jlove
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Given the talent expected to be in the draft and the mocks on the net right now, I think it's more liekly that we trade for a starting PF and draft another PG.
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Given the talent expected to be in the draft and the mocks on the net right now, I think it's more liekly that we trade for a starting PF and draft another PG.
That is the direction I would go because I would rather have a proven PF if we are going to keep Nash/Hill around. However, on the radio the Suns were still talking about drafting a big man. No mention was given to a PG.
I was just discussing this at work today. So far, I am wrong. He really has played well, though his defense is "as advertised". That can improve though as he gets healthier.
Brooks is definitely an upgrade over Dragic. My only concern is if they don't resign him and so it turns out to be a short term rental.
Brooks is definitely an upgrade over Dragic. My only concern is if they don't resign him and so it turns out to be a short term rental.
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Don't worry. I'm sure the Suns will sign him / match other offers once they get rid of Nash in the offseason.
Sarcasm, but I'd say there's a 50/50 chance it will happen.
Sarcasm, but I'd say there's a 50/50 chance it will happen.
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The Suns will not talk about drafting a PG until Nash is on his way out the door.
IMO, the Suns may try to package Lopez and a first for that young PF. If Nash gets traded, the Suns will also look to fill holes at PG and SG. Of course if the Suns trade Nash, what they get in return may determine in what order they fill these holes. The Suns may be able to find a SG in free agency.
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You must be comparing what Dragic has done with Houston to Brooks with us because Goran's stats were much worse than that for us this year. Yeah, he's been playing better with Houston - and I'm glad a different system and a fresh start has helped him - but what he's doing now isn't relevant to deciding how we fared in the trade, only what he did in the circumstances here matters.
In the Princeton offense Adelman runs the PG is not under near the pressure of a PG in our system - which appeared to be at the root of Dragic's problems.
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If Brooks can master the pick & roll, we'll be set fkr the future. Imagine getting Bosh by trading away Nash & Lopez to Miami.
Brooks, Bosh, Gortat would be a good start in rebuilding. Also get a lot of $$$ cap to sign some decent free agents.
Brooks, Bosh, Gortat would be a good start in rebuilding. Also get a lot of $$$ cap to sign some decent free agents.
I am not sure Miami would value Nash/Lopez as much as you do. Especially if they have to give up Bosh. In Bosh, they see a player that can play there for years (he is WAY better then Lopez). I think the conventional wisdom would be, plug in player X and Player Y with our core 3 and we wil always contend.
If they made that trade, they would be trading away Bosh for a temporary stint with Nash and end up with a terrible center in Lopez. It would be a one year experiment. After that, they would be stuck trying to fill that big man spot which is difficult in the NBA.
IMO, no way Miami even gives this a thought.
Maybe fans will hate them less with the removal of one of the big 3 and the addition of Nash.
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Nash in Miami would make me vomit. I'd love to see Nash win a ring. But in Miami? Ugh.
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3 players that need ball to be effective? LB, Wade and Nash? I say great chemistry!
the irony in it all is that what you saw lowry do yesterday is what brooks did all season last year, especially when they got martin and he didn't have to play with 3 offensively inept players in the starting lineup. Lowry's FG% was in the high 30s and low 20% from 3. he was not known for being a shooter, a good facilitator.
I think he's hit a hot streak right now, as a rockets fan it was so wierd to watch brooks pass more and kyle shoot more. I'd still give the edge to brooks because at the end of games he has that extra gear to break his defender down and create space. Being to many games, he's hit a TON of clutch shots.
The problem with him is that his confidence takes a hit real fast, a young player problem i guess. thats why he was so good as a starter, and played like **** when he came off the bench. with the suns its diff though ,he s perfect for the system. give him time, he's already gained most of his speed back since the injury, he was at least 2 steps slower at the beginning of the season and he missing his finishing touch which he will regain.
The problem with the rockets was not just his play, they knew they couldn't match his contract another team would offer so traded him. and regarding his contract situation they really played it low.
When a guy has such a good season at least give him his contract, especially when everyone else got it, and he just got injured. THat just screws with a person's head. he lost his starting job due to injury, couldn't make it back because lowry was playing better at the time. and his frustration and the team's horrible management led to this situation.
I would take him back in a second if i could. The rockets would not have beaten portland or even taken LA to 7 games without him.
Not a chance.
He had like 3 30 point games, and mostly 20+ point games that post season, just his 1st year getting playing time and starting for only 3 months.
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If Nash gets traded over the summer or whenever, he needs to end up back in Dallas. He is a natural fit there.
Brooks was wretched last night. Dragic really outmatched him straight up.
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Bosh isn't the one I think Miami would or will be looking to deal. With the way Miami has played this season, and the quite apparent lack of chemistry/cohesion between Wade and LBJ, it would be one of them that Miami should consider dealing away for a better piece or pieces to round out their team. With that, I think Miami would be more inclined to keep Wade since he's shown that he can lead a team to a championship. I knew from the start of LBJ's "Decision" and the words he said, "I'm going to Miami to LEAD them to a Championship". From teh get go, he was hell bent on the Heat being HIS team and not Wades team or a shared lead. That's the problems with them now. Plus I think Miami would be able to get more pieces in a trade for LBJ than for Wade.
jlove
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I think AB put a LOT of pressure on himself to perform well, to his detriment in last night's game. Dragic does what he does no matter the opponent, or prior team. Overall, Brooks will help the Suns more than Dragic did.
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Miami trading LBJ. Let me try to wrap my brain around that for a moment. In one sense, I could have never imagined that happening. On the other hand, I don't like him at all as a person. Yet, how could you NOT want to have LBJ?
We would never have what it would take to get him anyway.
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I would sell the farm to get LBJ and not look back.
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Lebron is by far the best player in the NBA, Miami would never deal him.
And on topic: Brooks isn't worth a first round pick itself let alone Dragic and a first round pick.
Nolan Smith, Brandon Knight, Kemba Walker are all going to be better than Brooks and at least one of them should be on the board even with Orlandos pick.
And on topic: Brooks isn't worth a first round pick itself let alone Dragic and a first round pick.
Nolan Smith, Brandon Knight, Kemba Walker are all going to be better than Brooks and at least one of them should be on the board even with Orlandos pick.
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Certainly not basketball, that's for sure.
Several good games from Brooks makes that the most likely scenario. I was just surprised how bad he was against his old team.
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Steve is hurting. How much better could we have expected it to get as the season wears on and he still leads the team in minutes per game?
The key word is now. We had to get a backup PG who could work his system, and we did. In the long run, I think the immediate acquisition of Brooks was a necessary and good move.
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Man thats crazy. Im here in Miami and this morning I was talking with my boy who is a Heat fan and discussing the team and almost toungue in cheek i said that EXACT same trade. Lopez and Nash for Bosh. lol
No way it will happen but just thought it was funny we had the same thought.
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LOL well that solves that one!
Wonder if Houston will let us have a do over?
I suppose you will say you were pointing this fact out, but my guess is your trying to paint a bigger picture here.
Listen if people are going to make the argument that the Brooks trade was bad, at least use your ONE trump card and say theres a chance we lose him for nothing after this year.
But anyone who knows ANYTHING about basketball would never say Dragic is better for this year, or even the next 3 years then Brooks for the Suns.
Or be upset about losing something like the 17th pick in the worst draft in a decade to make the trade lol
