Eagles Asking "King's Ransom" For Nick Foles

[Mainstreet]

I don't know about you guys but I really like not having a quarterback going into the season. It is really thinking outside the box.

The Cardinals are going to run the Wildcat formation a lot this coming season.

 

[THESMEL]

Get the feeling the board don't like any QB? even Goldie Locks found the baby bear's is just right! SBMVP is too hot - Bradford, Bridgewater, Gabbert, all first round are too cold cousins is to high, top draft choices are still lost in damn woods- why they did not eat you - I do not know?

 

[BleedRed]

I'd be cool with Foles for our 2nd round pick this year, but no more then that.

 

[THESMEL]

Kings Ransom is not a 2nd round pick - the price of a starting QB - which there are less than 32 in the world - is 2 first round picks the last few years. 1st and a 4th for a broken Bradford most recently. draft is a crap shoot - I don't know where you guys get your pricing at but we got to pay up at least a first round pick for an nFL starter - and at least 2 first round picks for a chance- repeat chance at a top ten franchise QB. I think Foles is a middle of the league starter- and we need pay up and pay him to have him feel good about it- same with Bradford - Bridgewater,
If you want a cheapo chance at the roulette wheel - keep Gabbert and a rookie.

 

[Arz101]

If they are going to spend, spend on getting Luck and pray his shoulder is fine. It is but malpractice to give up a first rounder for Foles.

Give up honey badger, two first round picks for Luck.

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[moklerman]

I don't mind the price of a 2nd for Foles but it depends on what the Cardinals plan to do. If they intend to build the offense around Foles and commit to him for the next 3-5 years, then by all means, spend the pick and get your QB. But if they plan to hedge their bet somehow and just plug Foles into the situation and hope for the best and draft his replacement high in the draft, then I don't like it at all.

Foles isn't geared to perform well when he isn't supported by his coach/team. Maybe that's a knock on him but I think it's clear that's how he's wired. If the Cardinals just want him as a bridge and plan to get a rookie in there as soon as possible, then Foles is a mistake.

 

[DevonCardsFan]

I think the trade for Foles becomes alot more of a real option. The Dust is settling the Bills have moved up, no teams ahead of the Cards in the draft are out of the QB market. They are talking about adding Glennon hahahahahaha

Just to sell tickets and to get the Cards hype training going, I bet the Cards make a serious offer. Just to make a splash

 

[Lagerfilled]

Our 1st #15 and one of our 3rd for Foles and the Iggles #32 should get it done

 

[Solar7]

Our 1st #15 and one of our 3rd for Foles and the Iggles #32 should get it done

Gross. That sounds like Kolb all over again.

 

[DevonCardsFan]

Gross. That sounds like Kolb all over again.

The same guy who made the trade still is in charge. I can see the Cards doing it i desperation, the division made big moves Keim will do it juat to say he landed the Suberbowl MVP, rah rah rah.I see the writing on wall, they have to appease Fitz as well

 

[moklerman]

Offer the Eagles a 2nd or walk away. Foles would be good for the Cardinals but not at a ridiculous price. Eagles can keep him as a backup if they think he's worth more than a 1st and 3rd. Look at it this way. If the Eagles don't take the Cardinals' offer, they aren't going to get anything at all for Foles. So, from the Cardinals POV, unless they think Foles is the difference between the SB or bust THIS year, they'd be much better off signing him as a FA next year and taking a chance with TB, SB, AMc, etc.

 

[Lagerfilled]

Really??? You get your starting QB plus you still have a 1st, 2nd, & 3rd to draft OL, WR, and CB. And we’re not paying out the nose to move up for a rookie that won’t start for a year or more.

 

[Vacard]

If Foles is a FA, he isn’t coming here. When did a marque FA Qb came here?? Missed out of Manning, Cousins, and now Foles if he walks. We have to trade for him now. Extend him. Draft Kyle or Rudolph.

