Edge quote

[moklerman]

I was one who thought Hightower needed to get more carries and that Edge should be in the Bettis(final season) role but this quote makes me think that Edge might not be able to handle the situation:
From Somers' article

"I don't fit the 'yes-man' mold," he said, "so it's going to always come down on me. I'm not going to be a yes man. They can sit me down for the rest of the year, it don't matter. I'll come out, go to work. I expected him (Tim) to have a big day. We knew we should have a big day running the ball, regardless of who was in there."

He sure seems to be taking some shots and since Hightower is a bit of a carbon copy in terms of running style, JJ might be a better compliment to him than Edge. If he's going to have this kind of attitude, I could care less about his resume' and say let the team move forward without him. He very much seems like he's more about "me" than "team".

 

[green machine]

I like when quotes are used without context to back an opinion.

Edge wants to play. That's fine.
He didn't play. That's fine too.

But anyone who doesn't realize any of our RBs would have had success against the Rams isn't thinking straight, as the Cards have torn them up on the ground with everyone the last few years.

 

[moklerman]

But anyone who doesn't realize any of our RBs would have had success against the Rams isn't thinking straight, as the Cards have torn them up on the ground with everyone the last few years.

I'm not debating the point made by Edge, just the decision and timing of it. He's essentially saying that Hightower didn't do anything that he wouldn't have done himself and that's a potshot as well as untrue. Edge may have had a good game but history shows that he wouldn't have had a long TD run and recent games have shown that he can't catch very well and has fumbled at critical times.

Implying that Hightower is a "yes man" and that's why he has the starting job seems a bit classless as well. I don't chalk up either of these statements by Edge as just having a desire to play. Prima donna is more like it.

But again, it's Edge's decision to air these frustrations in interviews that's the issue.

 

[RugbyMuffin]

I'm not debating the point made by Edge, just the decision and timing of it. He's essentially saying that Hightower didn't do anything that he wouldn't have done himself and that's a potshot as well as untrue. Edge may have had a good game but history shows that he wouldn't have had a long TD run and recent games have shown that he can't catch very well and has fumbled at critical times.

Implying that Hightower is a "yes man" and that's why he has the starting job seems a bit classless as well. I don't chalk up either of these statements by Edge as just having a desire to play. Prima donna is more like it.

But again, it's Edge's decision to air these frustrations in interviews that's the issue.

I have no problem with any of those statements, and think exactly the opposite about those quotes and what they mean.

I see no actions by Edge that deem him to be undermining the team. And to think he would come out and say that Hightower is better than himself is ridiculous. I haven't heard of any athlete in any sport say something like that.

There seems to be a lot of assumptions based on a few quotes. Hightower has had one good game.

I think the gross Edge bashing is getting over the top, especially for guy that has done a lot for this club.

 

[SoCal Cardfan]

I think the gross Edge bashing is getting over the top, especially for guy that has done a lot for this club.

What has Edge done here, that the stable of backs we have had since 88 didn't?

Sure, he had back to back 1,000+ seasons here, but his meager average compares similarly to all our previous backs, which suggests if any of them (Jones, Arrington, Shipp, Pittman Hearst etc.) had seen similar amounts of carries, the numbers would have been roughly the same.

Face it, for the scratch he gets to play here.. Edge has been a HUGE bust.

 

[BigRedRage]

I'm not debating the point made by Edge, just the decision and timing of it. He's essentially saying that Hightower didn't do anything that he wouldn't have done himself and that's a potshot as well as untrue. Edge may have had a good game but history shows that he wouldn't have had a long TD run and recent games have shown that he can't catch very well and has fumbled at critical times.

Implying that Hightower is a "yes man" and that's why he has the starting job seems a bit classless as well. I don't chalk up either of these statements by Edge as just having a desire to play. Prima donna is more like it.

But again, it's Edge's decision to air these frustrations in interviews that's the issue.

maybe edge should buy some gloves

 

[CardinalChris]

I got something totally different out of it. It sounds like Edge had a disagreement with the coaching staff or management and couldn't swallow his pride enough to agree to disagree. His punishment was not getting a single carry.

 

[Stout]

I like when quotes are used without context to back an opinion.

Edge wants to play. That's fine.
He didn't play. That's fine too.

But anyone who doesn't realize any of our RBs would have had success against the Rams isn't thinking straight, as the Cards have torn them up on the ground with everyone the last few years.

Um, sorry, but Edge wouldn't have had a ton of success and wouldn't have sniffed 100 yards. Several TH runs of over 10 yards would have been 3-4 yard gainers with the slower Edge. Edge also doesn't break that 30-yd TD run. Edge may have eked out a few more yards when getting hit in the backfield, but that's about it.

