Durant to Suns

[Yuma]

Same people gnashing their teeth over trading Oubre for CP3 are losing it over moving an elite role player for one of the elite players of ALL TIME.

My wife never got over trading Oubre for an old man who is balding! LOL!

 

[Yuma]

Westbrook traded 5 times since he signed the contract he is on from 2018. Now might be bought out heading for a sixth team.

 

[AzStevenCal]

I honestly think people are so used to constantly looking at the future with this team that they can't see something great right in front of them in the here and now. Durant is still a top 5 player in the league and will likely still be a very good player for the rest of his deal as well.

I really disagree. It has nothing to do with Kevin Durant as a player and everything to do with Kevin Durant as a patient. Right now, this isn't a bad deal. But it's an incredibly risky deal and if it fails, it could well be one of the failures that haunts a franchise for years to come. And if KD is still a very good player for the rest of this deal, Ishbia will be hailed for his genius.

 

[puckhead]

2nd round picks in the nba. The ultimate way just saying I got something for him

2nd rounders have basically zero value

In the NHL, we just say "he got traded for a bag of pucks."

 

[AZCrazy]

He just better hold up. It would be like trading 4 first round picks for Tom Brady at this point.

 

[Yuma]

I really disagree. It has nothing to do with Kevin Durant as a player and everything to do with Kevin Durant as a patient. Right now, this isn't a bad deal. But it's an incredibly risky deal and if it fails, it could well be one of the failures that haunts a franchise for years to come. And if KD is still a very good player for the rest of this deal, Ishbia will be hailed for his genius.

KD's game is not about driving to the basket super quick, or jumping real high. I think he'll be OK when he comes back.

 

[Cheesebeef]

He just better hold up. It would be like trading 4 first round picks for Tom Brady at this point.

Except KD is still one of the best players in the league and Brady was garbage this year.

Otherwise, totally the same.

 

[Yuma]

Except KD is still one of the best players in the league and Brady was garbage this year.

Otherwise, totally the same.

When can you trade for a guy AVERAGING 30 points a game????

 

[Cheesebeef]

When can you trade for a guy AVERAGING 30 points a game????

AND 6 assists and 7 rebounds.

 

[Proximo]

He just better hold up. It would be like trading 4 first round picks for Tom Brady at this point.

Nah - that's too far.

Huge difference between Brady at 46 and Durant at 34.

Better comparison would be Aaron Rodgers

 

[Proximo]

When can you trade for a guy AVERAGING 30 points a game????

It's true it doesn't happen often.

But when that guy has been injured half of the last 2 seasons it makes it a lot more understandable.

 

[Chris_Sanders]

Okay I want to line up this Barkley and KD comparison.

Barkley: Career PER 24.5 with 177.2 win shares.

All star 11x
All NBA 1st team 5x
All NBA 2nd team 5x
NBA Rebounding Leader x1

Durant: Career PER 25.3 (26.5 this year) 161.1 Win Shares (he will blow by Barkley here)

NBA Champion 2x
FInals MVP 2x
League MVP 1x
All Star 13x
All NBA 1st team 6x
All NBA 2nd team 4x
NBA Scoring Champ 4x

He is much better than Barkley and he isn't remotely done.

 

[TJ]

For those hand wringing about future assets, Ayton could still be traded in the offseason.

 

[BirdGangThing]

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He just better hold up. It would be like trading 4 first round picks for Tom Brady at this point.

No, no it would not. That's ridiculous. KD is what? 3 or 4 years younger than Lebron and CP3? Brady was literally beating father time but ultimately succumbed, that's just not the case with KD. This type of non-founded hyperbole hurts my brain

 

[AzStevenCal]

KD's game is not about driving to the basket super quick, or jumping real high. I think he'll be OK when he comes back.

Missed my point. My concern has to do with Durant playing, not really with whether he'll play well. On the court, with the exception of last postseason, he's come back from that surgery almost as if he hasn't missed a beat. But he's missed more games the past 4 seasons than Anthony Davis has. He's missed 265 games over the past 9 seasons and his achilles injury, according to the studies I've read about, suggests his career will be shortened because of it and that he will miss a greater number of games along the way.

 

[Proximo]

Okay I want to line up this Barkley and KD comparison.

Barkley: Career PER 24.5 with 177.2 win shares.

All star 11x
All NBA 1st team 5x
All NBA 2nd team 5x
NBA Rebounding Leader x1

Durant: Career PER 25.3 (26.5 this year) 161.1 Win Shares (he will blow by Barkley here)

NBA Champion 2x
FInals MVP 2x
League MVP 1x
All Star 13x
All NBA 1st team 6x
All NBA 2nd team 4x
NBA Scoring Champ 4x

He is much better than Barkley and he isn't remotely done.

He is better than Barkley - but he is very much on the downside of his career. Barkley was in his prime.

Also when comparing stats - the 3 point shot and the way defense has changed to be far more lenient has skewed scoring dramatically.

 

[Proximo]

For those hand wringing about future assets, Ayton could still be traded in the offseason.

For the record I am not in favor of this - at least not right now. Got to see how he plays the rest of this season.

 

[Chris_Sanders]

I don't see how a guy posting above career averages across the board is on the downside

 

[Yuma]

For those hand wringing about future assets, Ayton could still be traded in the offseason.

If he would play like his last game more consistently, he is worth his contract! Just turn the corner Ayton! Jeez!

 

[CardsSunsDbacks]

He is better than Barkley - but he is very much on the downside of his career. Barkley was in his prime.

Also when comparing stats - the 3 point shot and the way defense has changed to be far more lenient has skewed scoring dramatically.

At the same time Durant is proven to be good enough to be the best player on a title winning team (twice proven) and Barkley wasn't.

Also what you explained in the 2nd part of your comment is just why we can expect KD to continue to be good for most if not all of his current contract.

 

[Yuma]

ESPN is blowing up on this trade! Nuggets keep coming out. They are going to have Sean Marks on soon. Best ESPN segment regarding Suns I have seen in a long while!

 

[Son of RedRage]

ESPN is blowing up on this trade! Nuggets keep coming out. They are going to have Sean Marks on soon. Best ESPN segment regarding Suns I have seen in a long while!

Not able to watch right now, what are they saying?

 

[BirdGangThing]

At the same time Durant is proven to be good enough to be the best player on a title winning team (twice proven) and Barkley wasn't.

Also what you explained in the 2nd part of your comment is just why we can expect KD to continue to be good for most if not all of his current contract.

To be fair, Barkley played when there was this one guy named Michael Jordan in the league... and he was pretty good

 

[CardsSunsDbacks]

To be fair, Barkley played when there was this one guy named Michael Jordan in the league... and he was pretty good

Where was MJ in 94 and 95. They lost before the finals both years.

 

[Yuma]

To be fair, Barkley played when there was this one guy named Michael Jordan in the league... and he was pretty good

Just like all those Heavy Weight boxers in the seventies who would have been the Champion if it weren't for a guy named Ali.