doubles shows you the kind of power he has but if you can't put up a .300 OBP in AAA by now, odds are very much against you ever being able to hit major league pitching. he's not a great defensive 3B he was signed for his bat, so I'd be really surprised if this changes his mind about football.

The problem is Henson has made it pretty clear over the years he prefers baseball, knowing him he may very well change his mind again and go back just to annoy me.

 

[conraddobler]

Originally posted by Russ Smith
Absolutely, but consider, Henson when he left highschool held the national record for homers in highschool(I forget it if was career, or one season). he was a SS, great athlete, great arm, and great power. The Yankees gave him all that money to buy him away from football assuming when he played baseball fulltime, the hitting the curve would come, it never has.

40 doubles shows you the kind of power he has but if you can't put up a .300 OBP in AAA by now, odds are very much against you ever being able to hit major league pitching. he's not a great defensive 3B he was signed for his bat, so I'd be really surprised if this changes his mind about football.

The problem is Henson has made it pretty clear over the years he prefers baseball, knowing him he may very well change his mind again and go back just to annoy me.

Yeah and if Rick Ankiel could avoid hitting the backstop every other pitch he'd be a great power left handed pitcher.

One would think Henson would get the picture about the curve ball thing sooner or later. I am sure it wasn't for lack of trying and I understand him wanting to play baseball if I had a choice between the two it wouldn't be a contest.

More money longer career it is a no brainer really. With all the tutoring he must have had and with all the things he probably tried the chances are he simply can't hit the curve.

I would doubt he dosen't get this but you never know.

 

[Russ Smith]

Originally posted by conraddobler
Yeah and if Rick Ankiel could avoid hitting the backstop every other pitch he'd be a great power left handed pitcher.

You had to bring up Ankiel and break my heart (-: What an amazing talent that's just gone to waste. First the wildness, then the injuries. What's ironic is Ankiel may be a better hitter than Henson based on what he did when they using him as a DH in the minors.

The Cards have had more than their share of guys like Ankiel who come up looking unhittable and then get hurt and are never the same. Guys like Andy Rincon, Allen Watson and many others whose names I forget.

 

[red desert]

Originally posted by conraddobler
It is amazing to me that a kid could get any contract in baseball at all without first proving he can hit a curve ball.

I think that is basically what seperates the men from the boys and always has been.

There are a ton of great prospects over the last 100 years in baseball you have never heard of cause they had career death over the curve ball.

So true.

 

[Bobcat]

Re: Re: Drew Henson may have shot at baseball again

Originally posted by Russ Smith
Ouch for Boone I've always like him as a player.
he has a lot of power, but he can't hit the curveball at all.

If you can't hit the curve ball you don't belong in the bigs!!! It doesn't matter how many homers you hit if you strike out to many times.

Allan

 

[conraddobler]

Originally posted by Russ Smith
You had to bring up Ankiel and break my heart (-: What an amazing talent that's just gone to waste. First the wildness, then the injuries. What's ironic is Ankiel may be a better hitter than Henson based on what he did when they using him as a DH in the minors.

The Cards have had more than their share of guys like Ankiel who come up looking unhittable and then get hurt and are never the same. Guys like Andy Rincon, Allen Watson and many others whose names I forget.

Dave Duncan is evil and you can quote me on that.

I also don't like Tony La Russa he isn't a genius he is bizzare. I think Tony Pena is a much better manager with half the talent.

 

[Russ Smith]

Originally posted by conraddobler
Dave Duncan is evil and you can quote me on that.

I also don't like Tony La Russa he isn't a genius he is bizzare. I think Tony Pena is a much better manager with half the talent.

As an A's fan too, I know both very well. Duncan got famous for basically handling Stewart and Welch who were veterans. He really helped Stewart, Welch he didn't do much for. During those years the A's had a succession of young pitchers come through the farm system, hit the majors, and get hurt, or never make it. I would agree, something about Duncan leads to arm injuries, the classic was Kirk Dressendorfer although in fairness odds are pretty good his arm was so overused in college that it didn't catch up to him until he made the A's.

You'll notice in recent years the A's succession of young pitchers like Mulder, Zito, Hudson and some of the newer young guys they're VERY careful with their arms. They know what happened under Duncan.

 

[mdamien13]

I heard a pretty funny rumor that Henson was considering going into football simply because students from Ohio State would go to all of his games just to heckle him. With his numbers that had to wear on him a bit.

 

[conraddobler]

Originally posted by Russ Smith
As an A's fan too, I know both very well. Duncan got famous for basically handling Stewart and Welch who were veterans. He really helped Stewart, Welch he didn't do much for. During those years the A's had a succession of young pitchers come through the farm system, hit the majors, and get hurt, or never make it. I would agree, something about Duncan leads to arm injuries, the classic was Kirk Dressendorfer although in fairness odds are pretty good his arm was so overused in college that it didn't catch up to him until he made the A's.

You'll notice in recent years the A's succession of young pitchers like Mulder, Zito, Hudson and some of the newer young guys they're VERY careful with their arms. They know what happened under Duncan.

At the risk of continuing a thread that is only losely based on football due to Mr. Henson I would say congrats on having a great team to root for.

I realize some people like La Russa a lot however in two playoff series with the Cards he has made just bizzare decisions that if they panned out wouldn't have been such an issue but they didn't and part of that contributed to the Arizona team getting to the World Series.

Duncan is a solid coach but you are right he has some flaw that seems to just wear out arms. Morris is his latest victim his arm wore down last year and he may or may not ever be the same.

I have been a Cardinal baseball fan since I was about 5 and have witnessed a grand total of 1 world series victory in that time. So seeing teams like the Marlins and the Diamondbacks win one and then have Diamondback fans talk about suffering through the lean years just makes me chuckle.. Talk to a Cubs or Sox fan they know suffering.

 

[Southpaw]

Originally posted by conraddobler
It is amazing to me that a kid could get any contract in baseball at all without first proving he can hit a curve ball.

I think that is basically what seperates the men from the boys and always has been.

There are a ton of great prospects over the last 100 years in baseball you have never heard of cause they had career death over the curve ball.

I don't understand the propensity to draft dual sport athletes into baseball. There are so many failures compared to successes.

i.e. Joe Borchard Stanford QB drafted by White Sox first round. 3rd year in minors - bust. Can't hit curve or off speed stuff.

Josh Booty - Florida Marlins LSU QB . Couldn't hit curveball . trying to enter NFL.

Kenny Kelly - U of Miami QB drafted by Tampa Bay Devil Rays. Now with his 3rd organization. Can't hit curve ball.

The list seems endless. That bonus money and the NCAA allowance to be Pro in baseball and amateur in Football is weird. The Bloom kid from Colorado can't do it with Football and Skiing. Figure that one out.