Edge Asks to be Released (PFT)

[Pariah]

Do you think that Edge asking to be released is in the best interest of the team?

I'm all for players putting "team first," but that saying is a little misleading isn't it? There's balance, and for a guy HoFer like Edge to be relegated to 3rd string, I can't hold it against him to ask to go somewhere where he'll play.

 

[Shane]

I'm all for players putting "team first," but that saying is a little misleading isn't it? There's balance, and for a guy HoFer like Edge to be relegated to 3rd string, I can't hold it against him to ask to go somewhere where he'll play.

Where do you honestly feel he would get PT? He would likely get released and remain unsigned would be my guess.

 

[ASUCHRIS]

Where do you honestly feel he would get PT? He would likely get released and remain unsigned would be my guess.

With a team like Tampa, I am sure he would at least be in the rotation. Are you telling me the Broncos wouldn't love to have a guy like Edge in the backfield? He may not be a perfect fit for the one cut and go scheme but he is used to zone blocking and the alternative is of course Hillis.

 

[dreamcastrocks]

Only if he or his agent made a fuss about it after being told No. But that didnt happen. We are a full 3 weeks after the fact finally hearing about it and making a big deal out of it. A big deal out of it when the Team, Edge, or his evil agent are not making it a big deal like the media and fans are trying to make it.

There is no harm in asking for something.

Unless there are players in the locker room that have some of the same feelings that some fans are expressing.

I'm all for players putting "team first," but that saying is a little misleading isn't it? There's balance, and for a guy HoFer like Edge to be relegated to 3rd string, I can't hold it against him to ask to go somewhere where he'll play.

Maybe a little misleading. I wouldn't doubt it if there are players that confused, disappointed, even abandoned by Edge's actions. If his most important thing is to win, and we are winning, why would he want to leave? We have been on top of the division the entire year. His statements contradict each other.

 

[dreamcastrocks]

Where do you honestly feel he would get PT? He would likely get released and remain unsigned would be my guess.

The only place where he would get any PT is a team that isn't a winner. It's truly bizarre.

 

[ASUCHRIS]

The only place where he would get any PT is a team that isn't a winner. It's truly bizarre.

Wrong. I gave two examples of teams that are winners that currently have major RB issues. That's the issue more than whether a team is a winner or not.

 

[Chris_Sanders]

The only place where he would get any PT is a team that isn't a winner. It's truly bizarre.

Athletes don't care about winning as much as you do. The sooner fans understand that, the better. Sports are their job first and foremost. Ask any pro athlete and they will tell you that.

Clearly he takes pride in what he does. If your boss yanked all of your responsibilities, you might consider going somewhere else as well. He could just sit and collect a fat check for doing nothing, but he would rather play.

 

[Chris_Sanders]

And if it matters, I am currently rooting for JJ to step up because Edge and Hightower have been below average.

Oh and this is no different than Q asking to be traded during camp. I will root for Edge and Q to succeed as long as they are Cardinals.

 

[Pariah]

Where do you honestly feel he would get PT? He would likely get released and remain unsigned would be my guess.

Yes.

Denver
Tampa
New England
Kansas City

All have been forced to start at least their 3rd string back in recent weeks. And he'd be a clear #2 RN on many more teams.

 

[Cheesebeef]

Yes.

Denver
Tampa

i don't know about Denver, but I could see him splitting a little time with Dunn, although I'm not sure how much.

New England

I don't see it. The guy they've got right now has been running pretty well for them and he's younger. This season's pretty much a wash for NE anyway so if they've got a young guy who can already tote the rock, why would they take away his touches and stunt his development for Edge?

Kansas City

a team REALLY headed nowhere is going to go with youth over age. I wouldn't see any reason the Chiefs would pick Edge up.

All have been forced to start at least their 3rd string back in recent weeks. And he'd be a clear #2 RN on many more teams.

a clear #2? at what price? I mean, we've got pretty poor RB depth and he's the 3 guy here. Where do you think he'd be the clear #2?

 

[Pariah]

i don't know about Denver, but I could see him splitting a little time with Dunn, although I'm not sure how much.

Denver just started Payton Hillis (who? Exactly.) this past week and resigned tatum Bell who was selling cell phones at a mall. I can say with 99.99% certainty he would start in denver.

I don't see it. The guy they've got right now has been running pretty well for them and he's younger. This season's pretty much a wash for NE anyway so if they've got a young guy who can already tote the rock, why would they take away his touches and stunt his development for Edge?