 

[Solar7]

Really??? You get your starting QB plus you still have a 1st, 2nd, & 3rd to draft OL, WR, and CB. And we’re not paying out the nose to move up for a rookie that won’t start for a year or more.

1. We still have to pay Foles for an extension.
2. I think Foles is more hot garbage than he is Super Bowl winning QB.
3. Only two QBs in NFL history have played in the Super Bowl for two teams. Foles is not Kurt Warner or Peyton Manning.

 

[thephoenixson28]

Is Cam Newton a option. Hahaha

 

[Solar7]

If Foles is a FA, he isn’t coming here. When did a marque FA Qb came here?? Missed out of Manning, Cousins, and now Foles if he walks. We have to trade for him now. Extend him. Draft Kyle or Rudolph.

Foles is not marquee. Foles has had four stints on 3 different teams. If he was marquee, he wouldn't have been cast aside by the Eagles, Rams, and Chiefs.

 

[Vacard]

Foles is not marquee. Foles has had four stints on 3 different teams. If he was marquee, he wouldn't have been cast aside by the Eagles, Rams, and Chiefs.

Oh please, he won a super bowl by out-slinging the best in the game in the biggest game ever. The Foles on those other teams is not the Foles that was on the Eagles. Like it or not, he’s marquee now and the Iggles know it. He’ll have weapons to work with. He’s not Kelvin freakin Kolb. Have him build on his success and we’ll see how good he is.

 

[Solar7]

Oh please, he won a super bowl by out-slinging the best in the game in the biggest game ever. The Foles on those other teams is not the Foles that was on the Eagles. Like it or not, he’s marquee now and the Iggles know it. He’ll have weapons to work with. He’s not Kelvin freakin Kolb. Have him build on his success and we’ll see how good he is.

One game. Frank Reich once led his team to the biggest comeback in playoff history. Did that make him a surefire starter for anyone else? No. Matt Flynn once threw for 5 TDs in a game.

Foles had an awesome performance, but he runs ridiculously hot and cold and hasn't been the answer for three different teams. Think of it this way - had I told you our plan at QB was to swap firsts and send a 3rd to the Eagles for Foles as recently as week 15 of last season, you'd have laughed at me.

 

[HGC]

Gross. That sounds like Kolb all over again.

Come on Foles has proven a lot more than Kolb ever had. I’d rather not give up high pick but the only similarities are the team we’d be acquiring him from.
Foles has proven he’s capabale of winning when the lights are the brightest. I couldn’t care less about his time under Fisher.

 

[Vacard]

One game. Frank Reich once led his team to the biggest comeback in playoff history. Did that make him a surefire starter for anyone else? No. Matt Flynn once threw for 5 TDs in a game.

Foles had an awesome performance, but he runs ridiculously hot and cold and hasn't been the answer for three different teams. Think of it this way - had I told you our plan at QB was to swap firsts and send a 3rd to the Eagles for Foles as recently as week 15 of last season, you'd have laughed at me.

Chip Kelly brought out the best in Foles, and the new coaching staff went back to what he did to bring out that Foles. He’s good when he wants to be, and better then Glennon, and McCarron.

What really gets me that Keim isn’t even talking to Keenum or Bridgewater but that’s for another thread smh.

 

[Solar7]

Come on Foles has proven a lot more than Kolb ever had. I’d rather not give up high pick but the only similarities are the team we’d be acquiring him from.
Foles has proven he’s capabale of winning when the lights are the brightest. I couldn’t care less about his time under Fisher.

Why get shipped off by 3 different teams if it's truly Fisher's fault? You really think three teams had him in their building and said "this guy is really good but let's find someone else?"

No doubt that he had an amazing Super Bowl and NFC Championship, but he struggled pretty badly in the final two games of the season, and the divisional round. I'm not paying the piper for a guy who had three great games, three poor-to-mediocre ones, and has bounced around between 4 contracts in 6 years.