 

[joeshmo]

Read the thing multiple times and still trying to figure out where this so called Dis that is being talked about is coming from.

Sounds to me like Edge has confidence in our runningback stable. Sounds like he himself knows how good Hightower is.

Trying to find out how one could get that he was calling Hightower a "yes man". It wasnt even implied. All he did was imply that he didnt agree with the coaches and their scheme and how they use him and he let them know it.

People just like to read way to much into simple quotes to often. The simplest of answers is usually the right one. And the simpliest of answers is that Edge just isnt in touch with his skillset anymore and hasnt face reaility. Nothing less, nothing more. If Edge was dissing Hightower then Edge wouldnt have been the first one to meet Hightower on the sidelines to give him props. Hightower wouldnt have given Edge his game ball.

Mountians out of mole hills.

 

[jaguarpaw81]

I have no problem with any of those statements, and think exactly the opposite about those quotes and what they mean.

I see no actions by Edge that deem him to be undermining the team. And to think he would come out and say that Hightower is better than himself is ridiculous. I haven't heard of any athlete in any sport say something like that.

There seems to be a lot of assumptions based on a few quotes. Hightower has had one good game.

I think the gross Edge bashing is getting over the top, especially for guy that has done a lot for this club.

Yes, yes and yes.

 

[Bobcat]

CANCER


BOBCAT

 

[Jersey Girl]

Much ado about nothing.

 

[RedViper]

The way Edge acted on the sideline during the game was most telling in my opinion. He was genuinely happy for Tim and looked glad to be on a team that was finally dominating. He knows this team is going places and that we are going to need him to succeed. I think he's alright with that. Its got to be a lot better than being the starter on a team that is 1-8, as the number one back as in the Denny Green years.

 

[Shane]

"We knew we should have a big day running the ball, regardless of who was in there."

This is the quote that is concerning to me. That is demeaning the job that TH did and basically saying he himself would have had a big day as well had he been toting the rock. Which is complete bunk.

Edge would have had about 6o yards and no TD's in that game at best.

 

[bg7brd]

Read the thing multiple times and still trying to figure out where this so called Dis that is being talked about is coming from.

Sounds to me like Edge has confidence in our runningback stable. Sounds like he himself knows how good Hightower is.

Trying to find out how one could get that he was calling Hightower a "yes man". It wasnt even implied. All he did was imply that he didnt agree with the coaches and their scheme and how they use him and he let them know it.

People just like to read way to much into simple quotes to often. The simplest of answers is usually the right one. And the simpliest of answers is that Edge just isnt in touch with his skillset anymore and hasnt face reaility. Nothing less, nothing more. If Edge was dissing Hightower then Edge wouldnt have been the first one to meet Hightower on the sidelines to give him props. Hightower wouldnt have given Edge his game ball.

Mountians out of mole hills.

I couldn't agree more Joe!

 

[moklerman]

maybe edge should buy some gloves

I don't think Edge has to worry about fumbling anymore.

"I don't fit the 'yes-man' mold," he said, "so it's going to always come down on me. I'm not going to be a yes man. They can sit me down for the rest of the year, it don't matter. I'll come out, go to work.

Doesn't this read: I'm not going to do it their way or be a team player so I'll just collect my paycheck?

I'm sorry, but Edge isn't exhibiting professionalism or a desire to prove he's the better option IMO.

I was excited for Tim.

Tim had a great day but I'm going to take my job back.

It's not about me. Winning is all that matters.

Please refer to Bull Durham for further examples. I don't think anyone expects him to be happy about getting benched but he's just accelerating the process if you ask me. If he wants to be sour grapes about it I don't think Whis will hesitate to reduce his workload permanently.

 

[jaguarpaw81]

What has Edge done here, that the stable of backs we have had since 88 didn't?

Sure, he had back to back 1,000+ seasons here,

You just answered your own question.

but his meager average compares similarly to all our previous backs, which suggests if any of them (Jones, Arrington, Shipp, Pittman Hearst etc.) had seen similar amounts of carries, the numbers would have been roughly the same.

Except that for one reason or another none of them did equal his #'s. Aside from Arrington, all of the others had injury issues. Edge has been a complete workhorse and has yet to miss a game due to injury with us. If "ifs" and "buts" were candy and nuts...

Face it, for the scratch he gets to play here.. Edge has been a HUGE bust.

Debateable IMO.