BJGE was their 3rd or 4th guy. Yeah, he has been running pretty well, but when they got down to him --and only him--you don't think they would have jumped at the chance to have Edge suited up, too?

a team REALLY headed nowhere is going to go with youth over age. I wouldn't see any reason the Chiefs would pick Edge up.

Without LArry Johnson (which they were for a number of games) they were down to 2 guys, one of which Edwards is on record saying that he doesn't believe he's an everydown back (charles), and the other one who still didn't play much (name escapes me). Yeah, I think they would have signed Edge in heartbeat, too.

a clear #2? at what price? I mean, we've got pretty poor RB depth and he's the 3 guy here. Where do you think he'd be the clear #2?

Cinci
Cleveland
St Louis
and maybe Dallas now that Jones is out.

 

[azsouthendzone]

Do you guys remember when edge disappeared after the Minnesota game in Denny's final season? How rediculous was that? The Cards didn't even know where he was and he did that just because they fell behind early and Leinart ended up putting up rediculous numbers that day. This guy IS about Edge first and foremost. I think the saddest part of the situation is that this is a punishment by Whiz, a punishment well deserved. Denny should have nipped it but Denny had one foot and his belly hanging out the door. The fact this guy was me first wasn't a surprise though. Everyone knew it before he signed. The Cards used him to sell tickets and create buzz. He used the Cards to get one final payday. It is what it is. In the end we all lose because the Edge/ Hightower 1-2 punch was working to some extent. Now we have no running game, and I can't blame Whiz for it. How ironic will it be if JJ steps in and becomes the focal point and earns a new deal before this is all said and done?

 

[Cheesebeef]

Cinci

maybe, but why would a horrendous team playing for the future want to give any kind of time a back with no future? Only the 2003 Cardinals would do something like that... okay, I see your point here.

Cleveland

Cleveland's already got Edge's clone starting for them and they got their own Hightowerish guy with Harrison who just had a big game on Monday Night. And they're another team playing for the future.

St Louis

they just signed Jackson to a huge deal and have Pittman who was a fourth round pick as their back-up. again, you have a really bad team, playing for the future with two rbs in the stable already. Why sign Edge for the rest of the season?

and maybe Dallas now that Jones is out.

could be. they really have nothing behind Barber and are in the thick of the playoff race.

I also think you could add Pitt to what is IMO a very short list of teams that would take him as a 2 at this point. With Parker's injury woes and they're smash-mouth game and being in the running for the playoffs, that could be a team that would have interest in Edge as a backup.

Basically, I think Pitt, Dallas, Denver and Tampa would be interested in him as #2 - not exactly that many IMO. It's not just a matter of talent with RBs Edge's age. it's a matter of need for the team and where the team's headed. Because of that combination of factors, I think his options would be extremely limited and will be even more so in the off-season, just like Alexander.

 

[RedRob]

I think it comes down to this; both Edge and Q are good guys who work their arses off to be great players, if playing time, money, etc. aren't going their way they follow the advice of their agent who is a walking, talking douche bag.

The problem is these players don't realize the length of leash this guy has with their personal stock (call it goodwill in the business world).

HE is the one leaking the story, HE is the one playing with their perception. Yes, the ultimate responsibility lays upon the players' shoulders, however, as said I don't think they completely understand the ramifications of how this guy operates.

 

[Pariah]

Cheese, I think you missed the part where I was talking about injury to a lot of those top guys. For instance, 3 weeks ago (when edge asked to be traded/released) STL was contemplating having to start Travis Minor because Jackson was out and Pittman was banged up.

All I'm saying is that I don't blame Edge for wanting out after a sudden and deep demotion.

 

[82CardsGrad]

Cheese, I think you missed the part where I was talking about injury to a lot of those top guys. For instance, 3 weeks ago (when edge asked to be traded/released) STL was contemplating having to start Travis Minor because Jackson was out and Pittman was banged up.

All I'm saying is that I don't blame Edge for wanting out after a sudden and deep demotion.

When Matt was starting over Kurt, we never heard Warner bitching about it and demanding to be released...

Edge couldn't spell class if you spotted him the C, L and both SS's...

 

[Pariah]

When Matt was starting over Kurt, we never heard Warner bitching about it and demanding to be released...

Edge couldn't spell class if you spotted him the C, L and both SS's...

And Leinart is at the beginning rather than the end of his career; he'll get his shot. I'm also not defending any allegations of classlessness.

 

[82CardsGrad]

And Leinart is at the beginning rather than the end of his career; he'll get his shot. I'm also not defending any allegations of classlessness.