 

[moklerman]

Why get shipped off by 3 different teams if it's truly Fisher's fault? You really think three teams had him in their building and said "this guy is really good but let's find someone else?"

No doubt that he had an amazing Super Bowl and NFC Championship, but he struggled pretty badly in the final two games of the season, and the divisional round. I'm not paying the piper for a guy who had three great games, three poor-to-mediocre ones, and has bounced around between 4 contracts in 6 years.

Don't you think it's more complex than just the number of teams he's been on, though? He was Reid's starter but Reid got canned. Chip started him and he had an incredible start and then came back to the pack. But, Kelly wasn't exactly a stable situation for a QB to be in. Then the Rams. KC wanted him and signed him and he performed well as their backup. But KC is in love with Mahomes and dumped the leading passer in the league for him so it's not like an indictment against Foles for not taking the job there. Philly took him as insurance and it paid off.

Foles has had a weird ride but I wouldn't agree that 3-4 teams have just given up on him so it proves he isn't a good player.

 

[Solar7]

Don't you think it's more complex than just the number of teams he's been on, though? He was Reid's starter but Reid got canned. Chip started him and he had an incredible start and then came back to the pack. But, Kelly wasn't exactly a stable situation for a QB to be in. Then the Rams. KC wanted him and signed him and he performed well as their backup. But KC is in love with Mahomes and dumped the leading passer in the league for him so it's not like an indictment against Foles for not taking the job there. Philly took him as insurance and it paid off.

Foles has had a weird ride but I wouldn't agree that 3-4 teams have just given up on him so it proves he isn't a good player.

Sure, maybe it's more complex, but we have a bunch of posters here who don't want Kirk Cousins because the Redskins didn't retain him, and Kirk has put together 3 seasons that far outperform Foles on a consistent basis. The guy hasn't even thrown for 3,000 yards in a season, and we're talking about giving up a bunch of draft capital and money to get him. Let's not pretend we're getting him on a backup's contract - any team that trades for him is going to have to give him a contract that floats up there in top 5 QB money. Thinking $24 million per, if not worse. For a guy who hasn't proven once in his career that he can even start more than 11 games before going to the bench.

 

[RON_IN_OC]

Chip Kelly brought out the best in Foles, and the new coaching staff went back to what he did to bring out that Foles. He’s good when he wants to be, and better then Glennon, and McCarron.

What really gets me that Keim isn’t even talking to Keenum or Bridgewater but that’s for another thread smh.

How do you know? It's your theory, with no proof, yet. I'm sure the Cards have a ranking list and are going down that list. They are ALL-IN for Cousins. If they make it known publicly, they are also courting other QB's, that hurts their chances with Kirk, IMO. They aren't the Vikings, who can dangle a Super Bowl ready roster and get away with making public comments about contacting Brees, etc. The Cards only shot is to play this close to the vest.

 

[moklerman]

Sure, maybe it's more complex, but we have a bunch of posters here who don't want Kirk Cousins because the Redskins didn't retain him, and Kirk has put together 3 seasons that far outperform Foles on a consistent basis. The guy hasn't even thrown for 3,000 yards in a season, and we're talking about giving up a bunch of draft capital and money to get him. Let's not pretend we're getting him on a backup's contract - any team that trades for him is going to have to give him a contract that floats up there in top 5 QB money. Thinking $24 million per, if not worse. For a guy who hasn't proven once in his career that he can even start more than 11 games before going to the bench.

Well, I don't agree with that line of thought either. Cousins is a very good QB and the Redskins are at least partly responsible for the contract failure to keep him. I think Cousins is partly to blame in that too and as good as he is, may not be worth those headaches.

But, I'm not sure how much Foles is going to command if he gets a new contract. It would have to be starter level money but I agree that he's got something to prove in terms of being a regular, reliable starter. How much did Keenum get? I think Foles would have to get at least that much and a little more.