 

[WildBB]

I was one who thought Hightower needed to get more carries and that Edge should be in the Bettis(final season) role but this quote makes me think that Edge might not be able to handle the situation:
From Somers' article
He sure seems to be taking some shots and since Hightower is a bit of a carbon copy in terms of running style, JJ might be a better compliment to him than Edge. If he's going to have this kind of attitude, I could care less about his resume' and say let the team move forward without him. He very much seems like he's more about "me" than "team".

He knew this time would come this year. The team is moving ahead and has no plans to retain him next season because of the contracts coming up next year. The org. needs to get Hightower experience and he's showing he's ready.

 

[RugbyMuffin]

Mountians out of mole hills.

SI's take on the situation:
http://www.fannation.com/truth_and_rumors/view/76456

 

[RugbyMuffin]

Except that for one reason or another none of them did equal his #'s. Aside from Arrington, all of the others had injury issues. Edge has been a complete workhorse and has yet to miss a game due to injury with us. If "ifs" and "buts" were candy and nuts...

I couldn't agree more.

 

[Linderbee]

"We knew we should have a big day running the ball, regardless of who was in there."

This is the quote that is concerning to me. That is demeaning the job that TH did and basically saying he himself would have had a big day as well had he been toting the rock. Which is complete bunk.

Edge would have had about 6o yards and no TD's in that game at best.

I almost agree 100%. I think Edge would have made that goal line TD when Hightower couldn't do it in...what...3 tries? Everyone always says about Edge...when you need 2, he'll get ya 5...when you need 5, he'll get you 2. In that case, we only needed 1/2. He'd have gotten over that line. mho, of course.

 

[Shane]

I almost agree 100%. I think Edge would have made that goal line TD when Hightower couldn't do it in...what...3 tries? Everyone always says about Edge...when you need 2, he'll get ya 5...when you need 5, he'll get you 2. In that case, we only needed 1/2. He'd have gotten over that line. mho, of course.

Disagree. There is a reason why TH was our short yardage and Goaline RB before Edge lost his starting job. Because the coaches could see he was better at it. TH was 11 for 11 in 3rd down and short situations and perfect at the goalline prior to that series. That was an anomaly if you look at the season as a whole.

 

[Linderbee]

Disagree. There is a reason why TH was our short yardage and Goaline RB before Edge lost his starting job. Because the coaches could see he was better at it. TH was 11 for 11 in 3rd down and short situations and perfect at the goalline prior to that series. That was an anomaly if you look at the season as a whole.

I wasn't trying to say that Hightower hasn't been fabulous at 3rd & short, or even goal line prior to that--I am just sayin', I think Edge would have made that TD. I just do; he'd have found a way to get across the goal line. Call it veteran experience.

 

[nashman]

Agree Linderbee! Edge would have scored as he would have squeezed through a crease somewhere its what he does. Some here just can't admit Edge can do anything better than the rookie. And we have had big running games against the Rams the past few years but thats not convenient to the TH crowd so it must be that he is just such a stud RB that he had a decent game. You guys are lying to yourselves if you wouldn't act out or have something to say at your job if you got screwed over and replaced with no explanation or no carries at all. Its a decision by Whiz that I said and think will cause issues, what do you know Edge quotes surfacing.

Regardless of what some people think about Hightower, he is a rookie and who knows what could happen. Edge is very much needed on this team still we don't need him all pissed off cursing the team in the media. Whiz needs to work it out with Edge because its a long season and you need more than one back (a rookie) to compete in this league.

 

[Shane]

Agree Linderbee! Edge would have scored as he would have squeezed through a crease somewhere its what he does. Some here just can't admit Edge can do anything better than the rookie. And we have had big running games against the Rams the past few years but thats not convenient to the TH crowd so it must be that he is just such a stud RB that he had a decent game. You guys are lying to yourselves if you wouldn't act out or have something to say at your job if you got screwed over and replaced with no explanation or no carries at all. Its a decision by Whiz that I said and think will cause issues, what do you know Edge quotes surfacing.

Regardless of what some people think about Hightower, he is a rookie and who knows what could happen. Edge is very much needed on this team still we don't need him all pissed off cursing the team in the media. Whiz needs to work it out with Edge because its a long season and you need more than one back (a rookie) to compete in this league.

Your whole basis and repeated attempts to dog TH because he is a rookie is so baseless its not even funny. Rookie RB's are one of the few position in the NFL where they can come right in and thrive and in fact be stars at the position from the get go.

This years entire rookie RB class is proving it and historu with rookie RB's proves. There are plethura of RB's who have been great since day 1. You repeated attempts to bash him because hes a rookie are just downright silly.