Pariah, my analogy was Edge to Warner... Leinart would need to be compared to Hightower I guess...

Yes, Leinart will get his shot - perhaps... And, like Leinart had his - Hightower is now being given his shot. If he poops the bed a la Matty, Edge would then be re-inserted, a la Kurt. Difference is, Kurt never cried when it happened to him...

 

[Cheesebeef]

Cheese, I think you missed the part where I was talking about injury to a lot of those top guys. For instance, 3 weeks ago (when edge asked to be traded/released) STL was contemplating having to start Travis Minor because Jackson was out and Pittman was banged up.

I didn't miss it. There aren't 10 day contracts in the NFL. Just cause players are banged up doesn't mean teams are going to sign Edge for the rest of the season, especially horrendous ones. Horrendous ones stay horrendous and gut it out until they're guys get back.

All I'm saying is that I don't blame Edge for wanting out after a sudden and deep demotion.

I don't blame him either. I just think reality's gonna slap him in the face HARD this off-season.

 

[Pariah]

Just cause players are banged up doesn't mean teams are going to sign Edge for the rest of the season, especially horrendous ones.

Tell that to Washington (alexander). Or, if you want a "horrendous" example, tell that to Cincinatti and Detroit (Benson and Rudi Johnson).

 

[joeshmo]

Unless there are players in the locker room that have some of the same feelings that some fans are expressing.

Doubtfull. If you dont believe every player in the lockerroom is treating this as a business then you are sorely mistaken. The fans priorites are way different then the players priorities.

Maybe a little misleading. I wouldn't doubt it if there are players that confused, disappointed, even abandoned by Edge's actions.

Thats why it took over 3 weeks to even hear even a rumor about it. Let me start this rebuttal with, "you are hurt by the ones you love the most". Keep that in mind when I say the players in that locker room didnt make a big deal about Boldin who is always called the heart and soul of the team, I find it very hard to believe they would have these feelings towards a guy with less emotional attachment to Edge if they didnt with Boldin. These are big boys who have a job and minding their business.

If his most important thing is to win, and we are winning, why would he want to leave? We have been on top of the division the entire year. His statements contradict each other.

Keep in mind when he asked we were not on a 3 game winning streak. 3+ weeks ago was a long time ago.

I am still wondering why this is a big deal 3+ weeks after the fact. How long did it take to get over the fact that Boldin asked to be traded not once but twice?

 

[joeshmo]

When Matt was starting over Kurt, we never heard Warner bitching about it and demanding to be released...

Kurt was without a doubt complaining about it every week in training camp and in preseason.

Every week talking about how the competition isnt fair enough, how he knows he is still a starter, even talked about maybe wanting to go play for another team after the preseason game he didnt get a single snap.

Kurt is just such a nice guy that when he complains he always gets the benefit of the doubt.

 

[joeshmo]

Athletes don't care about winning as much as you do. The sooner fans understand that, the better. Sports are their job first and foremost. Ask any pro athlete and they will tell you that.

Bingo.

Our priorites are way way different then players priorites.

 

[justAndy]

That's why I have a personalized jersey with MY nickname and # on it - players come and go, the team - and THIS fan remain.

 

[LoyaltyisaCurse]

the fact that you keep saying PROVEN leads me to believe he's still the same back he was, which leads me to believe you think he's still in his prime. Proven is immaterial considering he proved this year he wasn't what he was.

Whatever Proven means he has proven he gets it done period, may not be pretty but he has gotten it done here back to back 1200 for this team behind this line? You are entitled to your own opinion and mine is you don't bench a guy who has grinded it out for this team to start a rookie. Sorry the offense doesn't look better the last three games than it did the prior 10 even going back to last season. TH has show me nothing but a few good runs in 3 games and a bunch of losses or no gains, I don't believe he is ready to be an everydown back yet, IMO. You don't have to agree but you don't have to harp all over me because I am not all giddy about an average TH.

Cheese get off your high horse the offense was the highest scoring in the league most of this season, correct? Since TH has started whats happened? You see it your way as the right way, sorry disagree the offense looked way more fluid and scored more with Edge and with our D we need points.

uh do you really want me to answer this question? When Edge was starting, we averaged 28.57 ppg. Since Edge was benched, we've averaged: 29.67 ppg.



I just don't know how the O looked more fluid considering that since Edge has been benched we're averaging more yards per game passing, rushing, turning the ball over less, protecting Warner better and scoring more ppg. I also don't know how we scored more points. That's just flat out not true.

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